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Hi, here are some that can and can't be transmitted from Parrot to human, good thread, thanks.... Quote:Because our systems are gram opposite (one gram positive, one negative) most bacterial diseases and even most viruses can not pass from human to bird or vice versa. One exception that most everybody knows about is Salmonella, but it is very rare in birds. There are, as I found out to my chagrin, a few nasty bacteria that can “mutate” and cross from human to bird…I just happened to have a sinus infection with one of those and lost some birds to it. Un-Quote.http://www.quakerparrots.com/health/transmitted-diseases-parrots-humans/ To play it safe, "What happens in Your mouth, STAYS IN YOUR MOUTH" LOL The first one is from The Center for Disease http://www.cdc.gov/healthypets/animals/birds.htm http://www.quakerparrots.com/health/transmitted-diseases-parrots-humans/ http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=desiease+parrots+can+give+to+humans&ei=UTF-8&fr=moz35

Hi, not all Timneh's have Maroon tail feathers, some are gray and some are brownish. The coloring of your beautiful baby is normal.

The brightly-colored (pronounced kye-eek).is endemic to the Amazon Rainforest of northern Brazil and southern Venezuela, and the Guiana highlands. A adult caique is 23 cm or 9 inches in length. They weight around 150 to 175 grams or 5.3 - 6.2 oz. Their average expected lifespan is 30 years. Also called "Seven-Color Parrot" because of their highly defined black, green, yellow, orange, white and blue feathers. You have the White-headed snd Black-bellied Caique. The antics of a hand fed Caique are a constant source of amusement. They can be very trusting and can be taught to lay upside down in the palm of your hand. These outgoing energetic birds make great companions for households containing children.

We have two rescues, Joe and Tango, and neither one was allowed to fledge. They were both clipped early. Tango, at 11 years old, has poor back and wing muscle development. She has been un-clipped for over two years now and she lives in a house full of birds that fly constantly around her. We don't think she will ever fly. Joey, because of diet, is stunted. He is small for a CAG with extremely poor back and wing muscle development and his wings are thin and shorter than they should be. It has taken him over two years to have the desire or even attempt to fly. He flies in short hops, thirty feet or less, tail down with slight heavy breathing and he will now do this about 8-10 times a day. So, yes, diet (nutrients) play an important part in how, when and if a parrot flies. There can also be a fear factor involved. Joe's was fear of landing. Bless you and don't stop doing what you are doing.

My friend, Rome wasn't built in a day...and the cost of veggies and other foods for Luna will continue to rise. Just stick with it. It took Joe and Spock two years, Salsa and Tango were born in a vegetable patch (LOL)...Try a sugar snap pea. That gives them foraging and a healthy veggie.

E-coli can be transferred by mouth from human to parrot, it is only one of 37 bacteria that reside in our mouth that can harm our parrots, where it comes frome isn't what matters, it's where it ends up is all that counts!!! Like Nancy said, no big deal!!!

Thank you Janet, this is really wonderful. Jay

On this one page there are 10 references alone to "Don't Grab Beaks".Other Mistakes To Make So what else DON'T you do? You do not under ANY circumstance, use violence against the bird. If you do, even if you don't physically harm him, you will do permanent damage to your relationship with him -- like I said earlier, violence does not appear to be a routine flock behaviour, and your parrot simply will not understand your use of violence against him -- so odds are, he will never be able to trust you again. There is a lot of outdated and incorrect advice being given about biting parrots. People are often told to grab the bird's beak and shake it and yell NO!! This doesn't work for two reasons. First, we have now realized that grabbing a parrot's beak [what experts call "Beak Wrestling"], is considered to be play behaviour between parrots. Secondly, as mentioned before, parrots love the drama of a person yelling. So once again, in our effort to give negative feed-back to parrots, we have only succeeded in rewarding them. It also doesn't usually work to punish by putting the bird in its cage, because by the time you get him there he's probably completely forgotten the connection between biting you and being locked up. Obviously, he can't bite you again because you've removed him from your vicinity, but you haven't taught him anything about NOT BITING. http://www.pricelessparrots.com/parrot-biting.htm http://www.sbulanda.com/parrots-4.htm

Thank you Nancy, what ever you say, I was wrong again...

"He won't play with other containers.. not even laundry detergent, just fabric softener. Maybe he likes the smell.. I don't know." Please take it away from him and any other containers like it...They can be highly toxic and even kill!!!! No empty aspirin/medicine bottle's, no empty house cleaning bottles at all! Carpet cleaner is deadly as is candles and some foods.The glue on paper towel cardboard rolls, The list is unlimited......

Welcome......All he can...bogey needs 10 to 12 hours dark sleep a night..[quiet] HE can spend all the rest of the time out......

I found a number of vets in the Orlando area that are avian specialists. Here is just one...http://www.lakehowellanimalclinic.com/html/about.html Something is definitely upsetting Gracie. She has a lot of baggage. It could be the cage, her toys in the cage, where and what room the cage is located, it could be your boyfriend. Is there at least one wall on the side or the back of her cage? It could be a window that she looks out and sees a dog or people walking around that bother her. It could be your body soap or the soap you use to wash your clothes. What you need to do is spend quality time with Gracie. If you can take her into your bedroom with the lights dim, sit down on the bed with her and put her on the bed or on your knee and just talk softly to her, read her a book, make no quick motions. Do this once a day (at least) every day. Try moving her cage. Leave her cage door open and go about your normal routine. As you go by, say "Hi Gracie." "How are you doing Gracie?" "How's my baby?". Keep your hands out of her cage unless absolutely necessary. Pull up a chair and talk to her about whatever, she won't care what you are talking about, she just needs the attention. If you are feeding her sunflower seeds, stop for a while because it can make some parrots nervous. Keep a 1/2 cup of seeds and pellets in her cage at all times. Keep fresh veggies in the afternoon and limit fruit to a minimum; one grape or one bit of apple or pear the size of a grape. If you are giving her a lot of fruit, please stop. If you can, give her one unsalted almond or 1/2 unsalted walnut daily along with pine nuts and a pistachio or two (Unsalted). Stop all salt and sugar. Is there a lot of tension, loud noises, music or arguing in the house? This could be baggage from the previous home. Try not to make any reference to the previous owner, name etc. This is going to take time. Make sure you don't raise your voice to her, tell her NO!, etc. If she does something that you don't like, say "Gracie, I don't like that." or "Gracie, please stop" and walk away. If she regurgitates, Say "Thank you, I love you too" and walk away. If she is regurgitating, don't touch her anywhere other than the head and beak. Is she showing signs of mating? (bending head down, cute sounds, quivering, wings held slightly away from body, etc. This is going to take time. She is carrying a lot of baggage and I believe something is reminding her of her past. It can be color, smell, you or your boyfriend...have your boyfriend keep his distance for now and make no overt gestures. He can still talk to her but from a non-threatening distance with no gestures toward her. At this time, don't worry about socialization and keep her in the part of the house that is the center of attention. Please keep us informed. Thank you. Jay

That's how Spock and Salsa was..With all the screaming....

Thanks Dave, Dan and others, I went to CVS Pharmacy but the lady there gave me a strange look?

Gerrrrrrr-ryet.......

Good diet, work on feeding "Dark Green Leafy," Kale, dandelion, collard, etc... Sometimes to much supplements or vitamins can cause head twitching....

This is very common in many parrots especially when music is involved. Question? Are you giving your baby any vitamins or supplements?

Yes, the white one's sometimes we soak them in water for a bit....

Thank you Kimijean. The purpose of this thread was for every one to enjoy and maybe learn something new. A secondary reason was to let people who didn't know about things that might hurt our companions become aware of them. This thread has once again turned into who can "Run the fastest". It was meant to be fun. What this all boils down to, "Don't kiss you parrot on the mouth", that's simple, safe, by not kissing your bird isn't going to hurt any one, and you can wash your hands all you want.. So lets move on. Thank each and every one of you Greyt members......

Shay, Please don't ever grab your babies beak !! This is wrong in so many ways. Never apply any force or physical actions towards your Grey or any other parrot, not even lightly or in jest. A simple "I don't like that", or "Not nice" is plenty". Attempting to force or train your baby to bond or accept everyone equal is not normal to a Grey or even a human. You like me or else, doesn't work. I know your intelligent and already no what I'm saying.......

Oh yes, the Boogie, Getting down, dancing, Joe likes Mexican music, Salsa Opera, and Tango country western,[Elvira].....

The Clown or Monkey, wonderful entertaing parrots and beautiful to....

Hi, Maggie here...We told you about Joey saying okay...well, Joey surprised us today. It was getting close to dinner time and I was cooking some of their dinner items. Joey had been very persistent about wanting a good nut. I told him numerous times that I was making a good dinner and he would have to wait to which he replied "Okay" in a very put-upon tone. Then he said, "Papa's a good boy. Joe's a good boy. I love you. Want a good nut.". I replied (yet again) "Joe, dinner's almost ready. You are going to have to wait." His reply blew me away..."Okay, I'll wait..." in a very resigned tone of voice.

Janet and Ray couldn't be any more correct. In all the years that we have done re-homes and rescues, the first thing we tell the previous owner is "When you leave your bird here, it is goodbye. There is no reunions or visits once you give them up." This is one of the hardest things on a parrot; re-introducing to an original owner (this is bordering on unintentional abuse). The continued reinforcement of taking a parrot to the "scene of the crime" so to speak can be devastating, not only to the parrot but everyone involved. When we were surrogates and fledging other people's parrots, the hardest thing to do was not letting the parrot bond with us. After feeding or playtime, walking out of the room would bring tears because we loved them so much. This is what you are experiencing now. The best thing would not even take him back to that pet store, whether Raphael is there or not. Some parrots are affected strongly. It is time to move on, burn some bridges. Best to you, Jay and Maggie

Rescue Remedy is a holistic product. It is what's called an essential oil or an infusion which is sometimes applied or ingested or burned like incense. There are not too many people who practice this form of holistics. Dr. Edward Bach (deceased) is one of the original experimenters in this field. i haven't been able to figure out why he called himself a doctor since he only received a Bachelor's Degree in medicine, after which he became a bacteriologist and opened up shop to study and produce essential oils and infusions. Holistic use of herbs is far safer but still has to be researched onto what herbs are safe for our parrots. Chamomile is proven safe scientifically. In some cases music can work also and could be considered holistic LOL. Thanks Jay