Jayd

Poop!.........

Don't leave him alone now, and you have the stress of flying also.....

Keep him Flapping......Good Parront!!!!

Thanks Wingy.. DON'T use the Kaytee, take it back!! I lost bird 3 yr's ago, and now it's bad again!!!!!!It's not the same company...Thanks again Wingy....

Love those 'Tiels,, we still have 4......

Thanks, if you don't want to give him formula, if you want, you could try the squash or sweet potato (just boil until it is mush) add the organic baby applesauce, pears, baby food carrots, whatever you want and the peanut butter. Warm it under 110 degrees and give it to him warm. I would give this to him twice a day which is a normal smash/mash feeding schedule. If he accepts it good, then as you go along, you can add other vegetables and you can continue this. My opinion, there is a possibility that your bird wants to fly because it is natural for them to reduce food intake to cut down on the weight at that stage of their development. So encourage exercise as much as you can. I found this for record keeping http://www.birdsnways.com/wisdom/ww68e.htm Thanks, Jay

This does work!!!

Greetings! Thank you for joining the Grey Forums. What I suggest you do is get the ZuPreem Plus Baby Formula and mix it per instructions. Feed at 102 to 109 degrees once a day up to 60cc's. Start with 30-40cc's and do not overextend the crop. You'll have to decide whether to feed him morning, noon or night, whichever he likes the best. My preference is bedtime feeding. As he eats more and more, decrease the amount of formula over time. This could go on up to a year old or longer. Now my little preach; Abundant Feeding If a Grey does not feel there is enough available food for him to eat, he can develop a phobia or even die. At this stage of the game, keep a good seed mix (sunflowers are ok, no nuts in the shell) example Volkman, certain Kaytee's, Sunshine, etc. Get the simple mix without the fruit, just the seeds. The same thing with Pellets, I personally like ZuPreem Nut Blend. Fresh veggies even though he will hardly touch them. Make him a smash (cooked sweet potatoes with a bit of organic low sodium peanut butter and a bit of organic baby applesauce or pears) and you can even mix a little formula in that. Very little fruit. You can give him this for breakfast or dinner. Does he fly? Is he clipped? If he flys, he will need the extra protein and calories that the peanut butter and Seeds will provide. 15 weeks old is young! He has only been fledged for a few weeks. How many grams does he weigh? A trick we always did was give them the warm smash for breakfast starting with a 1/4 to 1/2 teaspoon of peanut butter. Once again, welcome and thanks. Jay

Enough !!!!!

No disrespect, but there are times a parront might need to towel a parrot. Acappella's descripction is the proper technique to use.

No problem! Our Greys, when they are fledging, go on a self-imposed diet, thinking that the lighter they are, the easier it will be to fly. This is all that it is. He is a good sized baby. Don't worry. Feed Arthur a little organic low sodium peanut butter. You can mix it right into his formula. A hand-fed Grey is like a Macaw and they need extra protein. He's going to try to drop one feeding on you, no problem. He could be 500 grams when he is a year old. Try smash, sweet potatoes (cooked) with organic peanut butter, organic baby applesauce or banana. This should be thicker than formula and served warm. You can feed him with a spoon or let him eat it out of the plate himself. Let me preach a little if you don't mind...you could be aware of this; Abundant Feeding. A baby Grey can develop a phobia about a lack of food. In your case, with Arthur wanting to eat all the time, this is really important. In his cage or wherever you keep his food bowls, keep extra seeds (sunflower seeds are okay right now but no peanuts in the shell, period!!) extra pellets, lots of veggies and fresh food but always remember to remove after 2-3 hours depending on the temperature. Keep more food than he will ever be able to eat at a time. He will waste most of it but he will be very happy and well-adjusted. Final note: increase his formula to 50-60 ml per feeding. He will love the Peanut Butter. Thank you for joining this Greyt Forum. I am sorry I didn't get to you sooner. It is the weekend and always very quiet. Thank you, Jay

Hi! It's the weekend and things are quiet around the weekend. I'm sorry I didn't see your post earlier. We are not vets but I advise that you see one as soon as possible. Bring your room temperature up to 80 to 82 degrees Fahrenheit and keep Waldo out of drafts. Do you hear any wet sounds in his breathing or is his nostrils moist or overly dry? Is he drinking water? If not, put some on your finger and rub it on his beak. Is he eating? Is he fluffed up? Is he sitting on his perch or on the bottom of the cage? How is his attitude to you and how is his general appearance? If Waldo will let you touch his neck and around his crop, do you feel anything besides smoothness? I know others will answer you but I would see a vet as soon as you can. One more question please, have you sprayed any cleaners, washed the windows or used carpet cleaner or air freshener lately? Have you used Teflon pans around him? How old is Mr. Waldo? Thank you, Jay

Moluccan, what beautiful birds....Story: About 3 years ago, a Asian lady and her husband came in to board their to Moluccan's [large bird] they had for years, her husband was sick. We never charge for helping some one, She brought the huge cage and toy and food, a couple times a week she would bring in fresh veggies for them and spend a hour os so with them. One day her husband got pretty sick and she said she wanted to have the euthanize[?] This was their belief, She was guaranteed a good home would be found for them, with some hesitance she agreed. They were re-homed together but she wouldn't accept the money. She donated it. Here's a photo of a Leadbeater [Major Mitchel] we had the honor of knowing for a while. A real tough raise. 15 day Macaw [raise 3 at once] Sun's To many to post, enjoy Jay Hawkhead

Another good choice, they are wonderful parrots. All parrots greet the morning with an enthusiastic "I'm alive!!!" and they also say good night to the sun when it goes down. Some are more enthusiastic than others. A special trait of Zon's and 'TOO's is if they feel they are not getting enough attention, they will use their well-developed lungs to let you know it. LOL. 'TOO's are more demanding in needing attention and affection than other parrots like Zons and Greys. Sometimes to the point of being obsessive. We have two 'TOO's and wouldn't give them up for anything. We also raised an Umbee and a Ledbetter and would have never traded that for the world. I have a hunch that a 'TOO will be your choice. Please remember, by getting a fledged baby, you do have some control over how loud they are. Good luck. You're on the right track. Thanks, Jay P. S. The 'TOO that I think you ought to get is a Red Palm, this has always been my dream to someday have one. http://www.avianweb.com/palmcockatoos.html http://www.avianweb.com/galahcockatoos.html

The Grey Forums is really going to Poop!!!!

This is a Greyt post by chezron, if I may I'd like to ad a little to it. If you can, try to give you parrot around 1hr a day,even on cloudy days, it's the UVB they need from the sun. You can also buy a UVB full spectrum light to use indoors for 4 to 8hrs a day.. http://www.zoomed.com/db/products/Search.php?SearchID=2&DatabaseID=2&Keywords=Lighting&Heading=Avian&Search.x=13&Search.y=16 Hypocalcemia most often affects captive Grey parrots, and not wild Grey parrots. This is due to a lack of natural sunshine, which prevents conversion of vitamin D to its active form, which, in turn, does not allow for adequate absorption of calcium. Vitamin D conversion via natural sunlight or full-spectrum lighting occurs in the skin and uropygial (preen) gland. In addition to the vitamin D converted within the skin, Grey parrots absorb the vitamin D in the oil produced by the preen gland, thus aiding in the absorption of calcium. Feeding a diet of calcium-rich foods, along with providing access to natural or full-spectrum lighting, are important factor in our Greys health. Something I learned from a very wise man was that our parrots only spend direct time in bright sun light two times a day, in the morning and at dusk. The rest of their day is spent in the foliage under the tree carpet..

A simple Were sorry doesn't express properly our deepest feelings...Thank you for seeking a answer Jay and Maggie

Janet, there was never any doubt that with you being the parront to Louie.[right-on] Thank you, with out seeing any photo's, I would say they're "Bonding", if there's a lot of wing flapping, then they're fighting..This is a common ritual amongst our Greys....Thanks Jay, photo's, yes yes yes!

Amali, when you see the parrot of your dream, your heart will cry out to you...To of my personal favorite are, Green-cheek conure and Half-moon conure, Their small and loving, this is just my opinion...There are so many wonderful parrots to choose from, we only know which one is right for us when we experance it first hand.... http://www.avianweb.com/greencheekconure.html Here's a trusted site, pick a bird[lol] http://www.avianweb.com/parrotspecies.htm

Thank you Acappella......

I'm so sorry. I didn't mean anything against your post or that you were wrong in any way. That's why I made sure to say "captive environment" and "non-aviary" environment. As you know, I don't post anything unless it can be researched or from personal experience and research. As we've all said, there's exceptions to every rule. The Mealy's that I've had after a while, their wild calls were reduced in volume. These were rescues. Once again, I'm so sorry. I've always respected your opinion and I always will, even if I disagree with it. I feel that there is a competition going on now and a good job of discrediting me has been done by some of the members, (not you). I don't even know why I post anymore. Thank you and once again, my apologies if I offended you. Sincerely, Jay

Works better for a cat. A couple of years ago, we had a "TOO that was given "Amitriptylline" because his owners didn't like the natural "TOO's nervousness, On the 5 day, he went to sleep for 2 days before dying. We have Buddy now, a Mitered conure, he was given drugs, he won't be around much longer, he's pretty bad off. When he came down from the drugs, he'd fling himself off the perch againest the cage till he bleed, all we could do is towel him till he calmed down, you should see the scars on my hands. No, starting a parrot on Prozac, or Amitriptylline is NOT a horrible thing, but it could be deadly.....

All parrots usually greet the sun and dusk, a captive Mealy Zon is far more quiet then one in the wild or keep in a aviary environment. Again, it's how you handle the situation. You would never know we have 2 'TOO'S...As a side note: Greywings always has and gives Greyt advice......

bc Maybe you should visit your vet and get a CBC's [complete blood tests] done. If theres any toys or to many toy around your baby's normal sleeping area you might want to move them........

Thank you, You correct, feathers will grow back...Problem is psychological issues can last for a life time. Quote"A bird that has once learned how to fly will not permanently lose its ability to fly after a clipping." Unquote.: The more times a parrot is clipped, the greater chance of muscle degeneration and fear of flying issues. I stick to what I post, Sometimes it's the Parront not the Parent that needs training. Research!!!!!Thanks so much.. Jay