CeasarsDad

Hi D.. I love Quakers too.. That are wonderful creatures.

Know what Fairy.. I really don't feel like there is much said about our soldiers... Then again, this country has gotten so liberal lately much of the talk about our soldiers is negative.. and that is so incredibly sad and mis-guided I could cry.. To think that there are people out there that actually think that if you appease the enemy they will just leave you alone is very sad and dangerous.. There is EVIL in the hearts of man. This is what many don't understand.. It's not Live and Let Live in the minds of man.. It's Live and Let DIE... I should join you Fairy in your political forums. I have LOTS to say on this topic..

judygram wrote: judy.. I know you are as honest as can be sweetie... and I know Talon is too.. :P

Listen to these two.. Judy and Talon.. They have over 1600 posts between them.. You don't believe for one second that they only post when they "can" do you.. :P :P That's the funniest thing I ever heard.. They post like most of us post.. Because we are addicted.. That's way... :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Not sure what you see so it's difficult to respond to you question.. I suppose if she fell on her beak it could have sort of Jammed like a person jams their finger.. Otherwise the beak itself is like finger nails.. It can't really get hurt.. It can break but you don't see any of that correct.. So maybe she jammed it and her "jaw" is sore.. It's possible..

Yes beccy.. Pits always come out..

Wash his face Tari.. You bad girl you.. :P :P

Ceasar gets a few grapes whenever we have them in the house.. Which is usually about once a week.. With 4 kids you can never have enough... He also loves cherries.. I would rather give him those...<br><br>Post edited by: CeasarsDad, at: 2007/07/03 00:18

Beccy.. I know where you got that signature line from... :P Bon Jovi.. Lost Highways... Lost Highway song... Hey hey, hey hey In my rearview mirror My life is getting clearer The sunset sighs and slowly disappears These trinkets once were treasure Life changes like the weather You grow up, grow old, or you hit the road 'round here So I drive (drive drive) Watching white lines passing by My plastic dashboard Jesus Waiting there to greet us Very nice.. :P<br><br>Post edited by: CeasarsDad, at: 2007/07/02 23:47

Yikes.. What kind or heartless people live among us.. Yeah, I know.. there are LOTS of heartless people breathing the same air that we do... I'm sorry to say.. :evil:

Hey Dan.. This would be a GREAT time to BLOG your babies life from beginning to forever in our BLOG section.. Why not give it a try.. I am sure everyone here would love to read about the daily adventures of your baby.. I know I sure would.. .

The Raptor thing is really a concern I think... You never see them and when you do you see them snatch your baby away... :(

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The trick is you have to handle them like this all the time.. Soon they will understand that you are not there to hurt them.. and they will be way more submissive when you do it.. They could still complain but I don't really know if complaining is really what they are doing. I think they are just saying.. HEY WATCH OUT FOR ME, I GET HURT EASY... Then of course you could have the situation of them saying.. "HEY I WORKED ON MY HAIR ALL DAY.. DON'T MESS IT UP" :P In any case I no one thing.. If you want your Grey to allow you to touch him you better be touching him all the time.. Otherwise you will have a Grey that is "off limits" to this kind of love...

Number 6.. That was awesome.. and what a technique.. :P :P

Boy did I miss you sweetie.. It's good to have you back.. This was a very heart felt message to me.. THANK YOU for telling me this.. Judy I was so sad that morning. I knew he was gonna die.. I could tell by the way he was breathing that he was dying.. I didn't want to put him down.. I held him for over an hour because i didn't want him to die alone in some box with paper towels. But watching him die like he did in my hands wasn't without it's toll on me.. It hurt so bad to see that little fella deal with dieing. Watching him struggle for life was just too much for this man to deal with.. and i mean it.. I hurt me really bad.. and I don't think I will ever forget those last seconds where he was just so uncomfortable... Then.. nothing.. God I could cry all over again right now... :( and I am happy I have these feelings so don't worry about me sweetie..

That's the beginning.. Keep reinforcing that phrase while introducing others..

OK.. You made me do it.. Here's a 1 minute video of how I handle Ceasar.. I want you to notice how he complains.. This is NORMAL.. but he never bites.. I also want you to notice when the dogs start barking and I look at them.. They shut up.. :P :P Have fun http://s166.photobucket.com/albums/u97/venuto/?action=view&current=ceasar_gets_beat_up.flv<br><br>Post edited by: CeasarsDad, at: 2007/07/01 21:12

Heather.. No, 18 months is still a baby.. I also want you to remember that the baby you were petting will grow up and become much more picky then he is now.. Just because he allows this now doesn't mean he will continue to allow it... Grey's change as they grow... Regarding that photo where you see my and Ceasar.. It just takes getting Harrison on his back one time and petting his face that he will realize it's comfortable.. In my case with Ceasar I just grab him by his body and turn him over.. He complains a bit but he never bites me.. I am lucky that way in the Ceasar has never bitten me or anyone in the house to the point where he draws blood.. I expose Ceasar to LOTS of interaction. I can remember last NEW YEAR.. We had a party at my house where I had like 70 people over.. Ceasar was on his play stand interacting with anyone that wanted to.. He WAS NOT hidden away so as to "keep him calm" Not here.. he has learned that people are not a threat.. and will step up on most anyone that asks him.. We take him to the local Petco all the time.. He comes in the store with us... and of course, steps up on all the store employees.. They love Ceasar and have commented many times that it's unusual for a Grey to be so calm.. I don't see it that way.. I see it where I am showing him there is NO threat.. He understands. I don't stop.. He is constantly interacting with anyone and everyone that comes into the house... I am very physical with Ceasar.. meaning that I grab him, touch him, hold him.. even if he complains.. I started doing this when I first got him home.. He complained like crazy then but now he realizes that I am not gonna hurt him.. It just takes persistence and daily interaction where you are "touching, petting and holding" let him complain... He will.. but after a few MONTHS of this he will realize that your touching and holding feels good and he won't be afraid anymore... Hope this helps.. You and others thinking about the same things you are..<br><br>Post edited by: CeasarsDad, at: 2007/07/01 20:18

Hi Dan.. there are no right and wrong answers here.. Just differences of opinions.. Why not do a search of clipping and see what you come up with.. There are lots of wing clipping thread you could pour over.. Then you can get additional info right here as I am sure some of your family members will be adding this own opinions..

Beccy, I think sometimes baby birds are thrown out of their nests by the mother or father because there is something wrong with it. It's cruel but this is nature. I believe this could have been the case with this little fella.. But as you say, I do believe I was meant to find him there and god knows I did everything I could to keep him going.. It was so so sad to hold him in those last seconds of his life.. He made a little sound, moved his head as if to swallow.. Then just stopped breathing. It was horrible to watch this and know the agony this poor little fella went through.

He is big, Talon.. Anytime a Grey gets to 500 grams he's a big one.. at 512 he's huge..

I don't know.. Maybe I am truly blessed.. Maybe God has some plan for me that includes rescuing helpless baby birds.. Because what happened today was truly an unbelievable event that I can't believe "JUST HAPPENED" What are the odds of one of us finding a baby bird lying on the concrete still alive.. Not very good right? Has it ever happened to anyone here? I am sure it must have but the odds are really not very good... Well, consider this.. Today was the THIRD TIME in my life that this happened.. Yeah.. three times.. It started with Hercules.. The European Starling that fell 10 feet onto hard concrete, right at my feet... Then there was the Cedar Waxwing that I found just seconds away from becoming cat food.. Xena is still alive and well.. She is just an absolute darling that I love so much I can't bear to stand that she will only live about 5 years.. 3 of them gone now.. That brings us to today.. Friends, today was as special a day as I could ever have imagined. It started just like any day does.. I would leave the house heading to see clients.. Only this day was slightly different.. Instead of visiting my first client I first decided to check on a friend that hasn't been feeling well .. It was just a simple visit.. Stop in, say hello, chat for awhile, then leave.. But it was nothing like a simple visit my friends. On the way back to my Van out of the corner of my eye.. and I mean just the very corner of my eye I spot this pink thing laying on the concrete of the parking lot.. It looked out of place.. It was about 10 feet away so I decided to check it out.. He was still breathing.. It was a baby European Starling He was laying there on his back.. His head back.. He was dying a horrible death.. There was NO WAY this baby was gonna die like this.. I was just not gonna allow it to die this way.. Not on my watch, not with me involved and not when I had a chance to save it... I picked him up and cuddled him.. He was near death.. I was near tears.. I felt helpless then I realized that as long as this baby was breathing I had a chance.. This would be the third time I got such a chance and I was gonna make the best of it.. I put the baby in a box with a rag.. I realized that he probably was starving to death and needed food and water FAST... I know what I need to feed him since I raised Hercules before but there were no pet stores around where I could buy the necessary supplies.. So the next best thing was the local Macdonald's. I ordered a hamburger and a bottle of water.. The rest of the day had me feeding this little thing bits of hamburger and drops of water.. He rode with me all day in my Van as I did as much work as I could given the situation.. When I finally got home I was able to get the necessary supplies and really fill his belly.. Now he is much better and is feeding every 2 or 3 hours.. Just like he should.. Well my incredible HIGH of that day ended in an incredible LOW.. This morning when I greeted this little fella is was very un-responsive. His breathing was very labored.. He was dying. He passed in my hands.. I cried like a baby. I had plans for this baby bird.. He was gonna have a life again.. but it wasn't gonna happen I guess.. So instead of dying on that hot concrete he died in my hands.. Comforted and loved.. I think I feel good about this.. I only had cell phone photos of him.. Here he is.. Everyone please look at him and remember his valiant battle to LIVE..

Boy is that zoom lens giving you new opportunities.. These were tough shooting conditions.. You were shooting though glass weren't you?

Melissa.. Your jokes are just so cool.. keep em coming.. :P