Jayd

With the exception of exchanging the word "Dumb" with "Not Wise", I agree with carlsjr! Today, the 1st, Spock has been gone for 1 year... And unless it's happened to you you'll never really know what it feels like. Don't be dumb, wear a harness out side.....................................................

I always appreciate some who backs me, please don't stop, thanks It's getting harder it seems as I get older....lol ..Jayd

Thank you JeffNOK, sorry I didn't explain myself clearly.. Thanks Jayd

I tried "Click" training, but my tongue got tired................

Your questions are very similar to what came first!the bird or the egg?, the best you can expect is a guesstimate. A Greys eye's go through a somewhat yellow color change twice, first starting at about 1 year old, the second and final at around 4 years old. Nancy's reply was very good, showing consideration and reality...Thanks Jayd

Hi, remember Larry's been around the block a few time already, he's both won and lost at love in the past. Yes it's normal, they have great senses and are very empathetical with a little hope thrown in for good measure. But please be patient, if Larry just becomes relaxed and you can see contentment in his features, no matter how long it takes it's worth it, Larry must come first, don't push him or try to make him into something he isn't. Larry's a older Grey and I've seen to many times when a Larry is push a little too far or a little too much is expected, we lose them all together. You've been given a chance to give Larry a second chance, not to become a vibrant youth who's recaptured his past, but a older gent who's content to sit on his perch, contemplating the universe around him, accepting a treat and winking at you saying thank you.

:cool: This young man speaks the truth.................................

Thanks, Salsa is going through the same thing right now................I find that Zon's and some other parrots are more tolerable of the rejection than Greys are....

HI, To regurge as has been said is "a offering" also as has been said "Let's get it on....YEEEEEAAAAHHH, let's geeet it on..This is bad in a human/Grey environment. [if I may, I'm speaking from scientific and personal research and experience] This action is "Foreplay", prelude to a impossible human/parrot action. If as humans we condone this action, praise it, in many case's it can lead to psychological problems and conditions of frustration. In cases where there is no notice of a problem that appears to be present, a lot of times it shows up in other ways. We blame this possible issue as something else. What to do if this happens, first, realize how much you're loved, 2nd, say "Thank you" and walk away promptly and return shortly as if nothing ever happened. Let me explain further. Our captive Grey's are farther from being wild then some might wish to claim. If we were to release any of our companions to their natural habitat, they wouldn't survive. Their actions are far more human-like then wild. Due to the imprinting from being born in human captivity, hand-fed and nurtured by human surrogate "parronts", this takes them farther away from the fact that they are birds and they feel more human-like. Why don't dogs and cats take on human tendencies and emotions like our Grey parrots do? Basically, it is the intelligence levels and sentient levels. (No disrespect to our furry and pawed friends) We can not use "Human" psychology to understand or compare their actions. The similarity is there but the reasons and thought patterns are not..... Thanks Jayd

How neat...Thank you, your country is so unique and beautiful...

How far is that from Hobbiton? Doesn't look to far?

:cool:Tango here! I don't fly much, but there always a sucker for the DOWN DRAFT... Right Salsa?:confused:

;)Let's start this journey by building trust...on a one to one basis. This works equally well for a fledgling or a bird that has been around the block a few times and carries a lot of baggage. Since this bird is older, he's ready to settle into a rather sedate, quiet life of enjoying his surroundings and contemplation. His only challenge right now is to be left alone, have food and a place to sleep with fingers the farthest thing from his mind. So, what we want to do is give him a place in the middle of our surroundings that he can be quiet and observant with no unexpected surprises. When anyone walks by, acknowledge him by saying "Hi Larry" or "How're you doing Larry?" Pull up a chair next to his cage, sit down with him and read him a quiet book out loud, show him pictures (even just the printed pages), sing him a quiet song (even if you can't sing, he won't care), and do this a couple of times a day. After a while, when you get ready to leave, touch the cage lightly and tell him "See you later, Larry" and "I'll be back" with no sudden motions or movements. If you have the cage door open or if he is out of the cage, this is even better. Rome wasn't built in a day...and it will take days, weeks or possibly months before you see a change. What you are not trying to do is to take this poor creature back to a fledgling who will be exuberant and do tricks and fly gayly around his home. :rolleyes: What you are trying to do is bring peace to this "older" Grey who wants nothing more in life than to sit, speak softly to...if he comes out of his cage and need to get him back in and he will not cooperate, use a towel, softly from the back. He will not hold this against you. We prefer and hope he will go in on his own. When it becomes possible, take him into the bedroom and with the lights dim with you and he on the bed, talk to him quietly and when he comes to you (Don't approach him), let him come to you and just talk to him. After time, put your hand out to him and let him come to you. Only touch his head and beak while talking to him. Once again please remember, we are not trying to raise and tame a youth but to give peace and relaxation to a Grey whose mind will be most active thinking about what an older Grey thinks about. We want to bring peace,comfort, relaxation, good food to this wonderful companion. If after all this time, you get a step up or a Hello and are able to see the reflection of enjoyment as he eats his food, standing on one leg with his belly feathers quivering, (content) you can ask for no more..you have succeeded in what needed to be done. I'll add more to this thread as we go along. I just mentioned in another post that our Greys can be extremely cage-territorial. This companion Larry definitely needs us to keep our fingers, hands and other body parts out of his cage until he tells us we are allowed to. Larry may never bond in the sense of a new bird bonding. But, you definitely can bring him to a state of companionship with a happy coexistence between you and him. ;)Thank you, my lovely wife Maggie typed this thread for me. Jay

Don't stick your finger in the cage...some Greys are extremely cage-territorial. As long as you stick your fingers in his cage and as long as you yell, he's getting a response out of you. He will continue to bite as long as you continue to stick your fingers in his cage and yell. Do not try to make physical contact while he is in his cage. Let him come out of the cage and approach him with treats and kind words. This can take time...a long time. Thanks Jayd

Our big birds like pitch black, but in the small bird room, they spook with out light. In the years past, with the multitude of parrots laying to fledging, we had to keep some nite light on, for safety. Reef tank, something I dearly miss, I had a hard time converting to led from my old lighting, but like you said, the Moon glow was awesome...... We dismantled our last one 3 years ago.........With sadness.................... [Yes Dan, as you would say, his writing style is "GreYt".] Thanks

Your a good mom, thank you.......

Both reply's were great, A Grey is capable of having more than one "First persons," let some time unfold. How high am I? A grey doesn't seek height for superiority, but to seek a advantage, and to be able to see better. Are the dogs the problem? Is there jealousy?............................................

Thank you very much, I enjoy your writing very much and I enjoyed your "Feeding cubes", thank you. The Jane from Eclectus Parrot.com's organic pellets, are a Rice based pellet, a little low in fat contents for our Greys. The supplements, Spirulina and Bee pollen we tend to stay away from, here's recent thread concerning this matter. No supplemant should ever be givin our Greys unless ordered by a vet. http://www.greyforums.net/forums/showthread.php?198628-Supplements-and-Additives...This post is on seeds etc. http://www.greyforums.net/forums/showthread.php?198606-Has-anyone-ever-heard-of-this-bird-food A Grey should have at the minimum 1/2 cup of sunflower seedless mix 24/7/365, explained in many posts on this forum. Another point is any fresh food should be removed after 2-3 hours. And if I may, a Grey needs no more than a couple of pieces of fruit every other day or so. As a side note, always cook sweet potatoes and yams, to be on the safe side............Thanks trancework

You know, every-time a companion is lost, it takes a bit of our heart, no mater whose companion it was.....................

Wingy couldn't be more correct, follow her advice.

You've been given some fantastic advice, by some good people.....

Hi, let the clip take care of it's self, don't trim, it will come in right in it's own time. Follow Judy's advice, Aloe Vera juice 3 times a week...

Very good thread, and all you say is very much the truth. In the wild, Greys and Amazon's pick up the language of tribes they live by. As a side note, a Grey can speak as many different languages as you can teach it. I can talk, can you fly?...........................

Thank you Dave, we need more threads like this from you...FYI's on how things are, need to knows......They need to be "STICKY'S", and maybe there own room. [FYI] Not questions or answers, but tid-bits of correct and accurate info......This is my opinion.

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