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Just when I thought I had seen everything Liath started to play a new game. She gets the edge of her water dish and wriggles it until she gets it out of the holder and tips it all over the cage. When it is empty she bashes it off the bars of the cage. Like the idiot I am, when I first saw her playing with the dish, I thought she was trying to have a bath in it so I got her a glass oven dish with water in and put it in the bottom of her cage. The little brat upended that too! I have replaced the newspaper in her cage 3 times today and mopped up all the mess. She now has her dish with a dribble of water in the bottom. At least she had 10 minutes ago when I left her. By now she has probably tipped it out again

We believe you Tracey, honest we do

That is a brilliant article. I wish I had had it when I got Oisin! Lots of it you guys had told me, but there is always room to learn more This might help me with Oisin who is not the alpha bird in our house. Thank you!

No, 2 corn plasters and a piece of string

Oh the poor baby. Hopefully she will settle down once you move and things stop being so frantic around her. I remember when I moved it was constant hustle for about a month before we left. I didnt have my greys then, but I can only imagine what must be going through Angies mind! Don't you wish she could understand how much you love her, and care about her? The poor little pet

It sounds to me like you are doing great. You just need to be sure to watch both of them all the time until you know you can trust them together. My guys still beak each other, and have little play fights, and then 2 seconds later they are busy grooming each other. So far neither of them have hurt the other, but I still watch them when they are out together just in case I wouldnt interfere unless they are actually hurting each other, and since they can both fly, believe me they will be quick to separate if they are getting hurt! Congratulations on your new baby, you will have double the fun and double the trouble

Hi folks, I am joining you again. I have been very very lazy lately. Just too much personal trauma going on to be even thinking about exercise or weight loss. I have lost 7 lbs since I was last here, but that was through not eating, stress and upset. Definitely not a healthy way to lose it But I have been given some good news and am ready to get back on track. I started walking again yesterday and my legs are complaining big time this morning!

Ooooowwwwwww! Ok we're sorry Joe... I feel the pain... I'm still too young for a mammogram so I havent felt it first hand, but that description was way too graphic.... {Feel-bad-00020080} (But I agree it MUST have been made by a man!)

Yes, I am in Westmeath. And you get the lovely weather in the Summer too. I should think about moving

No not this week... its bloody cold though... I spent the day bringing in turf Not my favourite job. Yes its a really incredible bird isnt it? The first time I saw it on Youtube I thought it was dubbed. But I have since seen it on TV and its the real deal!

danmcq wrote: And they fall for the charm EVERY time {Feel-good-0002006E}

Here is a little clip from the Life of birds... He really is an amazing man.

danmcq wrote: I know Dan, I thought you men were struggling, and I reckoned you needed some help. You see that's what women are best at, building up the self esteem of men, and helping them feel good

I think a couple of hours on his own just looking around the room he is to live in might actually be a good thing. If you were home the temptation to either take him out, or sit in front of him in adoration, would probably be too great! If I were you I would collect him early and leave him alone to absorb the sights and sounds for a while. (But only a couple of hours - not all day!)

Hi Mervyn, Long time no hear! There are lots of things you can do to keep him amused. When I get them a new toy, I introduce it to them in the cage first. I put it in the furthest corner so they can see it for a while without touching it. Then once they are used to it, I let them play with it ONLY on the sofa. That way it is interesting and they want it! Another idea would be trick training, you can do that on the kitchen table. You dont need a special stand or anything. One of my greys just love to sit on my chest and be cuddled all night long. She will push my hand if I stop stroking her to remind me to keep it up. The other one barely tolerates me and he plays with toys in the evening time. I am sure lots of other members will have ideas too! Siobhan

That's Gorgeous! Thank you so much!!! I am not sure if it was intended for me... but I am going to take it as such

Congratulations Judy, I have been watching over the past few days trying to guess when you might hit 10000, and I was banking on Thursday! As usual you have surpassed all expectations! You are amazing! Well done :woohoo: Siobhan

Liath had the best Easter ever this year. (OK so I know it is only her 2nd Easter but you know what I mean!) I had 12 people over for dinner and Liath wanted to help me prepare for it. When I was peeling the vegetables, Liath was sitting in the kitchen sink! She was in heaven, chucking pieces of carrot and turnip skin as far as her little beak could manage! Oh the joys of being a bird!

I am not sure if birds eyes are as sensitive as ours are, but can you imagine how sore a piece of chilli pepper must have been in poor Chloes eye? It would have burned like hell. Spence it might not have ended in her losing an eye or anything, but the poor bird must have been in agony, and thanks to you she is fine now. I think that deserves some Karma!

I hate to interrupt in what seems to the novice to be an excellent argument, but I think you have a few details a little messed up! Allow me to demonstrate with a short story..... A man was wandering around in a field, thinking about how good his wife had been to him and how fortunate he was to have her. He asked God, "Why did you make her so kind-hearted?" The Lord responded, "So you could love her, my son." "Why did you make her so good-looking?" "So you could love her, my son." "Why did you make her such a good cook?" "So you could love her, my son." The man thought about this. Then he said, "I don't mean to seem ungrateful or anything, but ... why did you make her so stupid?" "So she could love you, my son."

Welcome to this forum. There are lots of threads about older greys which you can read. In summary though, even with a baby Grey there is no guarantee that he will not be nippy, in fact with a 5 year old child I would say any grey will be nippy. A child is unpredictable to a Grey. A Grey is not a family bird, and you will have to keep your child away most likely!

I have never heard an eclectus talk that well! He is incredible! I love his cage too, its HUGE! Karma for Cash!

It is funny you should ask today of all days, as I had one of my greys clipped today. My younger grey (he will be 1 in July) had been causing me many problems. Door frames and archetraves have been destroyed. He gets up on top of the cage and refuses to step up. He lands on my little caiques cage and scares the little guy. And he is much more aggressive than my older grey, biting me every other day. With much deliberation, much reading and lots of discussions with my husband who owns the grey we decided to have him clipped. It was THE most traumatic day of the birds life. He hated being toweled, and he hated being in the car. He shook for ages afterwards. When I got him home I put him straight in his cage and left him alone for about an hour. Then I moved a chair beside him and drank a cup of tea talking to him. Then I took him out. He immediately tried to fly away and of course landed on the floor! I have taken him out of the cage for about 10 minutes each time, cuddled him and put him back several times this afternoon. I will keep you posted on how he gets on. But as you obviously already know this is a big decision and not one to be taken lightly! My grey hasnt had his first moult yet, so if we decide this isnt working, he will probably be flying again by the end of the Summer. But if you clip a baby, he won't fly for almost a year. I am still not sure we made the right decision

Hi Amber, I agree with Tracey (lovemygreys), I think you need to go back to the beginning and teach step up again. It sounds like Tuki is being pretty well behaved outside the cage, but has lost some trust in you for some reason. So you need to start again and build the trust back up. I wish you luck with her! Siobhan

I have one who cuddles and one who doesnt. My almost 2 year old will do anything to get me to cuddle her - Laurie's velcro bird is a good description of her! My almost 1 year old Oisin is independant and is happier to sit on a perch and hold conversations in baby language. (His speech at the moment consists of lots of kisses, Hello buddy and gabbling!) Sometimes I feel sorry for Oisin because I think he isnt getting the same attention as Liath, but then again he wont tolerate the cuddles so there isnt a lot I can do about it