Jayd

Thanks for the photo's. Here in the US, no bands are required, importing birds is illegal. Keep us all informed, Thanks for all the great reply's... Jayd

Thank you so much. if I may, corn shouldn't be given to offten and both butter beans [any large beans] should be fully cooked] corn should also be cooked and feed once or twice a week. For the afternoon, put fresh chunks of Carrot, Broccoli, Zucchini, a Green Leafy Veggie,[kale, turnip greens, carrot tops, dandelion greens, mustard greens] what ever you can get, and change daily. Fruit, once or twice a week.His weight should stay around where he is, not to many nut's, fruits, more veggies to keep it there.Try some Chick Peas [garbanzo beans] Mung beans, [cooked] served room temp. Feeding should be: Veggies the most, then legumes and grains,[brown rice] pellets and seeds at all times in his cage, and a little fruit. Eggs extra hard boiled,[shell and all] 1/2 egg twice a week, plus all the other good foods. Ok people, Tell Diego what your Zon's eat!!!!! Jayd

I hope Dan can find his missing thread......Another site to check out.....http://www.exoticpetvet.net/avian/uropygial.html The gland secretion is complex and consists of a combination of extruded cells, ester waxes, fatty acids, fat and sudanophilic secretory granules.1,2 The secretion is spread over the feathers during the act of preening. Waterproofing is considered to be one function of the secretion (although it is not necessary for it), and another function is the suppression of the growth of organisms on the skin. The secretion helps keep the feathers, beak, and scales supple. The secretion from the uropygial gland also contains vitamin D precursors that are also spread over the feathers by preening. With exposure to the ultraviolet portion of sunlight, the secretions are converted to an active form, vitamin D3, which is then ingested with subsequent preening.3 Thanks Jay Dave is also very knowledgeable about this subject!!!

tarm, I don't remember the post exactly, I'll go over it tomorrow, a Grey has oil gland near their their tail that they use to preen their fathers, this oil gets on their skin and promotes D3 absorption. Tomorrow afternoon I'll post some links for you. I always admire a person who does research before a purchase....Thank you Jayd

I don't agree with Craftsmasters statement about amount of times my birds eat a day. My statement, *there's always something missing!!* [if you'd care to reread it] is clearly about here "Exerts" I feel like her posts are clips from a book, which they are, or like a form letter, I've asked her what kind of parrots she owned, a couple of times, receiving no reply. I gave her a name of my favorite author who has a different style of writing. At no point did I criticize or make a negative statement about her feelings about food! Any one on this forum, or any one that knows me, knows my feelings about "Fresh Foods" and cooked foods. The rest of your post about wild bird eating habits was really good and informative to those members who are unaware of it, my reply had nothing to do with that. My last statement "Real people" was honest and to the point, most of us on this forum want answer from the heart, if we wanted answers from a book we could by the book, I have her book, and it's very good!!! Sir, your considered by most all of us here,to be the "Resident Expert", I for one look up to you, and I'm truly sorry I have to disagree with you on this... Jayd

Still praying....be back on-line in about an hour. We love you Maggie and Jay

If we could come to San Diego we would right now all we can do is pray for you...

;):)Can't Wait...:)

Bless you, your doing such a wonderful job, I'm so proud for you...The head bobing and noise Deigo is making is baby feeding, I think Diego was weaned to early, he looks good....What are you feeding him? Jayd

To me personally 12 weeks is to early to stop the formula, Grey's drink very little water, the also get it from their food etc. You might want to read this thread, I've been helping them with a similar problem with their baby...http://www.greyforums.net/forums/showthread.php?190531-Can-anyone-help-me-to-understand-what-Diego-is-trying-to-say-to-me Diego is a Amazon, doesn't matter...Jayd

God be with you, we pray....Maggie and I are both crying with you our friend.....

Here's the other thread I was looking for!!!http://www.greyforums.net/forums/showthread.php?188081-Calcium-Food-or-Sun&highlight=calcium... Danmcq is knowledgeable on this subject.....Jayd

A lot of the contributions come from a 2 CAS's. The basic differences between Spock's diet and the basic diet is Spock get's additional carb's, just the same as the Zon's, less fat and hyacinths Macaws, more seeds, less protein and Grey's requirements for higher fat and protiein, the list goes on... ...According to some Dr's, certain foods draw out or make better use of their nutrients when combined with certain other foods, that's why I say, "Not how much, or how many different ingredient are combined, but what the ingredient are combined with and in what percentage" ..... ThanksJayd

Hows the "Formerly Known as Madison" now known as " Madden"????

Hows Diego?..................................................

Beautiful baby and really nice stand....

Dan, You've been following Spock's progress since the start. I'm sure many of the new members are not even aware of who Spock is, or the access I have to many different types of birds. The research we've been doing is "Grass Root", It's more of "What's in the food or Veggies or fruit, how much of what, what has the most of what vitamin, how much and how many Amino acids etc. This you will not find, Quote:I really look forward to following this as the results come in on a per species, mix, quantity basis.Un-Quote..I'm not doing "Per Bird" I'm doing the food our birds eat! Forgive me, but I thought you were aware all along that I was working in conjunction with my Vet's. A example: Sweet potato's have all most the same amount of "Beta-carotene's". Beta-carotene is a non-toxic form of a precursor of vitamin A. When ingested, the body turns what it needs into vitamin A and the rest passes out of the body unchanged. The carotenoids are found in several plant pigments. My findings come from many valid reliably sources, Mainly from Vet's, dietitians, and Study and research, and also my personal feelings. As some of you might be aware, Spock has Hypoglycemia, Whith the help of others, I came up with this diet, and it has helped give Spock a more normal diet. If anyone is interested in this, look up, Spock updates etc. To repeat myself, This works for me! I'm not pushing this off as a Law, or you Must feed this way, and I won't ever say: If you want your bird to be healthy, use my Mash! like others do...It's my opinion from my findings..... Thanks Jayd

Hello again. Quote: when I spray him.... (something he hates) he continues to pull at his feathers when they are wet un-quote. This could be normal preening, most birds do this after bathing. Your Vet visit is grey't. Your doing nothing wrong!!!!!I can only praise you, your a good Parront. Keep doing what your doing, I wish you all the best, Prays to you and yours....

As a side note, not everyone has the time to prepare a Smash or Mash, but still want what is best for their companion. With that said, Harrison's, TOP'S, Zupreem, and a few others, with fresh Veggies, Fruit's, etc, will also contribute to a long and healthy life...There's a lot more then just food to maintain our Fid's.... Jayd

tarm? Have you seen Welcome, PROSPECTIVE and NEW GREY Owner's.. this thread: http://www.greyforums.net/forums/showthread.php?190489-Welcome-PROSPECTIVE-and-NEW-GREY-Owner-s.. http://www.greyforums.net/forums/sho...lighting-Again Jayd

My area of study since late last year has been Parrot food and nutrition. We have worked with 5 avian vet, plus a number of C.A.S. [A book is in the works] The one main thing of importance we learned was, "Not how much, or how many different ingredient are combined, but what the ingredient are combined With and in what percentage"...The following receipt gives "our fids" What they need for a completely nutritious diet. As you can see both pellets and seeds are included, but in a small amount, nuts also being of great importance, supplying EFA's [Essential Fatty Acids]. [if my fids would eat Harrison's I'd include it and be really happy] We remove or add ingredient for the difference bird species. ie: 'Tiels less fruit, Zon's less fat etc. The seeds we use are "Tops, Totally Organic's" [which I'll make a report about at a later date]. The basis behind what this diet is composed of is that each ingredient works with each other to bring out the best of all ingredients. To repeat myself, This works for me". You can make a thread in "Bird Food". http://www.greyforums.net/forums/showthread.php?190462-We-Feed-Our-Fid-s!!!-Update

This is truly wonderful, and I mean it from my heart. I've PMed her, and asked her to please start posting on the forum again, she is truly missed. Judy, when you see her in person, let her know she is missed by many people, including those that don't know her. Sincerely Jay d

A must read!!! Amazon Parrot Foot Care WHAT IS AMAZON PARROT FOOT NECROSIS The word necrosis alone means "dead". In this case dead skin tissue. Fixed it, Thanks

Wonderful..................................