Char

You can also get sheets of plexiglass from Lowe's or Home Depot. It is more expensive but is even easier to clean than the plastic office chair stuff. I mean it is EASY. It also looks better on the foor than the other stuff. Like I said it is a little more expensive but would last forever. It can also be but on the walls and still look good. To attach to wall you would just drill holes and screw into the wall to attach.

Yes, molting will cause an attitude. If I were you I would do some step up excercises with her. Now that the honeymoon stage is over she will be testing you to see what she can get by with. Work with her away from the cage. Start by putting her on the floor and ask her to step up. Just keep doing the step up over for about 5 or 10 mins. This will reinforce to her that you are in charge. You will get conflicting opinions about this but my opinion is that if you ask her to step up and she bites then you walk away..she will bite everytime she wants you to go away. You will in effect train her (or someone else has) to bite when she does not want to be bothered. Birds basically bite for 2 reasons..out of fear and because they have been trained to bite as in if you return a bird to it's cage (beloved home) when it bites, it will bite you in order to be returned to the cage. There is a lot of info on here about biting. Do a forum search and some good info will go into more detail. Greys do not like change and it is going to take her a long time to settle in and really be comfortable with you. Give her some space, time, patience and lots of love and you will be rewarded. My husband and I have been seperated for 10 months and we recently reconciled. He adores Whisper and lavishes treats on her and talks to her all the time. She will take the treats but will not step up for him. When he asks she just looks at him. If he persists then she bites him. It has been 3 weeks and he still cannot touch her. He is hurt and impatient but I keep telling him it is going to take a long time. She is bonded to me just as your Grey was bonded to the previous owner. It is going to take her some time to get over her previous bond and bond with you. Also the height dominace thing is not so much an issue if at all with Greys as it is with other parrots. Post edited by: Char, at: 2009/09/17 19:29 Post edited by: Char, at: 2009/09/17 19:31<br><br>Post edited by: Char, at: 2009/09/17 19:33

I agree with the others..that cage is much to small for a Grey.

Have you thought about leaving her food outside the cage on the day you want to take her to the vet? When she comes out to eat..close the cage and don't let her back in. It will be much easier to towel her or get her to step up on a perch if she is on top of the cage. Have you tried to lure her with an almond. Mine will only respond to strangers if they have an almond. No other treat works but she will take an almond from anyone.

I thought I would give you guys an update on my baby DYH. Tango is now 13 weeks old. I have dropped the morning feeding and the evening feeding is very small and I will soon be dropping that as he is eating like a pig and gaining weight. He literally eats every waking moment. :lol: He and Whisper seem to be getting used to each other. I can have them about 18 inches apart without anyone getting upset. The one time I put them down together on a neutral spot, Tango went after Whisper aggressively and scared her. I backed off on putting them down together for now but I am going to try again this weekend. Tango has been to the vet and pronounced healthy. He is so much more active than Whisper was when I first got her at 16 weeks. He climbs all over his cage, hangs upside down and swings from his toys. Whisper was a lot more cautious when she was young. He absolutely loves toys. It is so much fun to give him something new and see him enjoy it. He is also bigger than Whisper but then she is a petite little girl and he is a big old boy. She weighs 388 and he weighs 406 but looks even bigger. I will try to post some pics this weekend. Some of you might have noticed that I have not been posting as much recently. Handfeeding the baby and generally taking care of the 2 of them has really kept me busy. Birds on formula are very messy poopers! The clean up is non-stop.:laugh: Post edited by: Char, at: 2009/09/17 14:29<br><br>Post edited by: Char, at: 2009/09/17 14:33

What a beauty she is!

#11 Don't ask your Grey for help when you play Scrabble. Even if they know the words. Those wooden letters last about 3 seconds in their beak.:laugh:<br><br>Post edited by: Char, at: 2009/09/17 14:01

I am soooo sorry that you have lost your baby. You did everything you could and she is in God's hands now.

Greys like soft wood such as pine. Please do not attempt to trim the beak yourself. The results could be disasterous. Have you tried tug of war games with wood toys to get him interested in chewing? Entice him to climb around the cage. He will use his beak for that. I have had the same kind of problem with my Whisper but she has just recently started chewing more and it is better.

That is wonderful news and a happy ending. Karma to you for never giving up.

You said you were keeping the cage warm. If you were heating the cage in some way it is possible the baby might have over heated. I hope everything works out.

Perfectly normal.

That is just too funny.

Praying for Macey's quick recovery.

Whisper does not dunk her pellets but it is quite common. You have to be extra diligent with dunkers with changing the water or use a water bottle because the food in the water will grow bacteria. If not already you should put the water bowl as far away from the food as possible to discourage it.<br><br>Post edited by: Char, at: 2009/09/13 15:57

I am so glad to hear that Lilo went to such a wonderful parront as you. This truly is a happy ending. I am sure that if anyone make it work you can.

Teaka wrote: The same reason that if you give a toddler a spoon he will start banging on something with it. They like the cause and effect. You know.. I bang this and this noise happens. Hey I made that sound happen.

That's fantastic and so exciting. I think we all go through that "when are they going to talk" phase and then the flood gates open and you can't shut them up. Right now Whisper is in the other room yak, yak, yak all by herself.

Funny this thread should come up tonight. I was just thinking earlier about how special my little bundle of feathers is to me. I love the way she will sit on my shoulder and bend her head down and I can bury my face in her feathers and snuggle her. Lately she seems to want me to kiss her on the back of the neck. When she looks at me there is just something in her eyes, I don't know how to describe it, an understanding and intelligence I have never experienced with another animal, she is truly special.

That was just Chimay doing his mind control thing through your dreams. They are psychic you know.:laugh:

How long have you had Chiku?

I have never used any kind of treat as positive reinforcement. Praise has worked well for Whisper and I. I respond to negative behavior with a stern "look" and say "no" and if that does not work a time out happens. I don't agree with not giving them negative responses. They have the intelligence of a small child and I believe respond much the same way as small children. Sometimes it is just necessary to remove her from a situation that she is misbehaving in. For instance if she won't leave my keyboard alone I just remove her. This has worked for me. I must be doing something right or just be extremely blessed with one of the sweetest and most well behaved greys alive.

I must have missed a previous post somewhere. Why are you pulling out the blood feather? Was it broken? Did Phoebe have an accident?

That is hilarious!:lol:

Congrats on your Hahns. From what I have read they are very friendly and outgoing birds, Enjoy!