Ronda477

Jeez oh pete lol I don't know you guys! She has been through hell and back to get to us to begin with and that's why I have kind of let things slide a bit with her. I was afraid like everyone said that she will remember all the trauma for awhile and that I should just be patient with her, but I don't mind trying, I just don't want to push her further. And she isn't losing weight cause I know she is eating her seeds and pellets, but as for the extra's like people food she just shreds. And yes Joe I have her food out at all times should I not? In her cage she has a bowl with her pellets and her seed along with her water, than on top of her cage/playstand she has water and her seeds and I put people food (veggies, fruits) on top or sometimes in the cage as well. See I did not get the great part of picking her out at the breeders and the bonding, or getting her as young as some people did on here and I think that has had a real disadvantage with us. Thank you all for helping now is just getting the nerve up to take the bites lol.

lol I have tried this too watchout you can ask about our bedroom experience with her lol. I took her in the bedroom away from everything with favorite treats and toys and just was no good, she didn't like this at all. She doesn't really have a favorite toy and as far as food lol that is another story, she just shreds her food and doesn't really eat anything that I offer. This is why I am having soo much trouble

Oh I see now what you were trying to say watchout about getting her before she flies! Sorry even though I'm brown/red hair sometimes a little blonde is there too lol. I will try that as well thanks!

Well thank you! We do have another parrot that my husband dealt with because she was abused so I do know all about the dominance and taller than the cage. I am 5'8 and when she is standing on the lower part of her cage/playtop where she does the majority of the time I am taller than her, she does try to run up the ladder though and get higher but there is nothing we can do there for I would hit my head on the ceiling if I stood on a chair lol. And when I do make her step up I do hold her feet already and always have, she can not fly off of my hand when I have her. She only flies when we approach the cage and try to get her to step up like I had posted earlier but if given the go night night command she will step right up. And trust me I think anyone here can tell you I have been patient with all that I have been through with her lol. LOL Dan we have a habit of posting at the same time so I will edit mine lol. Funny with the moon walk, hubby can do that but I cant' lol I will try more with her instead of just talking though thanks!<br><br>Post edited by: Ronda477, at: 2008/01/26 21:37

goodness I don't know! My hands aren't big enough for her though lol I would have to grab her with both of them and that means double the bites lol Should I try grabbing her? Or what is the first move I should do? I don't want to freak her out totally, should I start with her back, or what?

No Joe not at all first of all on the offense thing! You never have! As for the never been bit thing, I think it's cause when she growls at me I show no fear, I just make her do what I want her to do anyway, like step up. Cause she will give me a growl and try to bite and I say no in a firm voice and I don't stop going at her till she steps up. I don't dance around her for fear of being bit, I just haven't yet, but than again I haven't done what you have said you did with petting her back, cause that one I have backed off of before, but I will take your advice and take the bite if that will give me more room for her in your opinion. I am not afraid lol I deal with 1500 lb horses and kicks I'm sure hurt a whole lot worse than a parrot bite! My husband says either I have no sense or I just don't like to get walked on lol and I think it's a little bit of both! And as far as the flying I can't control that any more than I have already or I don't know how and any thoughts would be great! But she is clipped! She can't fly around the room but she can glide to the other side. I was afraid for one if I toweled her to cut the other two feathers that I could cut it would put whatever progress I have made back a few steps, not to mention the fact that we have dogs and cats in the home. The idea that she can't fly around the room but can glide to the top of the couch or to our quakers cage (which by the way she got her toe bit the other day) is better than her gliding to the floor and landing on a dog or chance of the cat getting her. We are always in the room with her when she is out, our living room is open to the kitchen and we can see her and she can see us so it's not like I'm leaving her alone in the room with the other animals, even when I go pee I announce it to the family so they will know to keep an eye on her lol. She doesn't seem to fly off her cage/play top unless something spooks her or occasionally when we just want to get her off her play top to try to encourage sitting with us. So please write me back and let me know what you think about what I have wrote because I am very eager to try anything with her. Like I said not afraid, I train horses lol and not little ponies lol. My one horse is so tall that when she extends her head as far as she can go even on my tippy toes I can't reach the top of her head and I'm 5'8. So please any advice I'm willing to try as long as no one thinks she will hate me for it! Thanks again Joe and please no offense taken in anything!

lol thanks Dan!

So pretty Hannah!!!! The fun begins!!!

Oh yes I do enjoy her soo much even though I can't do anything really with her. Like I said before please don't anyone get me wrong cause I knew most likely she wouldn't be cuddly just was hoping to be able to sit with her at least and I really think I lost out on the breeders, where everyone was able to chose their bird through connection. I won't ever do that again. I really didn't have a choice for there were no breeders within a 350 mile radius of us but I think a lifetime long bird would be worth the drive next time. Example if we get a Congo in the future. Thanks everyone at least for trying lol{Feel-good-00020114}

Yes my dad's song lol I think it goes, beans beans beans the more you eat the more you fart, the more you fart the better you feel, so eat beans with ever meal lol.

LOL Dan sorry but have you forgotten she does have her wings clipped! lol This is the stuborn bird remember? She has 5 feathers clipped off of each wing, and from previous posts we decided not to clip any more off because I would have to towel her and it would probably set her back with me. So guess patience is my only option :unsure:

No problem at all, like I said I am here to learn and just trying to get her to love me!! lol But thank you! If down the road she won't let me than maybe I'll force it on her but for now she is stepping up when asked so that is a good thing, she just doesn't want to hang out is all lol. Maybe she'll get bored by herself and hang out sooner or later!

I was going to ask the same thing, with our quaker Molly she was abused and the vet and all the forums said to towel her and talk to her every day. We did well mostly me cause she would go to my husband, the abuse came from a woman so she hated me! But than again quakers are definitely{Feel-good-000200B9} known for a one person bird, so I just accepted that and now 9 years down the road she will let me handle her a little bit here and there, but is still completely hubbies bird! But I didn't want to push back the little tiny bit of progress I have made with her so I haven't done this with her. Just hopefully it will be like when I was adopted lol. I was 3 months old, and took to my adoptive parents like they were my birth parents eventually. Didn't take long for I was a baby but of course being passed from adoption agency to foster home back to adoption agency and than into my mom and dad's arms it took me a bit just like it would anyone to adjust. Guess I just have to give it time! My patience will one day be rewarded I hope!

but are they the same as the beans? Beans beans beans the more you eat the more you .... lol One of my dad's weird songs lol

lol goodness NO! I have enough emotional roller coaster stuff with her lol. I couldn't imagine 4 at this point lol. I feel like a high school girl lol. Why doesn't she like me? Why doesn't she want to be part of our flock? We're popular! lol Jokin but trust me I thought that when she first got here lol. Just now I know it takes time. Baby steps lol

Cool thanks Tracy! Just wanted to make sure I was on the right road. I know she will never be the cuddly type just with time I hope to be able to hold her on my hand or sit with her either on my shoulder or just her sitting on the chair with me and not flying off lol. But she is slowly and I mean slowly coming around I think lol. She moves slower than a snail lol. But thank god I'm a patient person!

Good that was my next question lol that's why I wanted to know how many people actually sprouted seeds. Well these are beans actually. I buy a 15 bean mix at the grocery store and sprout them. Are they still good for her? Sorry should've been clearer never thought of brussel sprouts :sick: lol

Yeh she does but when you go to her cage to get her off the top of her playstand sometimes she will step up and other times she will fly off. But than after she is off the cage she always always steps up. I have never had a problem with her on that one except for the times we go to get her with her flying off first. She knows "Lets go night night" and will actually have her little foot up before I get there lol. I am trying to work on other ones for the same thing like "Mommy has to go bye bye you have to go home" We just started that last week. So I'm hoping she will catch on to that one as well so she won't fly away before the step up

No problem Tracy lol. I wasn't saying cuddly like I see some on here I know she won't be like that lol. But seems like almost everyone can at least sit with their bird either on their chair or shoulder and watch tv not necessarily cuddle just one on one contact kind of thing. And meal time does consist of eating in the living room for us lol. So she's with us 100%. But didn't think it was too high but maybe for her it is. Just thought people could handle their birds to some extent.

Thank you Tracy I'm glad my bird isn't strange. I thought maybe I was doing something wrong cause it seemed like the breeder said she was eating all these things and she will barely touch them for us. I thought maybe it was just when she first got here but now 3 months later she is still doing the same things. I will keep trying though and thanks for the tips!!

no not brussel sprouts. It is the sprouting seeds. And I already know how to do them cause the breeder sent instructions on how, was just wondering how many people feed them to their parrots was all. I get a 15 bean mix at the store and sprout them. She loves loves loves them! lol Was just curious!

HI Jeff nice to meet you! I own a TAG and just got her in Oct. So we are still learning a whole bunch. But I like yourself did some homework and wanted a family bird so to speak. I found some info here and there on the net and they almost always said that the TAG's were a better family bird and not such a one person bird. So far I see this to be true. I can tell she does favor me a little more but if she flies off of her play stand the kids or my husband can get her with no problem. She still has some trust issues with us but I believe that is all due to what happened to her to get to us. Long story lol. But as far as talkers go, I think they do talk just as much as a CAG would. She has already started making tons of noises and every day I swear she says a new word but she mumbles it and won't say it again lol. But she is starting! I have never had an electus but this is our first TAG and even though it's taking her a bit to get to know all of us she's still a joy to have! I can see what she will be and that is what has made me soo patient through all of this but I do think that TAG's make a great pet! I do hope to own a CAG soon too probably within the next two years. Good Luck to you!

SweetHeart doesn't seem to love too much of anything besides her sprouts. I have given her free roam of pellets along with seeds and veggies and fruits. She mostly just throws and picks apart the veggies and fruits and along with some of the other things like certain pellets. But I know the pellets is normal for my other parrot does this. But like with our other parrot she loves a bunch of different things and actually eats them! Not just picks them apart and throws them. And she won't eat anything we are eating for dinner. Is this just because she is under a year old and still young or what? Little confused lol. Thanks! And just so everyone knows I know how they can favor the seeds but she honestly seems to like the pellets evenly so I have left the seeds out for her as well. I do watch how much seeds she gets. Just wanted to put that out there as well. Thanks again!

Just wondering how many people feed their AG's sprouts? My breeder said Sweetheart loved them so I started doing them and she does absolutely love them! Just wanted to know how common they were among them. Thanks!

Ok for the ones who know me and SweetHeart could you give any advice on how to get her to come around some more with us? I don't mean to be rude with others but everyone here that has read up on my posts knows all the stuff I have been through with her and there is just too much to re-post. I have been very patient and will continue doing so, I just want to know there is some hope! The plus is she is making more noises. Sometimes I even hear little words but she won't say them completely yet, it's like she is doing it under her breath lol. She doesn't fly much off of her cage top anymore which is good. But if we go to get her off of it she will fly. Than wherever she lands she has no problem with us getting her. Remember I got her at the end of Oct. And also remember the terrible flight she had to get here! I just want to be able to handle her! I have not gotten bit yet lol that is a plus. But she won't let me pick her up and sit with me on the chair or come over and eat off of my plate. If she isn't on the top of her playstand she is in her cage. I have tried to take her and sit with her and she immediately flies back to her stand/cage. She will let us come up a little more to her and talk to her while she is on her cage/play stand. She used to right away fly away, but now she waits a minute or two lol. But this is all the progress we have made! She is just become a pretty bird to talk to over in the corner next to me lol. I hate not being able to hold her! Or just being able to be on the same couch/chair with her! Anyone have any more ideas. I feel like I have exhausted every option! Thanks in advance! Just getting depressed about the whole thing! It's been 3 months now. Oh the one other thing she does which I thought was good, actually two: is when I leave the room she will make this loud chirp noise till I answer her or come back and ask her what, and the other is she sleeps on the corner of her playtop/cage right next to me with her beak under her wing. She doesn't do the whole head yet but she sticks her head back and tucks her beak. Well let me know if anyone has any suggestions for a frustrated paront lol.