Talon

Judygram will be here shortly to give you the best advice ever!! Her house if filled with her husbands trophies.....so I will leave it to the expert!!

Hi Jay, should I discourage her behavior when she does this, allow it but with no petting.. I don't want to encourage it, but I don't want to be mean either.....we are quite bonded so I don't want her to be mad at Meir unnecessary.....know what I mean?

That was great! It always amazes me that my amazon has such recongnitioof another amazon no matter what they are saying or singing. She always freezes and listens so intently and won't move until she is convinced it is over. Soooo smart!!

I don't read that anyone is being insulting here, and even if they were, do we really care MORE about the feelings of someone over a helpless bird?? Isn't our biggest concern the feeling and health of a creature that has no say in its life??? I am with many others, I feel it is cruel and this bird WILL suffer, both in health, and interaction, as someone stated cleaning a plexiglass cage will be next to impossible to keep up on. The bacteria that will accumulate on the splatters that happen when they go poop in an enclosed area is harmful....and it can't be healthy in a closed environment. Why not just stuff the bird and put it on the mantel???

Jay and Doug, thank you for this discussion. I never even thought about the walnuts or the pistachios in the shell. I think I will make the switch.....no chance of mold in the pistachios in a shell?

I always wondered that myself. I Do allow Nilah to have one or two every other day or so. There are some pretty I depth threads about this, I will see if I can resurrect them to continue our discussion. I DO know there have been a few members here that have had fatal peanut related health issues from feeding them peanuts.....I'm on a hunt.

Doug, I was always under the impression it DOES apply to peanuts in the shell. Those that chose to feed them use human grade. Lucky for me, my greys ont like them, but my amazon, that's a whole other story, they are her favorite!

So happy to see you back in this room! I look forward to your contributions!

One of my favorite loving gestures Nilah does: When my cat crawls up onto my lap or chest as I'm on the couch watching tv, Nilah who is usually perched on knee, sees me patting the cat, and she runs over up my arm and puts her head against my face and rubs my face with her head for cuddles. She is very jealous, and if I don't pat her instead of the cat, she chases my cat away. :rolleyes: I would love to hear others stories of their amazons. My greys aren't as jealous, only Rikki, but she just keeps taking my hand away with her beak and putting her head down and saying coo!

That's adorable!

Ray, yes I too thought she was a bit young for this behaviour, that's why I posted this....wondering why she is doing this so young.

Thanks Ray, how old is Cricket? I thought I had a few years before I had to deal with this. It is nothing like my 7 year old greys at all. They don't exhibit this behavior in such a way at all, their behaviour is very mild.

Question to anyone who has info or experience with a female amazon. Nilah is 3 years old, and yes it is spring time, but the past couple of weeks, she has started a new behaviour, and lately it has been most times when I sit on the couch at anytime of the day or evening and watch tv or play on my iPad. She curls up against me anywhere she can find, squats, opens her wings and starts cooing like a duck.....YES, I know what this behaviour means, I do all I can to discourage it, I move her, I gently say no to her, I try distracting her, but she continues to crawl anywhere on me she can find. I am trying very hard to discourage this behavior, not encourage it, so many times I have to get up and go do something else as she won't stop. I NEVER pet her at these times, nor does it start because I am petting her. Any suggestions to curb this? Or do I just have to wait it out. She's only threeeeee.........

Oh this is a fun thread! Nilah does the same thing. Not always for a cuddle, but always to get to me in a hurry! It a cute movement that only amazons seem to do, and very funny to watch!

No aviary at my house, just 5 birds, 2 cats,2 dogs, 2 horses and 3 kids.

That is adorable! Thank you for sharing that heart warming and amazing story with us.

I have tried to stay out of this discussion as I am appalled at you thinking your bird can live a healthy and long prosperous life in what essentially is a bubble. It is unhealthy and your bird will surely suffer in many ways. These are issues that should have been discussed and given lots of thought to BEFORE acquiring your bird. But seeming as that is water under the bridge, you have to do what is in the best interest of you bird. And that may very will be re-homing it. Doesn't sound like much of a life living in a laundry room or in a closed in bubble. As others have said, your mother chose to have kids, and they are messy even more so than 1 bird. She allowed to get this bird, she should allow you the responsibility of keeping the house clean from it too. Sounds like she hasnt even given you the chance. You have another option. Why don't you try and bring her heart into living this bird. If you can do that, she might be more willing to tolerate any mess. We all put up with annoyances in those pets and people we love. Share your bird with her, encourage her to spend time talking to it. Maybe feeding it some treats, giving him scritches on the head. Have her whistle to it and she might love how he imitates her whistle. You just might be able to win her over where she might want him around more and would be willing to tolerate any mess he makes that YOU will clean up. Let her know how much this bird means to you and how it is only there until you are able to move to your own place. I do believe that if you continue to keep this bird in the laundry room or in a bubble no matter what kind of an air system you install, he will begin to get stressed and pluck and have other behavioral problems. These parrots NEED human interaction and out of cage time with their family. They are flock creatures and need that to continue to flourish.

That is beautifully thought provoking. Thank you Ray, it is sooooo importantt that potential rescuers really think about the points you have made. A STICKY for sure!

I agree with Nancy. As long as you are aware of the consequences, there is no reason not to allow them those yummy treats. Wait until you see what happens if you feed them too much watermelon...

Yes,my family and I have been watching this for weeks now. Its pretty incredible to watch how gently they feed their babies.

That's hilarious Ray. A story we can all associate with. When I am eating anything, Rikki pulls my hands away from the food so I don't eat any, she thinks it's all for her! Nilah runs, yes runs down my arm to dive in. Talon waits like the sweet mannered lady she is. What about when they fly on top of the fridge and ride the door open and close? My kids have fun with this game, the birds love it!! Mom doesn't...

Wouldn't that be fun! But I think you'd be giving Nilah back in a couple of days! She's like having a 2 year old around, constant supervision on my part. ShEs learning now though, all I have to do is say her name in a stern voice and she stops what she is doing and runs away, but don't think that's the end, she comes back time and time again testing me! Lol

Perfectly stated Judy! As I said, this is not something that goes on every day at every meal. And who's to say, I dont move her. Good grief!! Such controversy over me & how I handle my birds. Considering no one lives in my house to see what goes on, then no one should be passing judgments out. Funny how one funny picture I posted had me feeling as tho I have to EXPLAIN myself!! I will think twice next time about posting photos here as admin, maybe I should just sit in the background and not participate!

Peanut butter is very fattening and really not good for them. But in small amounts, it is fine. I put a tiny amount on toast for them. Talon eating out of the jar, was a one time fluke. Steak is fine, just no mushroom, garlic or onions.

I never thought anyone WAS disagreeing with me, and frankly, I don't care if they do or don't. This is how it is in my house per my rules, not theirs. They do not rule the roost and they know it. But allowing them to eat off my plate even tho they have their own as well is allowed because I allow it. I am not a dictator when it comes to my kids or pets. I set limits, and they all know it. My limits may be more relaxed than others, but that is who I am, and having 2 birds that are 7 years old who listen to me and want to please me tells me otherwise. We are very happy here, and the way I raise my pets and kids is in the best interest of my family. I really don't see why sharing a picture of Nilah standing on her toast is such a big deal. I personally thought it was cute and wanted to share. So what if others are horrified by it and think she walks all over my, that couldn't be further from the truth. They don't live in my house! Lol