Talon

Due to some recent misunderstandings that I have seen lately. I would like to clarify a few things. This is an African Grey Forum. We come here to learn, to share, to offer advice, to help, to ask questions, to show off our birds, to have a little fun, to play games, share news, enter contests, etc. We make friends, we may develop long lasting friendships. We are A FAMILY. We care about each other, we cry over the losses that are experienced here, we worry about the lost birds, we worry about another members troubles, we check the latest posts daily to see what's new, we are sad if one of our members or their birds are sick. We keep checking in the hopes that all is well when something is wrong, we worry about what is going on elsewhere in your world, we hope and pray for each other here. This is why we are here. And in this family, where we use this technology to communicate with, we find it difficult to see the emotion behind the words, the expression, the tone of voice, the REAL intent that those written words mean. All we are left to with, is our interpretation of those written words that we read. Many members here are busy at work, and want to help so badly, they may post quickly making it impossible to analyze in so many different ways what their reply may or may not sound like. They shouldn't have to, we are all adults here, and need to remember that EVERYONE means well, and are only trying to help. But what I want everyone here to remember, especially those that are reading replies and posts, is that these posts are written by many different members from all over the world, from different backgrounds, different walks of life. You should not always take what they say personally, if you don't agree with their statements, that's fine, debate it if you like, but know that if you start a debate, you will read many opinions, you may like them or you may not. I have seen members start to feel that they are being personally attacked in these debates. I don't usually find that to be the case, but if I do, it is dealt with very quickly. I have the ability to lock threads, and delete them, I use that power only as a last resort if I am unable to calm things down both on the public forum and in the private message system after fair warning. In closing, please remember that ALL are welcome here. EVERYONE has so much to offer, just because your name may say "newbie" under it, you are still just as valuable as the members that have been here when I was a newbie. Back then, we had 3 rooms and no moderators, thanks to Ceasarsdad and myself, we now we have 15 rooms and 3 admin and 9 moderators. (plus I am in the search for a couple more.) WELCOME FAMILY AND REMEMBER THAT HERE, WE TREAT EACH OTHER WITH DIGNITY AND RESPECT. I would hope that if anyone ever has a problem, you will pm me or any moderator for help. That's what we are here for. THANK YOU FOR JOINING THIS FORUM AND BECOMING A MEMBER OF OUR FAMILY! B) Penny/aka Talon<br><br>Post edited by: Talon, at: 2008/09/18 04:43

My 2 birds have all types of juice from a glass and they love it! :woohoo:

Toni, thank you for the update. My God! You have been through so much, and what a lot of hard work you have had to do to get where you are in just 6 months. Keep up the good work, and I will pray that you make a speedy recovery so I can do that Cartwheel with you! :laugh:

I too live in Massachusetts. I purchased a grey from a breeder in Florida who had sent me pictures, updates and had her shipped to me at 8 1/2 weeks old fully weaned. I had no problems with anything. She was a very sweet and well socialized bird. There are only a few breeders here in this state, and they never seem to have any greys available. They are reserved so early on. Best of luck to you. I wouldn't be afraid to purchase your grey from this breeder. They look very reputable.

Welcome to our Lost & Found Room! I hope you never find the need to use this room, but if the unspeakable has happened and your bird has escaped, we are want you to be able to access some quick advice to help in the safe return of your bird. We will be compiling information here that may help you in rescuing your bird should you ever find yourself in a situation where you need it. We have had a few members here who have had their bird escape and spent days trying to coax them down out of trees, ect. I would also like this room to be used in following any rescues in progress. We are here to offer support as well, and any experiences you have will be helpful to others to follow. We LOVE all our birds here whether they belong to us or not. We have that bond that makes us feel like extended family and care for each other and our birds. The support you will receive here, will be a comfort in any situation that you find yourself in. Penny /aka Talon

I would like to welcome everyone to our Health Room! :cheer: I will begin the process of moving topics into this room in the next day or so that are appropriate. We have many. Please feel free to get started here with any Health issues or questions or advice you may have, topics pertaining to our birds, any birds. Some examples such as: feather plucking, eye questions, skin problems, eye concerns, changes in behavior, illness, things like that. **Please note: ANY FOOD QUESTIONS, PLEASE POST IN THE BIRD FOOD ROOM. Don't worry if your not sure which room to post in, use your good judgment, I can move your thread to the appropriate room if need be. <br><br>Post edited by: Dave007, at: 2008/10/29 22:15

I have one and use it a lot. Talon prefers this to go to the vet with, or to transport her into the car much better than the standard carrier.

OMG! I am so sorry for you and Caesar. I am in tears for you and what happened. You are in my prayers.

Thanks! Love that signature line!! :woohoo:

WOW Judy!! Excellent investigative work!! A sigh of relief from this household, we LOVE this popcorn!! :woohoo: :woohoo: Karma for you girl!!! {Love-000200BF}

Thank you Ryann. Sometimes reading just words and not being able to actually hear a voice or see a face to go with those words, makes things misconstued, and misinterpreted. It is always better to take a step back, a deep breath, and take time to settle down before responding. But, hey, we are always learning in life, and bettering ourselves. Just chalk it up to a lesson learned. No hard feelings, I respect you for having the courage to apologize, it's not always an easy thing to do. So, I expect everyone to start over, and I will be the first to say, WELCOME TO OUR FORUM, and I look forward to hearing more from you and making friends.

That's the danger of the internet....

HELLO..... Remember this thread? It's an important one. Let's get those fingers typing in the guest books of our members here. I know everyone is so busy, but even if you only do one a week, it is a nice gesture that means so much to us all. :cheer:

RyannsGrey: No one asked you to remain quiet, I only asked you to treat the members who are trying to help you by letting you know every aspect of hand raising and feeding baby greys with the respect that all of us human deserve. When you ask for help on any forum, you will receive many replies, some you like, some you don't. You take the advice you like and find helpful, and hopefully learn from it. You take the advice you don't like or disagree with, with a grain of salt, and ignore it. Life is too short to be arguing and making a big deal out of things with people from all over the world that you most likely will never meet in person. There is much information here in various threads that I think you will find very helpful to you. Just do a search in the search bar, and I think you will be happy with the information that you find. B)<br><br>Post edited by: Talon, at: 2008/09/10 21:32

WELL, WELL, WELL! I first would like to thank BMustee, Toni, Danmcq, and Kaedyn for their replies. You have all offered wonderful advice. And seeing as this forum was built to help those who ask, and offer advice and share our experiences, I am happy that they were here to help. It is all in the safety of every precious bird out there. We all know they are extremely delicate, especially as babies. Many of us older members with YEARS of experience in African Greys, wouldn't dare try and breed without lots and lots of previous experience. It is so easy to accidentally and unintentionally have a baby die from lack of practice in hand feeding. The time to gain experience and practice is not from a fresh clutch left solely in your care, or from reading a book and researching on the internet. It is from working with experienced breeders who can TEACH you how to properly feed and care for them under their careful watch. A lack of experience in not knowing what to look for in health issues that can arise will kill them. RyannsGreys: You came to this forum looking for help, did you not? Your post says: BREEDING MY GREYS HELP Well, your getting advice, and you are taking it and using it as personal attacks on the members here who HAVE the knowledge to help you. Take their advice. They know what they are talking about. I will be watching this thread very closely, and if I see any more attacks on the members here by anyone, I will LOCK this thread. Becoming a member here requires that everyone be treated with dignity and respect. I am seeing you get defensive and making personal attacks on others who are only trying to give you the advice you asked for. They have not insulted you, or disrespected you in any way shape or form. When you ask for advice, you take it, you can pick and choose as you wish, but you don't come back at them by verbually trying to pick a fight because you don't like the advice they give. That kind of behavior will not be tolerated. If it continues, YOU WILL BE BANNED. Sincerely, Penny/aka Talon SALLAS: Thank you for your reply and getting my attention on my Blackberry in Starbucks! Karma for you!! B)<br><br>Post edited by: Talon, at: 2008/09/10 19:55

Oh Judy, I'm so sorry to hear of this very sad news. I too enjoyed her many posts here. She will be deeply missed by us all. She was a contributing member that will always be remembered by her friends here. I hope she has found peace at the Rainbow Bridge with our feathered friends that have passed on. Her family, her four legged family members and her feathered family will be in my prayers.

WOW! Thanks for the links everyone! B)

I'd love it, but too far away from my family as well.

Thanks everyone for the advice. I have always given Talon a treat when I put her in her cage. It's not working anymore... And I can get her to step up and move her anywhere else in the house. I do spend time with her on my lap at night. And I have gone out of my way to spend extra time with her hoping this will help. It's not like she's afraid of going in her cage, Melissa can put her there anytime and with no problems. I have tried gripping her feet, but she bites and flaps and always manages to squirm her way out. :pinch:

We need to come up with a time, and day, and a plan of what we would like to discuss. Perhaps just an informal one to start where we could all meet and giggle at all the different accents. Then we could come up with a topic for our 2nd podcast discussion.

Okay, here's my story..........One day as I was bent over putting laundry in the dryer, a bird flew on my back, I wasn't surprised as Rikki has been doing this since she came to us. As I stood up, she climbed up onto my shoulder. I then walked into the kitchen where I saw my other bird eating grapes on the counter. I then said, "Hi Talon" then I went to put Rikki in her cage as I was getting ready to leave for work. As I reached up onto my shoulder and told her to step up, she did, and I proceeded to put her in her cage on her favorite perch. (she always goes in very nicely) Well, she started fighting me, and I of course was in a hurry. I kept telling her to "step down", which she knows, and "what's the matter?" but she kept fluttering her wings and trying to climb up my arm. She was getting frantic! I couldn't understand what happened to my well behaved sweet bird. It was then, I REALLY looked at her, and saw it was TALON!! :pinch: I was trying to put her into Rikki's cage, and she was not happy about it! NO WAY! NO HOW! Was she going to have any part of going in that cage!! :evil: :evil: I felt soooooo bad! I thought it was Rikki on my shoulder, and Talon in the kitchen, but it was Talon on my shoulder, and Rikki in the kitchen! Well, you can probably guess by now, that I can't get Talon to go in her cage anymore, Every time I pick her up and take her to her cage, she flies away! The other day, I spent 30 minutes chasing her all over the house trying to catch her and get her in her cage. I finally had to towel her and fight with her to go in, My daughter has no problems putting her in her cage at any time!! But here's the interesting part. I can put her in her sleep cage to bed, just not her play cage! Any suggestions? It's a real problem now that my daughter is in school and can't put Talon in her cage for me when I have to leave. I have to chase her around the house, she knows I get mad, so its not a game to her. She tires herself out, but not enough to let me catch her. I'm ready to buy a net!! :unsure:

I can't wait!! :woohoo: :woohoo:

One more thing, we have such a difference in time zones, we need to find a happy medium, so our long distant moderators can participate instead of sleeping....:lol:

I LOVE the idea! I'm up for it! :woohoo:

Judy, download skype, it's free. Then you will need a headset/microphone.