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SALSA!!!

ROFLOL... Believe me, no you don't, it wouldn't be the first time....hehehe

Picking a Zon is "like a Box of chocolate, you never know what you'll get". Go with your heart!

Hi, Maggie here... For those unfamiliar, one of our rescues is a Triton Cockatoo named Tango. Before she came to us, she had been clipped before fledging and had been kept in a cage for 8 years with no contact. The previous family had been very good to her but had no contact besides having her clipped. She has not been re-clipped since we have had her and she has had full flight feathers for a couple of years now. She has shown no desire to fly and the few times that she hangs on her cage and flaps her wings, the cage has lifted 3 inches...LOL...Today, she was a little upset with me because I was home from work a little later than usual. I had grabbed her food dishes out of her cage so I could refill them because she had pitched them in a fit. She had become more upset that I had the nerve to remove them so she decided to take matters into her own hands so to speak. I was about 4-5 feet away from her with my back to her and she leaped off the cage, started flapping and flew to me, landing on my back!!!! I don't know who was more surprised, her or me...LOL... When you have a bird that big and who weighs that much, it is a little bit different than when a 'Zon or Grey lands on you. You fear a loss of an ear or a chunk of neck or a new unwanted piercing...Jay couldn't help me...and she was nipping at my neck as I walked back to her cage. I had to bribe her with pistachios...which she took after spending five minutes trying to wrestle the plastic jar out of my hand...LOL...It was worth every bit of it to have her fly! It is just that with a bird of her size, there is that fear factor in the back of your mind...And Jay wants a Macaw...hahahaha! When hell freezes over.....

It's been a while, how about all currant members post recent "Naked Shower Photo's";) Note: If your in the photo with you Zon, be respectful, have clothes on...[ROFL :rolleyes:]

Please, by all means give your parrot what ever food you wish and yes, moderation is the key. Please look up the word "accumulate". All parrots have a different diet, " nearly every parrot owner i know gives their bird fruit" I'm sure you mean this in general terms, A Amazon requires more fruit in their diet then a cockitiel which requires next to none, others parrots live on nectar and fruit and flowers, cockatoos and "Tiels" and keets live on seeds. Now to Greys, 1 grape a day is enough for a Grey, they like them and most fruit and they will eat a bunch of them at a time, that doesn't mean it's good for them...The banana trees in the wild don't have added man made chemicals, processed sugar and added salts, [potassium is a salt] this is where the word accumulate comes into play.. A few apple seeds won't hurt a parrot, but when the accumulate over time, it can kill them. Salt, a parrot has no way of eliminating it from their system. Sugar has no food value and a Grey will fill itself on fruit which causes runny poop instead of food they need to survive..... Yes, milking a coconut is not only safer but better then man made power water designed to increase salt levels in your system. What harm can come from giving your parrot,let alone a Grey potentially harmful foods in moderation??? Death, stunted growth and improper muscle development, vitamin deficiencies, vitamin overdose etc etc etc, check it out. Whats good for us, isn't most of the time good for our feathered friends. What I wrote isn't only a opinion but scientific facts. I wish I could give to all that are in my care all that they "really like" but it's that word "care" that stops me from doing it........... Jay

Yes, I agree with Ray... Here you go....http://www.avianweb.com/panamayellowfrontedamazon.html Thanks Jay

A dominant mutation needs only to be present in one copy of a gene to change a bird's appearance. Normal grey is dominant to all recessive and sex-linked colors. The two true dominant mutations are dominant silver and dominant yellow-cheek. A bird with one dominant silver gene will appear silver, and is called a single-factor bird. A cockatiel with two copies of the gene is called a double-factor. The two forms can be told apart visually; a double-factor is much paler than a single-factor (think of the double-factor as having inherited a double dose of melanin reduction). Yellow-cheek is inherited in the same way as dominant silver, but single-factor and double-factor birds cannot be visually told apart. A recessive mutation must affect both copies of a gene in order to change the bird's appearance; a visually Whiteface cockatiel must have inherited a copy of the "Whiteface" gene from each of its parents. A bird that possesses only one copy of a recessive gene is called a split, and will pass that mutation on to half of its offspring. Most splits will not show any sign of the hidden mutation, although cockatiels that are split to pied will often have a patch of yellow feathers on the backs of their necks.

Maggie here. Organic Apple cider vinegar is preferred, but you can use apple cider or white vinegar. Running water is ok for the first rinse. Water alone will not kill germs etc...Thanks Maggie

Maggie here. The first time is to remove dirt, grime etc, you could use plain running water, the second time is to remove bacteria, dirt and oils from your hands etc...Thanks Maggie

Your a GOOD PARRONT......

Coconut water is ok, whats in it isn't... Remember, salt and sugar is accumulates, so it's better safe than sorry to buy a coconut and milk it...The purpose of coconut water is to replace the salt in our system, not good for parrots..This really isn't a good product for our parrots. The amount of potassium could cause a diuretic reaction in our fids......Sorry.... Jay

Good call Ray, our Salsa, female Orange-wing is a real B@#*&^% in season lol. Trade ya.....

Sounds good, do it...

The reason I posted this thread was to make everyone aware that there green bird is far more than just green. Each amazon, be it a Yellow-head or Yellow-nape, the distribution of color and colors ar different on each parrot. The reason for my post? to make everyone aware of the true beauty of their Zon...

A Grey is not a child, they only use a child as comparison. Seek out a Avian Behaviorist! Your post is good thanks... Jay

chezron Wonderful post, thank you....Jay

We are always here for you in heart and spirit......

Hi...what happens when a parrot does not fledge or learn to fly is that their equilibrium and balance is never properly developed. A second problem that occurs is the lack of confidence and knowing something is wrong/something is missing by not learning to fly. A third issue is possible stunting and a definite improperly developed back and flight muscles. The hard landings and not being able to stop forward flight are results of the lack of equilibrium and balance. Practice step up, letting your baby walk on your arm or the back of a chair...anything other than the perch so the baby will learn the feel of different objects. Soft quilts are a must. If you have any large glass areas or mirrors, put stickies/post-ups all over them so she can tell that is a solid object. They will do no damage to where you post them. Joe, our 7year old abused rescue, is just now learning to fly and to balance. He is very slow and he doesn't have much interest in flying. Tango, our 11 year old rescue 'Too, and Freddy, our 21 year old 'Too, never learned to fly because they were clipped before being fledged and continued to be clipped for 8 and 18 years respectively and we fear, from what we have observed, that they will never be able to fly...which is sad. When your baby learns to fly 8-15 feet and still has a rough landing, you will hear her panting but just praise the bejesus out of her. When they accomplish this, we praise them and call them our "Eagle babies". It is a long, hard road but it is possible...but it is also very stressful for both you and your little girl. Please go forward with it and you will see a huge difference in the future as time goes on. We have seen the results of too many clipped parrots clipped too early and cry for them. When you see that first successful flight, they hold their head up, stand tall and you can see the pride in their eyes! Thanks...

Hi, Maggie here...I suggest washing with vinegar and skinning it. Then, soak it in organic apple cider vinegar and water, slice it, dice it...it will be messy no matter what you do. Do not rinse though after soaking in the vinegar water. Now for the best part...the beet tops or leaves are excellent for all parrots. Rinse them very well in plain water (stems and leaves) and soak for ten minutes in apple cider vinegar water, shake off excess water and drape between the bars of the cage or leave them on a plate in the cage. It may take awhile but keep at it ...

You are helping him more than you know...

Here you go my friend...Salmon is an excellent source of calcium. Milk Products Calcium (MG) Vegetables / Fruit Calcium (MG) Plain yogurt, 2%, 1 cup 415 Rhubarb, 1 cup 348 Nonfat dry milk, 1/4 cup 377 Collard/mustard greens, 1/2 cup 179 Skim milk, 1 cup 302 Kale, 1 cup 179 Buttermilk, 1 cup 285 White beans, 1 cup 170 Mozzarella cheese, part-skim, 1 oz 207 Beet greens, 1 cup 165 Ricotta cheese, part-skim, 1/4 cup 168 Broccoli, 1/2 cup 89 Cottage cheese, 2%, 1 cup 155 Okra, 1/2 cup 88 Pudding (with skim milk), 1/2 cup 150 Rutabagas, 1 cup 72 Parmesan cheese, 1 tbsp 69 Green beans, 1 cup 58 Lima beans, 1 cup 55 Bean/Grain Products Orange, 1 medium 52 Waffle/pancake (milk, egg added) 179 Cabbage, 1 cup 50 Tofu, 3 oz 150 English muffin 96 Seafood Soybeans, 1/2 cup cooked 88 Salmon, 3-4 oz 225 Corn muffin 66 Oyster, 3 1/2 oz 100 Pita bread, 1 pocket 49 Clams, 1/2 cup 74 Fortified whole wheat cereal 48 Shrimp, 3 1/2 oz 50 Corn tortilla, one 6 inch 42 Haddock, 3 1/2 oz 42 Whole wheat dinner roll 34 Brown rice, 1 cup 33

Thanks Nancy, very nice of you..Nancy, Momo, This reply is not meant bad in any way. Please check all and any laws or rules in shipping to Iran from the U.S.A. Thanks and please keep us informed.....

Your never dumb... Boil the drumstick in enough water to cover them, for 30min until the meat falls off, leave the meat by the big knuckle. Side treat, put left over meat back into broth, add seasoning of your choice, peas and carrots, noodles or rice and you have GOOD chicken soup.........

Thanks all, I agree, Salsa misses Spock very much, they used to hang out on the shower curtain rod, now Salsa flies to it and calls out "Spock" and she will sing "Ok, ok, ok Spock". If I was able, I'd get her a friend asap......