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{Feel-good-000200BB}Karma... Fantastic!!! Thanks Dave, perfect...You explained it all. The photos are really nice... Jay<br><br>Post edited by: Jayd, at: 2010/01/06 01:08

:blink OK, I,m BAD...RudysMom asked the question, I made this post to get responses from all of you...The birds not for me. Jay:whistle:

Good answer's...Why would you get this type of bird? Will they get along with a grey? do I have to separate them?`

Thank you, Karma to you...

:)I was asked by "RudysMom",What kind of 2nd bird should I get? I started a new post in "Other Birds" "What kind of 2nd bird should I get?" All you grey owners fly over there and give your 2 cents worth.... Jay

{Feel-good-000200BB} Ok, everybody out there, what kind of bird do you have? and why should I get it? I have a grey...The question has been asked? I'll post my suggestions later today... Jay [not for me!!!This is a general question.] Post edited by: Jayd, at: 2010/01/05 20:48<br><br>Post edited by: Jayd, at: 2010/01/05 21:55

Carol, your not rude, and to inquire about a type of bird before buying is really good.Almost every type of companion bird is represented here at "grey forums" "Just ask and ye shall find". Amazons are a # 1 choice, Quakers,[evil green chicken,lol] can make good pets to. In the last year I've hand-fed/weaned or help raised around 35 types of birds, later today I'll start a post on "Getting a 2nd bird" in "Other Birds" Jay

Good mama....Just to comfort,chill a soft face cloth and hold on legs and feet.[spoiled] ]

What a sweetie, and i'ts nice to see the two birds get along. In the wild, grey's scratch in there nest to clean them out,we call it "cleaning house or roto-routing", it's so cute, you ought to see 3 or 4 doing at the same time.[lol] KARMA. :silly:

Are prayers to you, just read the post. For accidents like this, our vet told us to apply "Neosporin Cream", Cream, not Ointment!!! It's safe for birds.....We have the same worry with Spock, he hates red also...Jay and Maggie... :(

Thank you, it's so easy to show our love by giving them treats and sharing our food with them.This applies to all companion birds,as you mentioned....

Nilah always brought to mind far-off places. Isn't it great to be able to choose a name that reflects our feelings or thoughts for our feathered companions...:laugh:

How Precious...Love all the photos...Thank you for sharing, don't stop......Jay

Some of you know how Salsa got her name. For those of you who might not be familiar with the story, please indulge this old man while I reiterate... On the day that we were bringing Salsa home from the breeder, we were driving down the hill from Kingman, Az. Maggie and I were talking about what to name our newest baby. Salsa had been quiet the whole trip and we were bouncing names off each other when Maggie suggested the name "What about Salsa?". All at once, Salsa began talking, cooing and making all kinds of noises. I asked her "Do you like the name Salsa?" and she continued to jabber away... How did you name your Amazon? Tell us about it! :cheer: Jay

This is a subject I feel strongly about and will never stop harping about...Point blank; an Amazon is highly prone to fatty Liver disease and fatty tissue tumors that can shorten their life span drastically. The Amazon is one of the least picky eaters of our companion birds. They will eat almost anything and relish every bite to the point of over-stuffing themselves and becoming obese. This then turns into fatty tissue issues. Example: A human is supposed to have about 3 walnuts a day. (Unshelled LOL) So, how much should an Amazon have? If we say one-third of a human portion per day, then they should only have one shelled walnut daily. There is also a number of excellent birdie treats available. Read the labels-lots of these treats will say "one a day".:dry: How easy is it to give your baby a walnut and watch him/her hold it and eat it 3-4-5 times a day without thinking plus slipping them all the extra little treats and bites we give them daily. This adds up... think about it.. If your Amazon becomes too heavy, they can't fly. A way to observe besides daily weighing is to monitor when your 'Zon is active; look at the breast area and it will appear that they have cleavage. If this looks over-abundant, press the area lightly with your finger. It should be soft. (thin layer of fat) If it is overly spongy, it is "NO NUT TIME" - cut the calories and fat intake. Another example is the variance of weight of our different types of Amazons. An Orange Wing Amazon weighs 350-360 grams on the average. A Yellow Nape Amazon weighs on the average 410+ range. What does your Amazon weigh? Jayd

Karma...So good, Welcome, never to long a story or to many photos. A great addition to our amazon flock, please keep the stories and photos coming...How old is Owen now? They are characters for sure.... Jay :laugh: :laugh:

You've brought up some good points....Most people look at me like I'm crazy when I tell them that. So many of the breeders here keep their average temps so high that the poor birds have trouble when doors open suddenly and they get chilled. A lot of people who come to see our birds are amazed at the humidity level we keep our house at year round. :ohmy: Love your post!!!

:laugh: Ha ha ha...So cute, Salsa just starting to say "Step-up", as soon as I start hand feeding a baby I say step-up, her brother is talking well.[?] It's nice to have a grey and amazon to compare. Some things I've noticed are: a grey thinks before doing, a amazon doe's, A grey never rushes, a amazon is 1st in line, most of a greys time is spent observing, most of a amazon's time is spent playing. Amazons reacts before thinking... Since Rikki is established and Nilah is new, doe's Rikki feel she doesn't have to? :huh:

The vet name is Susan Clubb, her research into feather plucking/feather disorders have been extremely helpful. Nolbasan is the name ,of the animal product used, its for dogs, cats, horses etc, for our birds, it's mixed 1 to 10 with distilled water it's comes in gallon size which is expensive I contacted my vet and pharmacist, the informed me that Hibtane the same and could he used instead, just mix 1 to 10. Of interest, over 50 percent of the non-professional photos of amazons on the net have some black feathers...[?]

B)This brought tears, Maggie and I see it every day, we need to get a larger place. Karma. Jay

For those who haven't read this, its a copy from "Rescue". Things were hard on birds back then, still are to some extent...:)This was my 1st amazon... Mr. B As a child, I had parakeets, a couple of ducks etc. In 1976, married with children we already had two cockatiels, and a Green-Cheeked parakeet. Going into a pet store, in a tiny cage in the back corner of the store was a sad and sick looking Lilac-Crowned Amazon. We bought him/her with no questions asked. Got him/her home and there was very little info on parrots at that time... Well, we fed him what was available, parakeet seed, sunflower seeds, peanuts, bread, and millet. (wow) His legs were all scabbed and sore, they used to wire their legs to the side of the transport cage so they wouldn't bounce around,[he/she was unbanded] his/her beak was rough from trying to bite off the leg wires. I built a open stand for him(?). We named him Mr B. He would just sit there, he'd stare and make no sound.. We all talked to him in happy voices, soon he would take a peanut or sunflower seed from my hand. I put a long ladder from his perch to the back of our couch, he would move across the ladder (about four feet) closer to the couch each day, we're talking months. I sat at the far end of the couch, it was an eight foot couch. Eventually after many months and a lot of personal work with him, he got to the point where he would stand behind my head on the back of the couch. He would stay there for different lengths of time. When he was done, he would mosey back to his perch. One day he stepped off the couch onto my shoulder and took a nice bite of my ear and drew blood. I didn't yell, nobody that was watching yelled and he stayed there. From then on, it was just a matter of training him to step up and step down but the terms we used then was just get up or get down. Eventually. he would go to people. He never did whistle or talk but he turned into a magnificent bird. In all the time we had him, he was never in a cage. Unfortunately, we had to move across country where pets were not allowed so we gave him to a good home where he seemed to adapt to the man right from the start. He was our first amazon and our 1st rescue of many over some 33 years that we have been working birds.<br><br>Post edited by: Jayd, at: 2010/01/02 00:37

We all have to do what we can as offend as possible, Yes it's we'll worth it... Only we can help.I've seen the DVD, don't own it yet. I'm going to look into more sites like this, I will keep you all informed.....

Really nice photos of "Puerto Amazons"..... http://www.parrotsinternational.org/Species_Pages/Puerto_Rican_Amazon_photos_1.htm Jay

Wild CAG's must see this...... http://www.parrots.org/pdfs/our_publications/psittascene/2002/02May51.pdf Jay

:woohoo: Well Happy New Years all!! New toys for all our fids today, Salsa got a new swing, different shapes of colored wood made into a swing. Our little acrobat loves to attack it from top, bottom, upside down, sometimes pretending it's a attacking her.LOL What is your zon's favorite toy? Amazon's legs are extremely strong, and they will reach out blindly to grasp onto a new foothold to get where they want to go. They can stretch their legs to amazing lengths. Any acrobat photos out there?:laugh: Jay<br><br>Post edited by: Jayd, at: 2010/01/01 14:42