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Totally agree with Judygram, might be just her way of expressing her emotions... might be a sound she learned from someone. If this persists for longer times and if you feel she is not comfortable or healthy, the vet will be the best judge

It would be great if you can post a close up photo, so we can see her. Its very smart to keep her in another room, even if the vet confirmed that she is healthy, better to keep her in quarantine and to always wash your hands between your birds. As you might know, greys do not show symptoms of sickness, they hide it until they reach a point where they are so sick, they cant hide it anymore... so dont be tricked by the looks... going back to plucking issue, I hope you might be able to reverse this habbit, it will take a lot of patience, love and trust between you two. Her having moved homes frequently has sure added up to her stress, so hopefully your home is her home for many many years. Her feeling of security will surely help. I advise you also to keep her very busy with wooden and foraging toys. The busier she is, the less time she will find to pluck. Also the vet will be able to tell you if the plucking is behavioral or if there is any medical reason for it. Sometimes a certain defficiency will be the cause, so the avian vet is the right person to advise you on this. Again I remind you to keep her out of sight of your other grey Timneh, as you dont want her to start learning plucking from her. They tend to catch habits and learn from each other much faster than they can learn from fellow humans... For the bath, I know that you have to bathe her as frequently as she likes. The more moist her skin, the less irritated it is and hopefully this leads to less plucking. Aloe vera bathing spray has been recommended by many members. I havent tried it with Kookie, as he hates sprays, and enjoys his own bath bowl, but many members use & recommend it. Last I would ask you about her diet, what she eats, as this will make a great difference in her health. Hope she enjoys lots of freshies & pellets as I know this is the right food for them. I would not attempt to make huge change in her diet immediately though, just give her some time to get used to her new surroundings and to adjust to you. Again, the vet would give you the best advice and of course other members in our grey family... Looking forward for photos and more news...

Its great that you pass the news around. Let the vet & petshop in your area know as well cos someone might find him and bring him in. If you can also notify the local radio station, maybe they can announce it. I wish I lived closer so that I would come & help. My heart and prayers stay with you. Be patient and keep looking... Im sure you will celebrate having him back soon... stay positive, it makes a difference believe me... keep the food and water & cage in an open place next to your home in the last place you saw him... maybe he is still there hiding somewhere around. He will find you, im sure...

Stay strong Paul, be strong for him, he needs you now... get help if you can, the more people, the more eyes. He is probably, tired, hungry & thirsty, wouldnt fly distances now... keep looking... my prayers with you...

thats very funny...ive seen it before... but still I laughed till I cracked, especially about the conservation part...lol

love the photos.... you can run, but can never hide from your parrots... dont we just love how they share our lives.... cant emagine life without my Kookie...thanks for sharing

Lovely pic... so cute...well greys arent bad either...they can be naughty little monkeys at times...lol...loved the energizer bunny thing...guess they need to use a parrot next time...never stop moving or talking...lol

Keep the faith Paul, stay strong, you will find him hopefully. Get some kids from around neighborhood to help you look... Just instruct them not to freighten him if they see him. Keep calling.... all my thoughts with you....

I think we are obsessed by our greys..... we never fail to bring them up in any sort of conversation....class, work, friends.... I even bring parrot stuff up in my classes with my students (Sophomore class) ... they love it

This is so interesting...I love the comparison... Ive taken 3 psychology cources as well , 2 of which are child psychology and early child education and wow the similarities are amazing. As for the mirror thing, im not sure its about age for greys. Ive had a baby grey (10 weeks old) that was so smart that when i first introduced her to a mirror, she went around the mirror behind, to check where is the other grey, in a short while, she was recognizing her own image. How could I tell: well i just came from behind her with a grape, in front of the mirror... first time she went to the mirror to get the grape... next time she turned around to my hand and got her grape... i repeated this later on to see where she would go to get the peanut, again she turned back to my hand and got her peanut.... still she was very happy to play with her own image in the mirror... bobbing her head and beaking her image.... Now with Kookie, who is almost 6 years, he still loves mirrors. Put the mirror away and he might think its another grey (just like the ones he watches excitedly on my laptop screen). Put the mirror close to him and he will play for a while then get bored with his own image... funny and so cute.... Give him a small mirror to play with.... no no thats too dangerous... he will attack it like his life depends on it and then Im afraid he will break it and get himself wounded... so its either a big wall mirror under my supervision... or nothing...lol

oh thats very cute.... Im glad that you were there for him... cant emagine how those little fids manage to get themselves into trouble very easily. Im glad he had you next to him at the time.... post some pix, we wanna see the new baby...

I am very much interested in the replies of expert members as well.. but I think this behaviour is related to jealousy. Greys are like little kids, who cant express jealousy except in their own way. I guess this coupled with a lousy towel / nail trim / broken feather experience... has caused some trusst loss with you. I think you have to re-gain your greys trust. Dont be so serious with clicker training and stuff... just spend time with your grey, have fun, show excitement to see him, laugh with him, give him treats... let him be interested in you again, let him come to you on his own.... thats the best I could say, and I look forward to other members' replies.

Hi, I cannot help on this matter, as my knowledge is very limited, but just wanted to say be careful. Greys copy each others behaviors easily, so you dont want your healthy timneh to copy plucking from the new grey (Im not 100 % sure about this, but better be safe than sorry). I hope other expert members can benefit you more on this. For the time being, dont keep them in the same room of possible, until you get some expert members' feedback...

We want more...this video is so cute, I love the way he laughs...amazing... very amusing

Welcome to our grey family and we look forward to more posts and pictures...

so cute the way they lined up for the photo...adorable

Quite an amazing fellow, so cute. Dont worry his beak color is quite normal. Please take care when u take him along with you and when he meets new people. At this very young age, they are very prone to catching bacteria. Make sure that anybody who handles him or feeds him, wash their hands thoroughly. Make sure that anything he plays with is well cleaned, and even sterilized is better. I would advise to boil the utensils you use in feeding him and keep them in the freezer to maintain their cleanliness until you use them. His perches and toys should also be very thoroughly cleaned ( I used to boil them for few minutes). Just wanted to point your attention to this as those young sweet hearts are just like human babies, having very low immunity. It will take a while to build his immunity, mainly after the first year of age. Have fun...

too cute to be true...what a smart guy...loved the thread and thanks for sharing...

They do look normal to me. Is Dayo a CAG or a TAG. Ive seen several greys, mostly TAGS with light color nostrils and beak. Nothing wrong with that. Some of them have a bone color (much lighter color) and it is pretty normal. Whats important to check is any discharge form nostrils or if the nostrils are ever blocked. In this case, check with an avian vet. Otherwise I dont see anything wrong with Dayo. He looks pretty awesome and lovely to me... post more pix when you can

I just finished reading all the comments in this thread and the other threads that you started. I really wish you and your baby all the best. I just wanted to add a comment. You have to be very careful with hygiene issues. Bacteria can easy contaminate food or utensils used. I was advised by a vet to when I had a baby parrot to sterilize everything in boiling water and after that to keep stuff in the freezer until I use them. I have used a baby bottle sterilizer at the time for the syringes and for the spoons and it worked fine. make sure that you boil the towels you use around him when you wash them. and that you wash his aquarium with boiling water every few days.Later on you have to do the same with perches. Cleanliness is the most important and you cannot use any disinfectant as they might be poisonous. Also make sure your hands are really well scrubbed before cooking or feeding or handling him. It will be difficult for a while but hopefully he will grow very healthy. As for the weight, Im no expert, but I would say that 500 gr is really a good weight as some adult greys weigh less. I am not an expert either, but was thinking that you can prepare some food yourself to feed along side the feeding formula. Something made of mashed apples, boiled carrots, peas, broccoli, corn... fresh stuff. When I had a baby grey (12 weeks old) the vet recommended Harrisons and the baby grey loved it. Check the link http://www.harrisonsbirdfoods.com/Juvenile-Handfeeding-Formula/products/4/ all the best and keep us posted... by the way I love the videos you posted... your grey is so cute

With Kookie and to get him interested in any toy, I take it and play with it in front of him. This arouses his interest. I have also read that they watch our body language when we introduce a new toy. So to make him feel safe and comfortable with it, it helps if im smiling and talking to the toy in a loving pleasant way. It also helps if I bring the toy near my face and mouth. Normally the moment I put it down, he runs to investigate it. If that doesn't work, I attach a couple of peanuts to it, hang it somewhere accessible for him and this surely makes him interested. Kookie also loves colored straws, so if he is not excited by a new toy (sometimes he is a bit scared to come near it) I tie some colored cut straws on it and his eyes start to spark.... that gets him for sure.

this is really cool...love it, and seems they are enjoying it to the max too...so lucky to have all those toys...

wow so lovely.... thanks for the great pix... your fids seem to have a great time outdoors...

yup, totally agree... just like you wouldnt get a baby, because babies have cute smiles... its a lot more than that... its about responsibility & commitment for so many years to come...

She is such a darling cutie.... ooops sure your life has changed... as of now, you are officially owned by your EVA..... Love the photos, post some more when you can...