KC, why don't you contact avianbiotech.com and have Phoenix dna tested and then you will know for sure. They are both very nice looking greys. I hope Taluha stops plucking. Karma to you for taking in an older grey. Oh, have you introduced yourself in the Welcome Room so everyone can get to know you and say hi?<br><br>Post edited by: luvparrots, at: 2009/08/10 18:48