GorgASS have you directed your neighbor to the Forum? It might be just as hard to get her grey from the ground/floor if he is clipped and slides down. Perhaps she could save his favorite treats for when he comes to her. I know if I say "Want a treat, come here" to Ana Grey she comes to me ASAP, little greedy piggy that she is!!!:laugh: I hope your neighbor will at least let you help her get her grey down from the cabinets. This makes me very sad, I hope a better solution is found. Please let us know what happens. Karma to you for trying.