Talon

I am stunned that there are humans without a BRAIN....!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:evil:

petrea, Please put a listing here, someone may see it and contact you. http://www.infosuperflyway.com/articles/lostparrot.php

Okay everyone...... if you did a search here, you would see that almost every topic regarding wing clipping results in the same way. Members feel very passionate about their decision regarding whether to CLIP OR NOT TO CLIP. but what many forget during the heated debate, is that everyone is entitled to give their advice, opinions, and feelings on the subject. That does not make your way right or wrong. You do what is best in your situation. We may or may not agree, but arguing your point home is useless. Please read the past threads about this subject and you will see my point. I have been watching this thread very intently, and have decided it is time.....I AM LOCKING THIS THREAD FOR A COUPLE OF DAYS UNTIL THINGS COOL DOWN. Lets put our focus into enjoying our time here in other subjects. B) Sincerely, Talon

DAN!! I love you earlier reply. I COMPLETELY agree with what you wrote. We think so much alike when it comes to our pets.:kiss: And I understand that your post was not meant to hurt or insult anyone's feelings. After being a member of this family with 8511 posts, we all know better!! We better....or else, Judy will give us a whipping!! :laugh:

If you do a search here, you will find both sides saying Yes, their safe, and no they are not. My rule of thumb is to err on the side of caution. I don't allow my birds to play with them because of the worry of glue, just in case....you never no where some companies try to cut costs by buying out of the country a cheaper unsafe glue to save $$. Just my opinion...B)

CONGRATULATIONS CAROL!!! I am so happy and proud of you! At 48 years old, I became a Certified Fitness Trainer, and am in total believe about living a healthier lifestyle! I don't live in Houston, but would love to see it on the internet. Could you please post a link here so we can see you? I am very interested in the how, whats and why's of your success!

harmonicaman68, That is such a cool idea! I too work in an office in my hoem, I would love to be in a cage with my computer where my 2 greys couldn't chew my cords and keyboard....!!:blink:

Where did you read this article? I think it's (in Judy's words) :laugh: a bunch of bull! I am sure others here will have other opinions.

One other note, most greys will expect to eat when you eat, regardless of their own food. But you will find that when they are in their cage and your not around, they will indulge themselves. IT takes time to establish a routine with them, especially when it's a bird that has been passed around so to speak. Rikki is still learning and adapting to us, even after all this time we are still learning from each other! So, be patient, and enjoy these times!!

amerrie: I adopted a 2 year old grey named Rikki, a little over a year ago. She tried to do the very same thing to me, especially if I drank anything. I contacted her first owner (I am her third and last) and she told me she would put water in her mouth and let Rikki drink out of her mouth!! :ohmy: :ohmy: The previous owner thought it was a pretty neat and okay to do! I had problems with Rikki diving into my mouth when ever I put anything into it. After I realized what she was trying to do, I watched her like a hawk every time I would eat or drink, and always turn away from her, and make a hmph sound, or put my hand up over my mouth and tell her NO! Then I would give her what ever I had out of my hand and praise her. Sometimes I would give her a bite first or second so she had no reason to try and get some from me. It's been a year and a half, and it is rare when she tries this, mostly when I try to drink out of a glass or bottle, so I put her down and turn away from her. It took a many many times, and being very consistent about it, but she no seems to understand and not try it.

This will be interesting...I have 2 greys both 4 years old, and so far, other than the terrible two's, they are just as active, but I realize that are still quite young. B)

B) I agree Jayd, 2 are great! But it is two times the work, attention, love...but you get back MORE than two times in return from the enjoyment they give you!

Didn't you find someone previously, that traded your Pomeranians for an African Grey....that's what you posted....In fact you said it happened here by one of our members within in just a few hours.....Please set the record straight. What happened to that bird?<br><br>Post edited by: Talon, at: 2009/08/19 15:25

What a wonderful idea Char! Karma for you!! :woohoo: :woohoo:

I agree with Char, to be on the safe side, I don't give them to my birds either. B)

THAT IS NOT TRUE!!!! My vet charged me $10, took out some heavy duty snippers, had the nurse hold my bird gently in a towel, and in the blink of any eye, made 2 snips and it was off. Rikki never knew what happened. painless and harmless. Get a new vet! This one doesn't know what they are talking about. I have heard that some say you have to put the bird under.....if your vet says it's harmful, then they don't have any avian experience.

Doesn't playing in soil increase the risk of ASPERGILLOSIS for our birds? :huh:

My vet removed Rikki's solid band and kept her info in tact. He also said he has heard and seen many tragic accidents where the bird was injured because of the bands. Even tho I was very careful, there are always those freak accidents that you can't for see. Imagine what could happen if your bird did manage to escape outside and got his band caught on a branch or something else.....:ohmy:

Oh yea,he still loves you, and is hoping to win you back. I have been separated for 2 years, and divorced, but he still keeps trying...even tho I am happier than I have ever been. In my case, and I feel all men are this way, there are underlying strings attached no matter what. Keep it, don't wear it, and use it when you need to.

WOW! What a list Dan! I wouldn't be concerned that they won't be able to say their names. My first grey, Talon refused to say her name for the first 2 years, now BOTH my greys say their names all the time, in fact, they say each others names, their own names, my dog's name, and my new kitten whose name is Dominic, and both birds can say it clear as day! B)

I'm curious....Why would you want to band your greys leg. Most owners have it removed for safety reasons. Many birds have lost a foot due to the band getting caught on a toy, etc. I had my grey's band removed when she was 2 for those reasons.

Aww. I am so sorry to hear this Char. My sympathy to you and your family.

Phew...thanks Judy! Stupid me.....:pinch:

It is 21-23 degrees IN your house? :ohmy: Doesn't the water etc. freeze.....I think I'm missing something...:pinch:

Welcome Back! WE have missed you! I can't wait to hear more from you. B)