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I am so glad this sweet little bird is now in safe caring hands.

I hope the grey gets home soon.

My two love the showers in the kitchen sink.

Hairdressers love them because you spend a fortune getting the grey hairs covered that they cause.

I had a nice lie in, well a lie in for me that is,7.30.

Lenny is one handsome grey. I too love his colouring.

Shona please dont beat yourself up.These tragedies can happen and sometimes we have no way of preventing them.As for another grey thats your decision when and if the time vomes,as Judy said it is a great way to honour a lost friend.Joey will always remain dear to you no matter what.Another grey may also help you get those horrific images out of your mind.For now though please try and look forward,we are all hear when you want us.

aw so cute.Little Mocha really is not too sure yet though.

oh no. Just be sure never to go down to Harvey or talk to him if he is doing this or it will happen every day.

Firstvets Forest Hall Newcastle upon Tyne, 81 Station Road Forest Hall Newcastle upon Tyne Tyne and Wear NE12 8AQ Tel:- 0191 266 6286 Firstvets Heaton 373 Chillingham Road Heaton Newcastle Tyne and Wear NE6 5SB Tel:-0191 276 1064 I am not sure if these will help

I know what you mean Jill,my vet is an avian vet but does not list himself,has no need to,word of mouth is enough. The one listed by me as avian referes patiants to my vet,silly I know. I will look round for you but where exactly are you.

Jubilee Vet Centre, 3 Jubilee Road, Newtownards, BT23 4YH, Michael Griffiths, Tel:- 02891 812226, Fax :- 02891 812040 Ashley Veterinary Clinic, 206a Lisburn Road, Belfast, CoAntrim, BT15 2HF, Mr Robin Collins, BA, MVB, MRCVS, Tel :-01232 659807 Cedarmount Veterinary Clinic, 67 Bryansburn Road Bangor, Co Down NI BT20 3SD Tel: 01247 271364 Veterinary Hospital, Kilmantain Place, Co Wicklow. Tel:-01272 3857 I hope this is of help to you

I hope I did not come across too harsh in my first post,it was not my intention.We are all willing to help in any way we can.Can I suggest a few books that may help you.One is For the love of greys by Bobbi Brinker.Also try and get a copy of The african grey handbook by Mattie Sue Athen.If you can read some of Barbera Heidenrichs work you will get excellent views on positive reinforcement.

This poor boat has got to be called Titanic.

Charlie mimics the seagulls and magpies,not too often though im glad to say.

Janet that was so cute.Ana Grey loves being misted,she is twirling with happiness.

I love Simons new home and Wayne his new neighbour is adorable,I love tiels.

I am glad Scarlett has settled a bit.As you are going to the vets,mention the egg binding questin,he/she will advise.It may also be worth mentioning her out of character behaviour. I hope all goes well at the vets,please let us know how you get on.

If he is allowing head scratches it should not be too hard.Try luring him on to your hand with a treat. Hold the hand you wish him to go on to in front of him and offer him a treat with the other hand just in front of it so he must step on to your hand to get the treat.Dont move your hand at first as this may scare him,just hold ot still. Once he is fine with this you can then move your hand slowly so you can carry him on your hand.If this does not work ask him to step onto a stick using the same treat method,gradually moving your hand closer.

I have used Gregs techniques and ideas and find them very very good. He gave me some advise when I first got Charlie and it has served us well.I have a couple of his books that I pull out and give myself reminders when I need.I have also been working with Cracker over the summer and he is now far more manageable when out of his cage,so it works for little winged demons aswell.<br><br>Post edited by: she, at: 2009/10/23 00:02

Please please dont ever punish your grey in any way,they just dont get it. It just teaches them humans do nasty things to them,I cant think of anything worse than putting a social, sensitive grey in a bath tub,I am sorry but this really upsets me.I have a feeling thats why your grey wants to be alone,he has lost all trust in you.

Never punish a grey in any way,it does not work .The screaming has started for a reason as Dan said.Go over the routine you have and look for any changes or have you introduced anything new into the greys environment,cage or your home. Greys can be scared of the most obscure things,my grey took fright when I put a new picture in the living room. Have you placed new toys in the cage or changed your appearance.Please think of any changes at all and treat your grey with sympathy,something may be wrong.

I am seriously thinking of adopting Tiggs,He is getting so much abuse.Please let me know when I can pick him up.

Thats the best news,Lily is now well on the mend,well done Greg,karma to you.

Charlie goes on his own to where he wants,usually somewhere he is not ment to be :lol: He is quite independant.