Sallas

I wish I knew people in my area that had birds for me to do that with. I was looking for a bird club in my area too, but have not had any luck.

Yes, Thorn is quite a bit larger also, and he has more red factor than Saphira does (they both have red factor)well, i can instantly tell them just by their manorisms..

Saphira was playing pick up the button and run and drop it on the floor to see how many times Daddy will get it for me. My parents were over at the house and Thorn was keeping my Mother company while I chased Saphira and her buttons Post edited by: Sallas, at: 2009/01/09 19:12<br><br>Post edited by: Sallas, at: 2009/01/09 19:13

And here is Thorn.

I have some Christmas pictures of Saphira and Thorn. Saphira <br><br>Post edited by: Sallas, at: 2009/01/09 19:07

i wish all we saw was 48 degrees.. I have seen negative 80!!

Greys are known for bonding strongly to one person, it sounds like he is bonded to you.

I have an open cage yet, I would like to add a rehomed CAG to my flock, but there is no set time frame, i think when I find the bird in need, I will be expanding.

i do not think that hers are the norm as it is pretty widely said that they should not be pets, but i would rather (if I were to breed my two greys) that they be handlable. Also as I do not feel it is right to take a bird from the wild to keep it locked in a cage, mine are pets. If they do breed in the future as they are paired, then I will address it, but i do not think they will as (well right now they are a year old) but their cage will not have a breeder box.

my breeder has a few pairs of "breeding" greys that are tame, in fact when they are not breeding she has them out and they are very well trained. Now i have also heard that breeding greys are not pets, but ihave also personally seen hers that are.

I feel really bad for my fiancee. She is a bird person and really oves our greys. But, I have just always had a way with animals that they just trust me and come to me, i seem to always know what they want. It really shocks my fiancee;s son, when i ask him to check the basement because one of the cats is "telling" me that the other is locked in the basement, and when he opens the basement door, there is the cat staring at him. So when we got our first grey "Saphira", she bonded to me instantly, even though my fiancee was the one giving her formula. Then we decided to get a second and i was really hoping that Thorn would bond with her, but it is not looking like that is the case. I cannot help it that animals are drawn to me for some unknown reason. Maybe they can just sense that i am an animal lover and would not hurt them, not that she would hurt them either.

This got to me so much, tha I contacted the breeder that I use to see if she had any advice for you. She said to contact the Humaine Society or other animal rights organization in your area. I sur hope this breeder gets what is coming to them. There should be a license needed to breed parrots and before you can get that license, there should be testing and yearly aviary inspections.

I have two TAGs and got very luckly. They pretty much loved eachother from when they first met. They are very good company for eachother when I am at work and such.

All I know is that the breeder I go to is not a pet shop, but she told us that she had to prove that all o the birds in her aviary are free of disease in order to get some sort of license that she had to have. Maybe that was an Ohio thing as she is in Ohio.

This story really is getting to me. One of my greys till has his band and this is seriously making me think of having it (the band) cut off. I have heard many staories about how dangerous those bands can be. I am so sorry for your loss. I do not know what I would do if that happend to Saphira or Thorn. Saphira had to have part of one of her back toes amputated and she is much better now than before we had that part of her toe removed.

All off my birds have come from the same breeder, which is an out of state breeder. ou can ask if their aviary is certified. Many aviaryies need to be certified that they are free of disease and such. You could ask if she has previous clients that are willing to talk with you. I live in Wisconsin and got all of my babies (and my in-laws quaker) from a breeder in Cincinnati, Ohio. We drove to get them from the breeder so that she could show us around the aviaryand teach us anything we would need to know. She was amazing and we still talk every now and them. She was not a breeder that once you buy the bird, she has no contact with you. In fact she loves to hear how the birds are doing and is always willing to answer questions.

Bring your snowshoes to Wisconsin, we are having A LOT of snow and freezing rain.

I think most Sun Conures act that way, we have two and WOW can they get into to trouble together.

One of our cats could not care less about the birds, but our female cat gets very jealous when Daddy spends time with the birds, she comes over and tries to lay on them so she gets the attention instead of them.

We actually still give both of our greys formula every once and a while so they stay used to it. If they get sick, it is an easy way to give them meds and it is healthy for them. Also, I am sure your vet knows best. Sometimes baby grey will regress after leaving the breeders, and go back to formula for a short time. Timmy will tell you when he is ready for regular food. Our famale TAG just loves when she gets formula, she gets so excited, she usually ends up covered in formula, she loves formula so much, I think she tries to take a bath in it.<br><br>Post edited by: Sallas, at: 2008/12/04 22:26

Yeah Dan, my Girlfriend uses that with me all the time

I see you are in Cincinnati. That is where I have gotten all of my birds from. The breeder we always deal with is in a suberb of Cincinnati. We drive from Wisconsin to there to get our birds. At this point we know her so well and she knows us that I could not imagine going to another breeder. I Wish I lived closer, I would give you a ride to go see your bird. I love meeting new birds anyway. Seeing how other people handle their birds has given me ideas for better ways for me to do things with my birds.

I think I agree with Talon on this one. Both of those animals are so easily spooked, I think that would be a disaster waiting to happen. To answer your question, I travel with my grey quite often. I have two travel cages that I use. When we go back home to visit my parents, I have another full size cage at my parents house...I call it my birds vacation home... But anyway, My travel cages are made 100% of clear plastic (well the front has a metal cage type door), so the birds can see what is going on around them. So fat tey both like going for rides in the car. Once I get them seat belted in and we get on the road, I will pull the blanket (I always travel with a cover as birds can get car sick also, and covering their cage will help that)off of their travel cages so they can see me.

Well, I am disabled and am a animal lover. I have always taken it very hard when my animals have passed on, so hard that for many years I did not have a pet because I knew I could not take it when they did pass on. I had a few birds growing up and have always wanted a parrot. I did lots of research as to what breed of parrot would fit best with me and my lifestyle. I chose the African Grey because they are so intelligent, live many years, bond very closely with their human care givers, they are not extremely loud birds (no where near the loudness of our sun conures). I think a few of what many think to be negatives of the breed and parrots in general, were positives to me. Now, if my birds end up being good talkers, that is a bonus, they are already starting very well. I do not have any kids of my own, and my birds have filled that spot for me. I have been disabled for almost 8 years now and felt that it was not fair for me to bring children into this world in my condition. I cannot do many of the things that a father should do with their child. But, I can provide the parrots with an excellent quality of life, and they do not judge me or my disability.

I am guess it is the strength on their wing/breast muscles. As they have never flown, those muscles are not in the condition they should be in. Well that is my guess anyway.