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Indeed!!!{Communicate-00020110}

Yes you are, Kitty, a fine example of a parront, and the standard by which all prospective bird owners should have to follow. Most people would just jump in and get the bird and then research how to take care of it.:huh:

Well, Tatee, we have a bird convert, you are finding out what we have known for a long time, and isn't it wonderful. They are very intelligent and now you wish you had found them a long time ago. I am so happy for you and you be sure to keep us informed of any new developments.

Patience is your best friend right now, you cannot rush it, it takes time to form the bond, and it will be worth it when it happens, so give it some time and keep us informed.:cheer: :cheer: :cheer:

You have such nice photos, Heather, and you have a beautiful grey, good job. Josh, the unkempt and unshaven look is rather endearing, so don't worry about it, fergetaboutit.:cheer:

I've had those, heck I still have some.{Feel-bad-00020072}

I wanted to bring this thread back to life for Lidia. I have a few recipes that I want to try and I will and I will post a pic of it when I make something. Come on now guys and gals, get busy and make something good for your sweetie and give us the recipe so we can make it for our sweetie.{Love-000200C5}

I don't where he got that idea, do you? LOL:laugh: Wait until you have your grey, then you will really be obsessed or possessed, I don't know which.:woohoo:

That is a good one, Dan, sounds like a good signature line doesn't it.{Feel-good-000200BB}

Dan is right as usual, DNA is the only way.:side:

Way to go Dan, good advice, I may need to visit that site myself, sounds like it has some good information in it, thanks for the link.

I think we all make a great team, what do you think, SWEET.{Feel-good-000200BB}

I am assuming she is a little scared of Montie, and if she is, Montie is picking up on that, they can read our emotions and act accordingly. Does she show hesitation on trying to come close to Montie, and if she tries to pick him up and he goes to bite her does she pull back? If she does he knows she is afraid and he knows he is in control, all he has to do is bite her and she goes away, he's running the show, so to speak. She may need to back off for a while and try to work on not hesitating to follow thru when she goes to pick him up. When she does try to pick him up, she shouldn't pull back and if the bite comes then push into it, I know it will hurt but it may be the only way to get him to stop it. When he finds out that the bite is not going to make her go away he may stop biting her.

Well hello, MrSpock, you have 3 nice looking greys there and it is wonderful how the three of them get along and are bonded to you and your wife. You are lucky in that because a lot of us don't have that kind of environment. You and your wife are very special people who love their birds and understand how individuals they are but get along well together. Maybe you should share some of your secrets with us, I'm sure you could tell us lots we don't know. Thanks for sharing the pics with us and it looks like the pictures on the wall depict birds as well.

When you tried to trim the nails did you cut too far back and hurt him, that would account for the terror? They don't take too kindly to someone who inflicts pain on them. You said you got them, both greys I assume, in December of 2006? You have not had them long, maybe they did not bond with you properly and if they are caged together they will bond to each other and not with you. But I think your problem has to do with the attempted nail clip. You will have to try to make friends with him again and he may not accept you and you will have to learn to live with that if necessary. Sampson, could you give us a little more background information on the two birds you have and your home situation so we are able to give you some answers to your questions. I feel your pain, but maybe we can help you in some way.

And you are probably right, that is why we have so many warnings on everything anymore, those people who won't take responsibility for their own actions.:ohmy:

You are right, Lidia, back off or suffer the consequences.

And I assume he enjoys that warm water too, LOL, what we do for our greys. Don't worry, I never thought you would give him hot, hot water, just curious. Thanks for the reply.

How old is Montie, and how long have you had him? Has anything changed in the household lately? I need a little more information before I try to help you if you don't mind.

Josey will kind of make grumpy like sounds sometimes when I move her around and also they click their upper and lower beaks together that makes that knocking sound, so that may be normal. We will see what some of the others think. Some greys are territorial about their cages, and I wouldn't force him out of it, leave the door open and let him come out on his own, and then maybe he will be a little more receptive of you. The body language varies from bird to bird and you just have to observe yours and determine what he is saying to you from that. But the fluffing up usually indicates aggression, and pay attention to the eyes, if pinning be careful, a bite may be coming.

Lidia, may I ask why you give Joshua hot water in the morning?

RobertsKitty wrote: My Josey does that and I didn't train her to do it, I guess it is instinctive for them to push you away if they don't want you picking them up at that moment.

Then you need to take her to places where she get to socialize with other people, the more the better. If you have a lot of people come into your house then you might try introducing her to them and that helps also. Don't force her on other people but show her it is ok to be around other people and have them hold her or stroke her neck. If you could take her with you occasionally to work that would help also, I do that myself when I can.

Kitty, if this is what you want, then it will work out, believe me, I should know, 57 years has taught me that for sure.

Sampson, what happened in your household in February to make him become phobic, they usually react to some kind of change. Give us a little more information and maybe we can help you.