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Oops, after reading this yet again, I'm not sure they are in a covered patio where they can fly if their instincts kick in......if they are not, then I second what Jayd said even more......just MY opinion tho, after all, they are YOUR birds. I hope and pray they are as safe as possible. After all, that YOUR job as their loving PARRONT.

Jshendrix: Your post regarding Jayd's comment was uncalled for. I agree wholeheartedly with what he wrote. My heart went in my throat when I saw the photo of your 3 beautiful birds outside like that. We have been on this forum for so long, and we have experienced the heart wrenching that goes on time and time again from members distraught over losing their "clipped" birds because they are ignorant to the fact that a "clipped" bird can get swept up in a breeze especially when startled. Just refer back to Dan's post. If you had clearly stated in the beginning that they were in an enclosed area, perhaps our hearts would have stopped beating in our throats. We had no way of knowing that they were safely outside........Please see it from an outsiders position not knowing the full story as you left out a few details....no hard feelings please, just understanding. We LOVE all the birds here on the forum and want nothing but the best for them. The pictures are beautiful by the way. 3 Lovely birds, you are lucky and blessed.

Hi Dan... Yeah but any germ or disease on planet earth can not and does not survive in WATER with pH 2.6 or lower. It is DEAD in less then 30 seconds. Now I am not disputing that there exists caustic chemicals that can kill microbes.. There certainly are.. but there are much better and safer approaches too. I don't pay for any of this. It cost me just 2 cents a gallon to make. Of course it does cost to buy the machine but I did that for the health benefits to me and my family. The acid water is a "freebie" so to speak. Anyone interesting in learning more please don't hesitate to PM me. I really don't want to start a long drawn out debate here in this thread. I'm sure the OP understands.

I have to chime in on this thread..... the absolute BEST cleaner, disinfectant, sanitizer, sterilizer is 2.5 Acid water. This is the only thing I use on all my tree stands, playstands, cages, toys, etc. NOTHING cleans better. I spray it on, let it sit for a minute and wipe clean. 2.5 acic water is used in hospitals, hotels, used by doctors instead of soap when washing their hands to prep for surgery as it is antibacterial, etc. it kills all bacteria, e.coli, mrsa, and salmonella. There is no harm to my birds. no fumes, no chemicals, just water! I highly recommend it for any one!

OH!!! I LOVE it!!! So nice to see all your family of feathered kids. Thanks Jay, nice of you to do for us to enjoy!

Hi everyone! Please look at the new banner in my posts. It is from a new site called Pets Are Top. It is a brand new site designed by the owners of Greyforums. I think you will find it fun! I have found it to be very easy to work with, and a fun idea to share your pets with everyone. Please click on the Check my Pets on the bottom of my banner. It will take you directly to Pets are Top page and you can make your own banner and add info about your pets if you desire. It only took me a few minutes to make! Very user friendly!!

I have always believed that all living things have feelings and understand death. As sad as this is, Thank you for sharing this heartbreaking testament.It is what us bird owners always knew...

Aww.....Happy Birthday Tee! 16 years old....wow! Nice that your dad loves you enough to get you shrimp for your birthday!

Love it!! Thanks for sharing with us.

Nilah loves a coconut with a hole in it. I stuff it with all kinds of toy bits from old toys, all shapes and sizes. I bought it pre made and it hangs in her cage. She loves it and empties it out daily. Thanks for the suggestions Jay!!

Jay and Diego, I have to agree with you both. Nilah seems to fly only as a last resort. She would rather climb, yell "BIRD!" when looking for me..then when I won't come get her, she finally decides to fly and find me. My greys don't bother calling. they just take off flying elegantly around the house until they hear a noise that might be me, then they are off and they ALWAYS find me!! Meanwhile, Nilah is still screaming "BIIIRRDDD!!!"""""

Okay, Diego has come up with an interesting observation. One I think needs more discussion from some Amazon owners. Do those of you with Amazons, find that they prefer to fly in straight lines rather than twists and turns like our greys do? I haven't found this, but Nilah is still learning and not as fluent as my greys yet. She twists and changes direction in mid flight to land where she chooses. I would be curious to know what others find in their homes. :cool:

I find it interesting that you say Amazons prefer to fly in a straight line so to speak. I had never heard that before. MAybe Jay and the others will chime in on this.....My amazon, Nilah does twists and turns, changes directions...but not as fluently as my greys do. I attribute this to the fact that she is still learning and flaps her little wings off trying to get where she is going. It's hard work for her still, but hopefully one day she will be as relaxed about it as my grey are. They flew alot like her when they were first learning to fly with those new wings too! Hmm sounds like the start of a new thread......ok...I'm on it!

Beautiful bird...

I think so...they are smarter than anyone knows.......

OMG!!!! I am SO excited for you Janet! I KNEW this day would come for you......Jayd said it best...YES!!!!! WOO HOO! Welcome to the Amazon club! You will do fine, I find amazons less work than greys.

Congratualtions!! Nilah is now flying, more to come on that later! Having my 3 flying is a beautiful way to experience life with a parrot!! I feel blessed everyday when I see them flying thru my house looking for me...

Thank you Jayd for being you and doing all you can to help. This member has a difficult road ahead and I feel better knowing you are there to take their hand and help......

Is he lost, or was he stolen? I hope you find him real soon, never give up? Is he flighted, banded, micro-chipped?

I second this quote...

I have deleted the links to donate $$ to for the time being. But Dan received his reply from Irene and posted it as I was deleting the links. I am certain that he will appear again and ask for more donations with the links. I personally, would rather my money go to a worthier cause for rescue league for birds in need, not a movie that others will profit off of.

How sad......I am heartbroken for you. But Vree will always be remembered for the strong hero he was to work so hard at healing and surviving the ordeal that he did while still staying so happy. That's thanks to you and your love, care and compassion for him. My thoughts and prayers.

I have had problems with one of my birds and the stove. After cooking, I put the pan back on with some water in it ubtil the stove cools down. I also put scarey things like big mit pot holders around the edges that they are scared off and won't venture towards them.

Yes, Tarm is correct! Hay is very dusty, moldy, fertilized with chemicals, put thru very dirty hay equipment etc. Many smaller animals pee & poop on it in the field. Last summer we had to put one of horses down as she had been suffering from EPS which is a horribly debilitating disease that they can get from possum droppings most likely brought in from the hay....Birds have such delicate respiratory systems. Keep them away from the hay for this reason and the ones Dave advised on. He is quite right as well.