Greywings

What fun to find that out!

You have shown a kind heart and started on the right path to a successful relationship with Sueki. Thank you for getting him or her out of there and into your care.

What fun! Happy times for sure.

Always good to hear of progress on the healing and health of your Grey. Good on you for taking the extra step to find some help in difficult circumstances.

That forms a great visual in my brain, so Too like.

Please let us know what the Vet discovers.

Wow slowing down on the bad aid s are we? Good for all! Oliver is getting brave indeed and I think Gabby is just helping magnify the power of the broom.

Every one is pointing you in a great direction but please remove the mite powder container if these birds have some damage from poor diet , cigarette smoke and lack of Sunlight then the mite power (a toxin) is more dangerous to their health than the possibility of doing any good. PLEASE GIVE US SOME UPDATES ON THEIR PROGRESS AND WHAT THE VET DISCOVERS. Great job taking them into your heart and home and wonderful you are making their lives a happier experience.

Tragic and very sad. Sick minds and twisted thoughts have affected peoples lives in a bad way. My heart goes out to those who have suffered loss of family members and to those who will have to overcome loss of limbs and all those injured. What a great response by other people and emergency service personal who came to the aid of the injured and shocked. That willingness to step in and make a difference is what does make us human and give us hope. Acapella let your brother know how you felt, maybe some healing will come out of this tragedy.

We have Smartee Pants a Timnah who has a similar leg to Gabby except his is turned to the outside rather than inside. He gets around very well, no one told him he has a problematic leg. He can hold food with it, climb all over and chase the other larger birds at our house, little stinker is pugnacious (our little Napoleon).

Great progress on the broom idea, I forgot that they can have some fear avoidance issues that are useful. I have a friend who puts beanie baby animal toys every where her birds shouldn't go, that works for her. Poor Bubba he just has to be so tolerant.

Welcome and I was born in the UK but have lived in the States most of my life so no help here either. Herbie is a very cute name would hope you can post some pics.

It only takes one bad decision or a moment of Panic to have a sad result. We live in Houston Tx so it does get hot and we live with our ceiling fans on most of the year. If the birds are loose then fan is off or on very low.

I am thinking that either a serious talk and time out or an altitude adjustment might be a wise move.

We do have Science working on just that here in the USA, Asia, Africa and South America. Just google the topic. Glad they are getting some of this historic medical knowledge, may help many people as we discover more.

http://www.greyforums.net/forums/newthread.php?do=newthread&f=20 Self-medication in animals much more widespread than believed April 11, 2013 It's been known for decades that animals such as chimpanzees seek out medicinal herbs to treat their diseases. But in recent years, the list of animal pharmacists has grown much longer, and it now appears that the practice of animal self-medication is a lot more widespread than previously thought, according to a University of Michigan ecologist and his colleagues. Ads by Google Go Digging For Dinosaurs - Alberta, Canada is Home to Some of the World's Richest Fossil Beds. - TravelAlberta.us/Dinosaur Animals use medications to treat various ailments through both learned and innate behaviors. The fact that moths, ants and fruit flies are now known to self-medicate has profound implications for the ecology and evolution of animal hosts and their parasites, according to Mark Hunter, a professor in the Department of Ecology and Evolutionary Biology and at the School of Natural Resources and Environment. In addition, because plants remain the most promising source of future pharmaceuticals, studies of animal medication may lead the way in discovering new drugs to relieve human suffering, Hunter and two colleagues wrote in a review article titled "Self-Medication in Animals," to be published online today in the journal Science. "When we watch animals foraging for food in nature, we now have to ask, are they visiting the grocery store or are they visiting the pharmacy?" Hunter said. "We can learn a lot about how to treat parasites and disease by watching other animals." Much of the work in this field has focused on cases in which animals, such as baboons and woolly bear caterpillars, medicate themselves. One recent study has suggested that house sparrows and finches add high-nicotine cigarette butts to their nests to reduce mite infestations. But less attention has been given to the many cases in which animals medicate their offspring or other kin, according to Hunter and his colleagues. Wood ants incorporate an antimicrobial resin from conifer trees into their nests, preventing microbial growth in the colony. Parasite-infected monarch butterflies protect their offspring against high levels of parasite growth by laying their eggs on anti-parasitic milkweed. Ads by Google Glamour Magazine Videos - Watch new Beauty, Fashion, and Fun Videos Inspired by the magazine. - www.youtube.com/GlamourMag Hunter and his colleagues suggest that researchers in the field should "de-emphasize the 'self' in self-medication" and base their studies on a more inclusive framework. "Perhaps the biggest surprise for us was that animals like fruit flies and butterflies can choose food for their offspring that minimizes the impacts of disease in the next generation," Hunter said. "There are strong parallels with the emerging field of epigenetics in humans, where we now understand that dietary choices made by parents influence the long-term health of their children." The authors argue that animal medication has several major consequences on the ecology and evolution of host-parasite interactions. For one, when animal medication reduces the health of parasites, there should be observable effects on parasite transmission or virulence. For example, when gypsy moth caterpillars consume foliage high in certain toxic compounds, transmission of viruses between the caterpillars is reduced, facilitating moth outbreaks. In addition, animal medication should affect the evolution of animal immune systems, according to Hunter and his colleagues. Honeybees are known to incorporate antimicrobial resins into their nests. Analysis of the honeybee genome suggests that they lack many of the immune-system genes of other insects, raising the possibility that honeybees' use of medicine has been partly responsible—or has compensated—for a loss of other immune mechanisms. The authors also note that the study of animal medication will have direct relevance for human food production. Disease problems in agricultural organisms can worsen when humans interfere with the ability of animals to medicate, they point out. For example, increases in parasitism and disease in honeybees can be linked to selection by beekeepers for reduced resin deposition by their bees. A reintroduction of such behavior in managed bee colonies would likely have great benefits for disease management, the authors say. More information: "Self-Medication in Animals," by J.C. de Roode, Science, 2013. Journal reference: Science search and more info website Provided by University of Michigan search and more info website Read more at: http://phys.org/news/2013-04-self-medication-animals-widespread-believed.html#jCp

Macaws require more fatty acids than Greys so more Walnuts and Almonds in his bowl. Most Mac's love a shower so he may be a water baby if he gets a chance.

Multiple Bird Syndrome MBS it slowly causes birds to keep moving into your life. By the way Papa Smurf is lovely.

Remember no chocolate either, maybe an herbal tea like Chamomile bot try to avoid regular tea too much caffeine for a parrot. Other than that she sounds like a happy bird.

Sweet! What works for you both is what is right.

Progress is good but don't rush it. Glad you are finding your way with her.

Charlie is a handsome lad, welcome to you both.

Try chopping the colorful veggies very fine and mixing into her seed feed a smaller amount and give fresh again later in the day. They will taste some of the veggies that stick to the seen and that will help get them interested in new foods. They are sight eaters and only recognize familiar foods as eatable. It will also help if you eat some of the good foods in front of her so she can see it is safe and yummy.

Some symptoms and clinical signs of heavy metal poisoning are: lethargy and depression decreased appetite and weight loss increased thirst abnormal droppings: greenish black in color, blood in droppings, diarrhea weakness/ lack of coordination: falling from perches, inability to fly or walk straight vomiting shivering feather plucking/mutilation seizures Zinc and lead are the two most frequent metals found in a bird’s system, but copper is also toxic and is usually ingested by chewing on electrical wiring and is found in some padlocks. There are many seemingly innocuous things in our homes that contain lead and/or zinc, some of them may surprise you:

If your bird is falling off the perches then there could be a toxin in her body causing the neurological symptoms as well as the self destructive behavior. Heavy Metal Poisoning in Birds: Symptoms and treatment - Avianweb http://www.avianweb.com/heavymetalpoisoningbirds.html