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Dave, I'm sorry I don't completely understand you post. a splayed foot is usually the cause of a incident occurring during the time spent in the nest, [please correct me if I err] A missing or underdeveloped bone is due to genetic of the animal. Example: I have Diabetes, my 1st son did, my 2nd son didn't, other of my family members followed the same course. Or errors in the genes...Is this a genetic. Could you please pass on more info to us.. Thanks Jayd

Sarasota said it best :Quote: If we automatically label something as "clumsy" or "a biter" then we limit the possibilities for change. Unquote.....Her reply is not only from reading but from personal experience with many different types of birds. I enjoy her posts, they never seem to include ego. Thanks Jayd

I'm sorry this has happened to you. No one can make this decision for you, it's a choice you must make. Here's some thoughts, This baby can and will live a good and healthy flightless life , better balance will happen with more time on this earth. This will be no different than a parrot whose wings were clipped before fledgling, we have 2 rescues who this was done too, they'll never fly but both are living a very happy and productive life. There will be things you'll need to do, pad around the cage when the baby is out, Position the cage where the baby can step out onto the playpen or the back of a chair, a wing less bird still desires freedom. If you keep this baby, myself and many members will be more than happy to help you down your road. As far as love goes, a wingless grey has just as much love to give as one with wings. Bless You

Thank you for pointing out my error, I corrected it in the post. I gave the example of the Aracaris but forgot to say the same thing for the Greys. This is a problem with me trying to dictate to Maggie and have her type it, she trys so hard, sorry, I have a slight "Short term Memory Problem". You wouldn't believe the feelings not to be able to see or type what's exactly in your mind when you want to type it...When it gets to bad, I'll leave the posting to Maggie instead of creating errors. Our Spock was never clumsy, Joe is another story lol. Sorry everyone...Jayd

Talons post was correct, it's an Ointment, petroleum base, which is unsafe for birds as Penny stated. I'm back to a point on a day to day basis, Maggie still types for me....Thanks Jayd

Thank you Sarasota, I agree with your general premise, but in some instances, some statements are fact. Like your example, in the case of a Grey, being clumsy is a truth, [iT SHOULD READ:Some or most greys are clumsy] Like your example, "Aracaris are Quiet," is a untruth. It should read, "Some or most Aracaris are quiet.". This is a fact not a label....Thanks, always look forward to you posts...Jayd

Miss-info... Was explained why in early post. Jayd

If I may say so, Greys have a tendency to be less surefooted then most parrots. Greys that were fledged properly sometimes still might remain not as surefooted as others. A Grey is a thinking parrot, they plan their every move before doing anything so each step is a cautious one as opposed to a Zon or other parrots who just "DO". This also goes for rescues, re-homed, old, young..it doesn't matter. They can all have different degrees of clumsiness. This exemplifies the differences of the Greys throughout the entire forum. If you notice in natural habitat videos of our beloved Greys, that is a totally trusted flock environment. Their main concern is foraging and their right eye looking over their shoulders for predators. In all seriousness, though it sounds funny, you'll observe them (Greys) stepping all over each other, and walking aimlessly as they seek their morning or evening meal. Another funny side-note: in all the Greys we fledged compared to other parrots, the size of their feet was not always in proportion to their bodies. Some Greys can't walk without stepping on the toes of their other foot...As far as fledging goes, the Conures have the best method...the male Conure determines when their babies are fledged. They literally kick them out of the nest, either by squawking or shoving...saying "Ready or not baby, you're out of the nest!". Due to this, it's good for perspective Conure owners. A Conure baby does not have to be hand-fed, just socialized because when they are rooted from their nest, the new human owner will be their first flock. Thanks, Jayd

Val, bird house gave you the right advice, it doesn't hurt to have a vet do a check......I've seen this happen but not to often....Jay

Hi, that's greyt, use your Aloe Vera juice a few times a day, Only use pure Aloe , try finding a live Aloe plant at a nursery. At the slightest hint of something not right, make a vet visit.. Pourd of you, you've done a greyt job...Thanks Jayd

Jayd here, Thanks Dan, Val, As I stated , I agree with you, in my opinion, I stick with what I posted. I advised that before trying something new was to seek out advice from someone such as yourself. I didn't say the forum was for newbies only. Regarding "Flowers" I stated ."Flower burning" [essence] not as a food. I promise any further posts or threads I'll clarify myself better. Anyone wishing to PM me for good or bad is welcome to. Thanks all...Jayd

I back Dan 110%, but I'd like to make a statement.. I've studied "Holistic's" for a long time, still do, some of you might have noticed it in some of my writings.Being that the Grey Forums are geared to help and advise new grey owners and first time owners I tend to stay away from talking about Holistic's. Like Dan said, there's a lot of good sites, but there's a lot of bad ones too! Essences, basic, flower burning, garlic's, onions!!! All I'm going to ask is if you find something interesting, before you do anything, RESEARCH it, PM Dan or some one you trust, and study it......I don't want to hear,"I gave my Grey Garlic and pizza etc, Why did he die????" Thanks Jayd

Hi, I'm so happy your baby is better, keep a close watch for infections. Please understand my next statement, you need to stop using the bacitracen ointment, it's not good for your baby, it's for Eye infections, you only want to use a cream, a ointment is petroleum based. Rinse it with warm water pat it dry and put Aloe Vera Gel on it, you can spray it with Aloe Vera Juice, I wouldn't try a different antibiotic untill your sure the bacitracen ointment is gone. You can use Neosporin Cream. Thanks Jayd

Thank you my friend, old age lol..... http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/vegetables-and-vegetable-products/2489/2

Greyt posts, here's a calculator that's really good. http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/vegetables-and-vegetable-products/2489/2

Thanks Dan, I agree with Dan completely as I stated, but some veggies rate lower on the list then others Swiss Chard being one of them, we've always feed Swiss chard and spinach to our fids, but in smaller amounts, feeding other dark green leafy veggies instead. Better safe than sorry....Thanks Jayd This is what We base our opinion on: Chard 36g, 77 mg sodium. Kale 67g, 29mg sodium, Mustard greens 56g, 14mg sodium.

First off, you need to calm down...get him to the vet tomorrow ASAP unless you see it is not broken, no bend, angle or deep cuts on it. Wrap an icecube in a torn sheet and do your best to hold it on the area. You can get Neosporin GEL or aloe vera gel. You can spray it off with aloe vera juice. The main thing you need to look out for is secondary infection so a vet visit is in order. For the stress for both you and your baby, get some organic chamomile tea. Brew it and don't add anything to it...let it cool to 109 or less and let your baby sip it out of the spoon or out of the cup, whatever is comfortable. You can add sugar or honey or whatever you want in it for you, not your grey. Keep us informed...Jayd

Hi, your kale, carrot tops, mustard greens, dandelion greens are greyt for parrots, white Swiss chard, spinach, once a week. Chick peas ,[garbanzo beans] tomatoes, bind calcium, only once a week or so. Yes, I agree with you, new list....Thanks Wingy. P.S. I'm going to do a thread inspired by you, hopefully soon....

Hi, remember, Swiss Chard, Spinach, is loaded with sodium....Thanks Jayd

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Darwinsmom, thank you, You've made me realize how harmful my reply's are. Your a asset to this forum. Thank you Jay

I'm sorry, my research was correct, I've always trusted parrot.org, I couldn't find anywhere that I threatened anyone, nor say it wasn't okay to feed parrots peppers, All I stated was possibility's.....I did notice that people only read what they want, not the whole post. All this started because I gave a opinion, which was peppers can cause problem, and I made the statement, we feed mild peppers to our parrots. So, to end this, I make this statement, We feed only mild peppers to our fids, and please feed what ever you want to yours, I hope this was all worth it...Thank you Jayd

After reading the article ,it made the 20,000 might be a limit for birds, that's a relative low dose of heat, [Arbol pepper]Scoville units. T the end of the article the group posts this statement: so accuracywise you'd better keep your fingers crossed. There has been on scientific study made on the effects on Hot Chilli peppers and captive parrots, but there are noted occasions of digestive tract problems in same parrots. So, I stick to my guns, better safe then sorry, we will only feed low temp peepers to our fids...Parrot.org says there has been no study if it's a fact that parrots can't taste capsaicin, it's more likely that with so few taste buds and a extremely bad sense of smell, they can't taste the heat... Capsaicin will and does burn a parrots skin.. The jury's still out, we feed our fids hot peppers but not for the reason to brag that,"my parrot eats jalapenos". Why do we need to feed our parrots something that might be harmful? They've only started studying about capsaicin on humans in the last few years...Our captive parrots life is so far different then a wild parrots it's not funny, our parrots are couch potatoes in comparison, their not as active they don't burn as many calories, they don't fly 500 feet after eating to help digest there food, what they eat stays in the gut far longer. Our parrots don't need Emerril, or The Top Chefs, they need a balanced healthy diet with out extremes... My opinion... Thanks Jayd Please note, what we feed our Greys today might not show up for years as a problem.....

Thanks Penny, a Dremel even in the hands of the experienced can take off a leg or cut a belly in a heart beat, wise choice, better safe the sorry...Dont laugh, this wii take off just the tip...http://www.alltvstuff.com/dog_nail_trimmer.html Thanks Jay

Hi, like Dave said, Chicken, turkey, salmon, albacore [all rinsed], stay away from the red-meats, Greys have a problem with saturated fats, they can get and die from cholesterol. Thanks Jayd