Thank you I heard back from the guy that has the one yr old grey. I asked him for pictures, mainly just to see the bird, not to make a decision based soley on photos, and he responded that he would rather me come and meet the bird in person. Of course I planned to do that anyway because greys seem to be somewhat choosy with who they want as an owner But it also made me feel like he cares who the bird goes to which is always a plus. He is asking $500 and said he also has the cage and playstand etc, not included in the price. It sounds like a really good deal. Is there anything that you suggest that I look for to determine that the grey is really only one year or so? I guess it really does not matter to me as long as he seems to be a healthy, friendly bird. Thank you for the advice