Thanks Dee, but I have spoken to the man and woman who have the amazon. They are breeders and breed many different parrots. He is outside and is not handled at all. Evaluating my present parrots, Ana Grey the queen, Sterling Gris, the big lug scarey cat, and Louie, the mature and protective male zon, I realize that my spoiled flock would not want another mature male zon in the mix. Two mature male zons without mates might be more than this old lady can handle. Frankly the present owner agrees. This is a breeder now not a pet and my present flock are definitely spoiled pets.