BMustee

My father has it and he has not complained about it sense I got my grey. One of the girls at my work also has it and I think the only real reason her's get flaired up a bit often is because of the chemicals used in the Kennel...she work with the birds on some days and puppies on others. She also has cockatiels at home while are just as dusty as greys and they don't bother her.

It can take birds a few tries to get everything right. Be sure to let us know if you got anything!

No problem. B)

Your room would be great. I cleaned my carpets not too long ago and all my birds were fine in another room.

Have your neighbour come over while your still home and let them get to know eachother first. See if they can get him out of the cage and onto a stand and back again. Like it was said before, ask they to sit and talk with him for a bit and leave a tv on.

Can you still smell it...if yes how strong?

If it was more like he was annoyed by them and wasn't too aggressive with them I would say go slow and you might have a shot but with his behavior towards them I would not let them near him and vis-versa.

Nope...he'll be out for blood every time.

{Feel-good-0002006E} That is too cute! Elmo knows the Andy G. song too and will to everything perfect up till the big whistles, then it's free-style time!

She is beautiful, scissor beak and all. I don't think you need to worry much. We have a few at the store with scissor beaks (all of them are macaws) and they are fine. One of the Blue Throats has a REALLY bad scissor beak and he has never had an issue. I think it gives them some real character to their faces and wouldn't turn a bird down for it. Good for you taking a bird that so many see as damaged!<br><br>Post edited by: BMustee, at: 2008/06/03 06:06

Nychsa wrote: I'm guessing you didn't understand his analagy... The slogan for the city of Las Vagas is "What happens in Vegas stays in Vegas" Being in the closet means your homosexual and have not come out and admited it yet...thus being in the closet. He thinks that what happens between them should stay between them. I have a few friends on "that side of the fence" and don't mind that they swing that way, but I don't like hearing about their escapades...although I don't like hearing about anyones no matter what their persuasion. Ok, back on track. I really wish anyone thinking about getting a grey, or any bird, would talk to people that own them and do their research. Also, too many people don't get them for the long hawl. I can't tell you how many people come in and say "I used to have one of these..." I just think to myself how that birds life has been sense...if it got a forever home or if it was doomed to bounce for the rest of it's life. It's heart breaking.<br><br>Post edited by: BMustee, at: 2008/06/03 05:55

Ohhh how cute! We might be getting some baby quakers into the store soon and I will be the one taking them home to feed them...I can't wait!

I second what Judy said. Greys are not "social flockers" in the wild and most of the time will not get along with anything that isn't a grey...and not all greys like eachother ether. My Elmo tried to kill a finch that escaped on me...so now if I need to open the top door of the finch flights he gets put in the bathroom with the door shut. I would not try to get them to get along ever again. Your grey WILL kill a tiel. That is what he was going for and I'm sure he will try to finish the job if given the chance.

I keep aloe plants just for this reason. Use the gel from inside the plant, that way you know it's pure. Don't use anything else on the cut because it is too close to the eyes, mouth and nose. Be sure to keep her perches and everything else extra clean to help prevent infection. If it does begin to look infected take her to the vet ASAP. If your bird is escaping and flying free in the house you should concider clipping her. She has hurt herself once now, and it could have been MUCH worse. Many birds are killed from a collision with a wall from ether a broken neck or brain/internal damage. Escape from a cage fully flighted also means there is a good chance of escape from the house as well...never to be seen again. I hear people talk about loosing a beloved bird from escape all the time. You should also put padlocks on the food and main doors. There are a number of birds at the store that have to be padlocked because of a history of escape. If all the doors cannot be locked then I would buy a better cage.<br><br>Post edited by: BMustee, at: 2008/06/03 05:08

Is it ok to enter if the bird doesn't belong to you as long as you took the picture? If it is then I'll enter the picture of Sasha doing her "flasher" pose. She is my big baby, but she belongs to the store.

Dan and Judy have both given great advise. To echo them, you did the right thing by doing the snatch and rinse. Elmo got in the pool once and I snatched him out and rinsed him off...he was not a happy camper. I would be VERY careful about your sons interations with your grey and what he can get into. Parrots don't like kids from the get-go, so if your grey is mad at you for rinsing him just think about how much more mad he is at your son because he was the one that sprayed him.

danmcq wrote: LOL...well, lets hope the store owner never reads this! Hahahaha I don't sell very many large birds because I talk people out of the thought of getting one or tell them to think about it and do some research online about exactly what "type" of bird would be best for them. I'm much better at selling finches and canaries...they still make the store money because some of them cost $300 a pair and a single Canary is $129.99. That is too funny, a grey that asks if it talks. I would try to teach a closet talker to say "FABULOUS"! hahaha

Elmo started to really talk at about 11 months. He tried to talk a little earlier but it was really garbly so I didn't count it. One of the girls that i work with has a grey that just started to talk and it's about 2 years old.

Oh yeah, I get people in the store all the time saying they want a talking bird. I flat out tell them that not every bird will talk and that the greys won't even start to talk until they are a year old. Then I ask them why else they want a bird...most of these people have nothing to say to that. After their silence I tell them the novelty of a talking bird is short lived and that parrots live very long lives of 5o+ years. If that doesn't drive them out of the bird department then telling them the cost does. LOL, I had a woman looking at our large flight of Lady Gouldian Finches and start asking me questions about them. I start telling her all about the care and upkeep when she cuts me off by asking me...no lie..."How well do they talk?" Hahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!! I started laughing and then I realized that she was serious. I told her, "No, they don't talk...but the male will sing." Then she turned to the finch wall and asked "Well, which one of these do?" I could not believe my ears!!! I told her that no finches will talk, just parrots. As always when I told her how much the Greys and Macaws cost she walked away. Some people not only should never have pets but should really be taken out of the gene pool too.<br><br>Post edited by: BMustee, at: 2008/06/01 05:15

If it realeases O3 (also known as ozone, which makes that just rained smell) then it should not be used ether. It can kill birds in large amounts.

It seems like more macaws and cockatoos seem to like their feet played with, not so much for greys. The way I look at it is if they enjoy it it's not going to do anything but good for them. Another thing I have noticed is when I do trims at my work I would say 80% of the birds I hold calm down when I rub their feet while the other foot gets the nails done...esp. the birds that ball up their toes.

Are you sure he isn't hitting it against the cage bars? I wouls think over preening would be on both sides, but him not having the flapping room sounds like something that would cause damage to the feathers. As for bathing, greys do not like warm water...most like ice water. My Elmo does not like his spray bath but almost seems like he wants to get into my glasses of ice water. Cold Aloe Vera juice is what many of us for bathing instead of water. It acts as a moisturizer for their skin, because they are prone to dry skin issues.

Hahahahaha, he keeps his feet clean...he still refuses to poop in his cage!

I have read this article before and it make perfect sense. I would love to see the surveys he did in larger numbers for a more accurate result.

bettyboop wrote: I spray it, let it set for a few moments, and then take a damp scrubby sponge(like you use on your dishes) to take the poop off. Sometimes there is a little white film from the poop so I'll turn the sponge over after a quick rinse and wipe it down a second time. I use it with my finches in the cage, even though they are free to fly around the rooom, and to clean up Elmo's little gifts he will leave on the edge of the tub. It gets up poop that has been on tree stands for a week like it was still a fresh "deposit" too. Trust me, my pet store babies got spoiled today as always! Hahaha! Sasha and Pattie got to pick at some big millet...Sasha really seemed to enjoy it.