lovemyGreys

Hey thanks for that, i thought no-one was intrested in this thread I drive a BMW

No problem that's what we are here for

Hi Hannah, long time no see Hope your well & Juji, look forward to the pictures when you can get some.

:laugh: You chime in anytime you like Dave

Well im afraid the answer is he needs to see an avian vet ASAP, Sleeping with his head buried in his back all day is also a sign of illness.If the eye is shut it may be many reasons,infection,foreign object in it,if there is a bump/swelling it may be a tumour, the list is endless, please get him ot the vet, & update once you have been.

So by common consensus we agree it's normal

Thats ok :laugh: what sort of stuff was you thinking about ? The same would apply as i said, small sessions individually.

Make sure you defrost it first Skuffy you can give it to your grey lika smoothie,i make smoothies for my 4

:blush: We try are best Thank you.

Yes that is one way it throws them off balance & for a split second they forget about the biting, but reinforce it with a firm NO, another method is to gently tip your hand from side to side again this affects the balance for that split moment . Teaching this now will hopefully have the desired affect & will stop the biting later on But they all at some point try their luck & go through biting phases.

shazbaby36 From what i have observed watching my four i would say it is perfectly normal,mine do it, it's like their cleaning the nails.

If there has been no improvement with your Grey's foot/leg problem then i strongly suggest a second opinion from the vet, from what you first described there is something wrong. If the other grey has picked up that he is the stronger of the two,he may be trying to assert himself as flock leader.He is trying to dominate the other grey.If they are in the same cage i would advise that you separate them for safety reasons. Supervise all out of cage time.When the stronger grey is aggresive to the weaker grey return him to the cage for 5 minutes & ignore him, he needs to understand that his bad behaviour will not be tolerated.Share yourself equal between both greys, do not let one become jealous of the other.You need to show him that you are flock leader or he will continue his behaviour.

<br><br>Post edited by: lovemyGreys, at: 2008/04/03 09:58

Thats the way to go, let him get the feel for it & see it means him no harm !

congratulations guys, Tari dont stop i always vote, i may not enter them all but that is only because i dont always have pictures of the subject matter

Pam you can always attach an additional perch on the side of the cage & add toys,thats what i did.dorian will find her own comfort zone A vet visit is a must for her, i know here in the UK you can get them to come out & i think that would be best for Dorian. Any additional worries Pam you just yell

Pin feathers are the new feathers coming in. They poke through with a blood supply attached,usually you will see them on the nape/neck area.They are in a keratin sheath.you should be able too see them very clearly if your grey has them coming through,they can irritate your grey so a gentle neck scratch is always appreciated.

Good luck with the new baby,look forward to seeing some pictures

I talked to the powers that be and yes you can enter your grey.!! Way to go Tari, i have four to pick from now :laugh:

Pam here is very good link on teaching the step up method... http://exoticpets.about.com/od/behavior/f/birdstepup.htm This one is about your greys body language... http://www.greyforums.net/forums/african-grey/70476-your-greys-body-language.html This one is for using the towelling method which may be necessary as you are unable to have contact with Dorian,i do know of people that have had success with it,but please read it & consider if it is right for you... http://training-parrots.blogspot.com/2007/02/towel-parrot-taming-method.html Pam it may be as it was in my case that even after all the love,time & patience Dorian may ever only move a few steps forward,My grey was content to come out of the cage on his own accord,sit on top of his cage all day & watch the world go by. You dont love them any less because of it.The growling did stop & he was happy to accept treats from my hand but we can go in to this deeper later on.<br><br>Post edited by: lovemyGreys, at: 2008/04/01 16:19

goldn1 firstly take a deep breath, sit down & we will work through this & ignore the stick guy that approach will terrify Dorian even more ! Right i do have experience of a terrified grey who is petrified of hands,humans approaching etc..It is very early days & it is going to take time & patiences on both parts here to build up trust with eachother.I understand you want her to come out of the cage, so that's where we will start .Leave the cage door open, does the cage have a gym area or an open top ? or do you have a play stand near the cage ? given time curiosity will get the better of dorian & im sure she will come out,leave her to climb up on wherever she is comfortable,dont worry at this point about getting her back in, i can assure you when she is hungry she will find her way back in, so it's important at this stage not to feed her anything outside the cage.The second night i had my wild grey he refused to go down for his food & i slept on the sofa all night long,but hunger & food will always lure them back Right so for now if your home now all day & dont need to go out, i would go open that door,your gonna have to start somewhere & if need be ill be here all day whit you

Well i voted early on in the poll, but just to say none of my four are clipped & never will be.I respect individual views on clipping but reading through this thread it would appear that the majority of clipped greys are being allowed to regrow their flight feathers, which is great news

:laugh: Terri i hope you told your daughter " welcome to the world of greys " :laugh: sounds as if the birds are having a blast

All these new babies our members have it's so exciting ,good luck to you all & remember were here for any questions you may need answering

We dont think your an idiot at all Skuffy Good luck with the harness, are you able to buy one local ? or will you have to buy from the internet ? go for the aviator if you can