Tari

This may or may not work. Birds have been known to rip of each others beaks, feet, toes, wings...Are you prepared to keep them in seperate cages or rooms in this case? I recommend only getting a second bird if you want a second bird. It is never a good idea to get a pet for your pet. Get yourself a bird and if they become friends count that a plus. (but I never recomnd letting them play together to many things can happen however some members here do that they don't mind taking the risk) Or instead of a second bird how about one of those bird Cd's for you bird to watch. Or just turn on the TV or Radio. Or place a bird feeder outside the window and have the blinds open so he can watch them. Just wondering what does he do that makes you think he is lonely? How long has the other birds been gone? At his age as long as he has lots of toys and a TV or radio and lots of one on one time with you then he should be just fine. Many people keep single birds with no problems for years.

Nice job Is it stained? And if so is it bird safe stain? Is there any such thing? None of mine do but many birds are wood chewers. That would make a great travel perch.

I know your giving him lots of attention but in many cases birds "act out" when they don't get enough. I would still try a cage move see if that helps any.

No Idea never seen a Mitred.

Ahhhh ok thats different. He sees you as his mate he is protecting you from the "stranger" If there is something that can be done with that I have no clue. My azmazon does that. You can't get near me when I have him out cause he well bite you or if he can't get to you he well bite me. I just don't let people get to close then. Move his cage to a less traffic area well help with the other. They like to be where the family is but they really don't care for the passing traffic. It could also be possible he does not feel comfortable where his cage is and feel the need to defend himself. Good Luck

Make sure the only people that handle your birds are bird people. What I mean is they have an idea about birds. Make sure no one reacts to the bad behavior and just sits him down back in the cage or on the playstand. If he is not clipped I would do so for now. You can let him fly again after you have control of the bird. He/she may not want to be petted any more. Most greys are not cuddle and don't care to be touched. While you do need to be able to touch your bird you can towel train him for when it is needed so for now no longer expect petting during "play" time. When your boyfriend does handle him/her he needs to do step up practicing. Better knows as laddering. There is a nice artical in the FAQ area about dealing with biting. I am sure others well come along with other ideas that you can try. Good Luck<br><br>Post edited by: Tari, at: 2007/09/06 20:01

Opps I forget for the big birds I add zupreem mixed with a large bird nut mix. And for the smaller birds I mix a pretty bird seed/pellet mix. For the great bill I have to add some straight seed mix and also for the Hyacinth macaw cause they both need a lot of fat in their diet.

lol this is just some of them there is about 62 parrots and many finches and doves.

Well I don't make it. lol The lady I feed for does. But I know most the stuff in here. Pasta rice frozen mix veggies from walmart the no frills brand. then she gets this fresh from the farmers market peppers (red and green), cucumbers, cabbage, carats, summer squash, apples, oranges and sometimes melons. And they she well fry eggs shell and all during breeding season to add to the pasta mix. The pasta,rice and frozen veggies are made way ahead of time and frozen. The fresh foods are put in the processor ever three days and then I mix them with the frozen (thawed out of course) when I feed.

This is the mix I feed at work and I get to have some to bring home to feed to mine. I mix up three bowls of this to feed all the birds at the barn.

Ok I got a few pictures from the farm today but only going to share some of the best/more interesting ones. This is the barn they are in right now. She is building a much nicer place and hopes to have it done before winter. This is her last great bill. They are an endangered in the wild. She did have 8 but the other 7 got killed by an illness that only effects them. She hope to start up her breeding program again when she has the avary built. This is a retired breeder. We call her Granny T. She is about 80 years old. This is also a retired breeder. Her name is Granny. Her mates name was Jed. He died about five years ago. We guess the age on this female is around 30. And here are some of the doves that are in the dove pen. This is her male milatry I just love this picture. He wants to attack me so bad.

Voting well close this Sunday evening and Ill be accepting photos for the next contest at that time. So VOTE VOTE VOTE.

I don't think it is cruel to teach a bird to swear. But I wonder if he realizes when he passes or has to re home it well make it hard to find a good quality home. At this point I would be thrilled if Que said anything to me. But I would be saddened if it was cussing. (she is a closet talker) However (I have not watched them I don't do youtube) It sounds from you you all have said that this bird is well taken care of and that is so nice to hear. As far as it even being posted well it is cleared stated that is is x-rated. But we all know that when we as children and even as adults are told "stay out" or "no" most of us tend to do it anyway. So maybe it shouldn't be here? I really don't know and after days of thinking about it since I'm not a mother I really don't know. But as far as debating goes as long as it don't turn to flaming I think that is just fine.

lol ya sure you are. Just Kidding. It was fun and I was bored.

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Ok this is one of the things I found about sharing food. Don't Kiss Your Bird and Other Common Mistakes Bird Owners Make by Roxanne Hawn Article borrowed from PetSmart.com People remain mystified by the magic of our feathered friends. Be it their ability to fly or their fantastic plumage, we just can't seem to get enough of them. So it's no surprise that birds are being kept as pets in increasing numbers. However, because birds are so very different from the dogs and cats who most often live in our homes, their proper care remains a mystery. So much so, that people commonly make mistakes when caring for their pet birds -- even with the best of intentions. To help set the record straight of these confusing issues, we consulted with Brian Speer, DVM, a board certified avian veterinarian, 2000 president of the Association of Avian Veterinarians, and co-author of Birds for Dummies. Why Mammal Saliva and Birds Don't Mix Birds mouths are much cleaner than ours. And, ours are much cleaner than say a cat's. When it comes to birds, the most dangerous organism in any mammal's mouth is something called Pasteurella multocida. Once introduced onto or into a bird, Pasteurella multocida can become a "very infectious organism," says Speer, crossing membranes, entering the blood stream, and taking a bird from perfect health to death in as little as one hour. That means a bird that is attacked by a cat, even if the injuries look minor, can be in serious trouble. The bird's instinct will be to clean the wounds by licking them. Doing so, the bird ingests this dangerous organism and may be starting a chain of events that leads to serious illness and even death. According to Speer, this same organism can be found to a lesser extent in dog and human saliva. "Unless it's a really wet kiss," chuckles Speer, "It's not a real danger to kiss them." However, he warns that safety precautions should be taken to prevent any cats or dogs (no matter how well-behaved) from "kissing" your pet bird -- even if it does look cute. Sharing food with your bird can also be a bad idea. For example, if you bite off a piece of apple before feeding it to your bird, your saliva is on that piece of food and can be introduced into your bird's system. "In general, the rule of thumb is that you don't want saliva and pet birds to mix," says Speer. "From an academic sense, there is some risk [to kissing your bird], but I've never seen a sick bird from human saliva. I have seen it with dogs and cats."

I could of sworn lovemygrey made a post a while back about why we should not kiss our birds. As soon as I can find it Ill link it. Or mabye someone can help me out? The same would apply for food. I know its a no no but that post explains why it is a no no.

No vacation so far this year for me. Work has been slow for my husband and we just felt like we didn't have the extra money for a vacation.

Birds have many more vertebrae in the neck than humans, ranging from about 14 or 15 and up to a maximum of 25 in the swan. Humans have 7. In the parakeet, there are said to be 11. In all birds, they are much more mobile than in mammals, which is why most birds can turn their heads 180 degrees. The neck is one of the strongest parts of its body, so the suggestion that "it broke its neck" by flying into a window, or if it is found dead, is usually incorrect. Because of the mobility of the neck, a limp (dead) bird often appears to have a broken neck, but this is almost never the case. Unlike the type of jaw found in mammals, in birds, BOTH the upper and lower jaw are moveable. Feather movement is brought about by feather muscles, which attach to the walls of the follicles. These muscles allow a bird to fluff up the feathers when chilled or sick, and allow a bird to ruffle the feathers, realigning them when necessary. No bird has more than 4 toes. Rheas, cassowaries and emus (large, flightless birds) have 3 toes, as do woodpeckers. Only one species, the ostrich, has two toes. Flight is a highly energetic form of exercise. A budgerigar flying at sea level uses 1 ½-3 times as much oxygen as a mammal of similar size running. During flight, the bird increases its oxygen consumption by about 13 times over the resting metabolic rate. To facilitate flight, most bones of birds are hollow. Swallows migrating between Europe and Africa must fly for about 50 hours over the Sahara without resting. The American Golden Plover flies over 2000 miles non-stop between Alaska and Hawaii. The Arctic Tern migrates from pole to pole, the round trip totaling some 20,000 miles. Swifts can fly at up to 60-90 miles per hour. Penguins can swim underwater at about 20 mph. Ostriches can run up to 50 mph. The migrating Bar-headed goose rises from near sea level to traverse Himalayan peaks that are over 9000 meters high, which in human energetic terms is equated to riding a bicycle over the summit of Mount Everest. Aircraft have reported collisions with birds at absolutely astounding altitudes. A vulture was reportedly struck at over 11,000 meters. Birds truly have a unique and remarkable respiratory system and an adaptable cardiovascular system, giving birds an energetic superiority over mammals. An unacclimatized man is in a state of incipient hypoxic collapse after 10 minutes at 6100 meters, but an ordinary house sparrow can fly and even gain altitude at that height (as proven in a hypobaric chamber). The skeleton of the hand has undergone considerable simplification and adaptation for flight to create the end of the wing. In most birds, there are only three digits (fingers) present. To prevent flight, pinioning is performed by cutting off the manus (hand) at the wrist (carpal) joint. Birds do see in color. Birds can see into the near-ultraviolet wavelengths of light. In primates, the lens of the eye acts as a yellow filter, which cuts off wavelengths of light below 400 NM, and therefore renders ultraviolet radiation invisible. The cornea and lens of diurnal (up during the day) birds are optically clear and appear to transmit wavelengths down to about 350 NM, thus rendering near ultraviolet radiation visible and absorbing only those ultraviolet wavelengths which are not physiologically destructive. Owls can fly between obstacles and can hunt successfully in what appears as pitch darkness to humans. Deep diving species of birds can close the external ear canal completely to prevent water from entering. The temporal resolution of the avian ear is about 10 times faster than that of the human ear. Thus, the song of the Chaffinch would have to be slowed down 10 times before the human ear could resolve all of the details which are learned by the Chaffinch chick.

Lol her great banner made me think I should make something more showy for my avator. Unfortantly it don't work. But here it is for you all to see.

Oh I relize that I thought we were talking about birds. lol

Thank you so much for the link. That was one of many I ran accross looking up info on them. I have been wanting one of these to put in one of my hanging baskets. Since I need to wait to spring to repot Ill be getting a put to put the cheep pot in so it looks better. Can't wait for it to start putting out vines. Thank you for all your help your great.

Yep that is where I got it. It was the last plant left after the my sister-in-laws got what they wanted. Funny thing is I told my husband yesterday I hoped I could get that. lol I might can keep it alive for him for many years. At least thats the plan.

That is so true Lovie. Karma for you. Macaws can live to be over a 100 years old. And our tiny budgies only live to be in their teens. So size wise bigger is longer.