Dave007

If anything, doing that sort of thing makes for a very calm bird who isn't as hyper or nervious and more accepting of owners. The bird is also stronger, it has ideal weight, is more assured of itself. The problem is that 1----breeders want to wean the birds quickly for selling purposes 2----breeders want to accomodate the largest amount of customers 3----breeders are trying to make potential customers happy Many birds are weaned but still need formula. ****Abundance feeding*****isn't high up on their **necessary*** list.

This is something you've probably heard a million times-----A person needs to wait a while with a new bird concerning all the new things that it must get used to. This is NEW PARROT 101. 2 weeks is a very short time. You may not believe it but your bird isn't used to it's surroundings yet. It does many things thyat make you think that he's used to all things but that's not true. Now for the Pak o Bird-------Parrot ownership and parrot keeping existed for centuries before Pak o Bird was invented. ***The first time she stepped up and went into her Pak O Bird with no incident, but on Christmas Eve when I went to get her to go into the Pak O Bird she stepped up, but as I neared her carrier she flew off. Then she wouldn't step up.** At first, a person can get away with many things when trying out new things or devices on their new birds. But eventually, that bird makes a decision as far as liking or disliking those new things and as soon as they can see how to get away from those new things or devices it will. Going to your parent"s house may be an adventure and thrill to you but you can never ask your bird whether it's an adventure to him. It's very common for a bird to lose trust and become very leery of a person who's using the same method to do something like putting him/'her in an enclosed area..The same method can be used for other things that a bird will like but does he know the end results of those same two methods? *****I don't want to pressure her, but my plan was to take her to class with me daily while I teach.***** Well, you're doing just that. Your bird needs to develop loads of trust in all family members, environments, habits and things in your house before an owner decides to disturbing that learning process. I could go on and on but instead, I ll just say that all your treks into the outdoors including visiting strangers and new environments should be put on hold until the bird is extremely secure and trusting of you. Those are the things to work on IN THE HOUSE. Just because Pak o Bird now exists doesn't mean it can simply be used because it's says---*** made for Birds***

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I'll answer by using your time schedule that you stated. The first egg that you judged would hatch opprox 12/5 was already incubated for approx 30 days before you could make a judgement as to when it would hatch. The egg didn't ------egg is no good. Do the same calculation for each egg. Eggs are laid 2 to 3 days apart. They hatch 2 to 3 days apart. From the time they're laid, it takes approx 30/32 days to hatch because the hen immediately starts to incubate them after she lays them. Your hen has had all of the eggs much more than 30/32/33 days. According to your time schedule the first egg you saw should have hatched by 12/5 the second egg you saw should have hatched by 12/7--12/8 the third egg you saw should have hatched by 12/9--12/11 the fourth egg you saw should have hatched by 12/12 ---12/14 this would also apply to the fifth egg but you said one was cracked so that egg is automatically no good. The egg should have been removed immediately. So far , none of the eggs have hatched. You do the math. I'm gonna assume that you never provided the proper quiet breeding environment, never fed them special types of food in order to strenthen them for breeding, don't know specific hatching schedules, never took either of them to a vet to see if there was anything wrong with them, never found out if the female was calcium defecient, Because of what types of questions you're asking, I'm gonna assume that you don't own an incubator, don't own a brooder, don't know how to hand feed baby greys, don't know how to make up special formula, don't know time schedules for feeding, don't know how to recognize sick chicks. If any of the chicks were to hatch, coming to a board (AFTER BEING HATCHED) to get information will result in dead chicks. So, I would advise you to never put these birds together just because they are sexually attracted to each other. Plus, they each need their own cage. Many people have greys that can get sexually attracted to each other but they're still not put together. Breeding greys is complicated and shouldn't be tried by novices.

The person who originally put the blog link in, simply decided to remove it. Everyone can edit their own links/replies. What happened has nothing to do with anything concerning the board or it's rules.

I wish to extend to each and everyone of you warmest holiday wishes, and though I don't know any of you personally I do keep most important stories that I come across here in my thoughts and prayers. This holiday season I wish the greatest of blessings for you and your families, and for a peace that surpasses all understanding. God Bless you all and Merry Christmas and Happy Hanukkah

You need to tell us how long this has been going on. Birds go through phases where they'll repeat noises and other sounds over and over and over sometimes lasting for days and daysuntil he/she finally tires of doing that.

The verdict is no. When people are told to go and buy different types of nuts for their parrots, the people must make sure that any type of nut that's purchased must not be salted. This applies to parrots. Don't know what other types of birds you're talking about. bananas can be gien once in a while and problems won't occur. There's no health benefits with bananas but many parrots like them. They can't hurt a parrot. You'll have to post in different areas to get complete answers. This isn't the proper section. This is a welcome/introduction section. Please read the names of the different sections.

Many people have given cinnamon sticks for years and years. People use them for different reasons. Some use the sticks sticks as a sort of toy/treat..they love it and it makes their beaks and breath smell good ( if the bird has constant bad breath. A vet can tell what its from) You can also sprinkle some cinnamon in cooked bird food or oatmeal..it was especially popular for oatmeal to spice it up but as time as gone on, a person can now buy cinnamon in a jar at the supermarket. I used it for years because they took to the opatmeral much better than plain oatmeal. My birds eat lots of oatmeal that has cinnamon in it. Actually, I give cinnamon oatmeal to baby birds as they're in the last stages of weaning so the transition from formula to oatmeal isn't drastic. Usually, that's the point where they're always looking for flavored oatmeal and I give it well into adulthood. Personally, I wouldn't put it on food because it's simply a pain in the ass to do that. As far as benefits, there really is none but there's millions of things that're out there which have no benefits yet theyr'e stilll great for birds. Every single thing that can be eaten doesn't have to be beneficial to a bird but this statement is just my tried and true opinion. Do what you feel is safe. No experimentation until the person asks.

General Hiyki Mangor from Sarat6ogie, Japan near the Isle of gaqlap. He rarely visits because he suffers from Balaty Syndrome which is sushi poisoning. He ate fugu and survived and that's when he decided to give part of his wealth to Height of Grey Wingers.

Not as long as the birds are a safe distance away and surrounding air current isn't constantly blowing at them. Wood is different than teflon in that the after smell which lingers doesn't apply to wood. When you can't smell the wood, the odor is gone. If you can't smell the teflon, it's still lingers in the surrounding areas. If you're gonna burn wood make sure the fireplace flue is open

You should have the ring removed and then give it back to Coco. Then tell him to only use it after completes his wedding vows.

Wood burning smoke coming back into the house while burning is equivelent to second hand cigarette smoke. The residue smoke and odor from a log that's not burning anymore is even worse because the odor is heavier and won't dissapate quickly.

Just remember that you'll see that happen a few times a year. There's no set time. It could be one feather, 2 or 3 feathers and that includes the red tail feathers.

I really don't know what you're disagreeing about. The OP simply wants to know how to make his grey like and accept other people who don't really care for him and that bird is aware of that.. The person lives alone. He has no wrestlling or sking sleepovers with anyone. He has no kids. So, people here have responded by telling him about past experiences of their bird/birds with people and also the basic personality traits of an CAG. What the OP asked about has been asked hundreds of times and after people find out about those simple basic traits, they deal with the basic situations differently.If there's no large family around then there can't be family dynamics. How a bird will accept a certain home environment( such as yours) doesn't mean that every bird put into that same home environment will react or accept it as well as Sophie does or did.. So we find it best to give out generalizations concerning the grey species as a whole. There's too many specifics to get involved in. Environment, age, past ownership, ingrained habits developed from the past,, likes and dislikes of the certain sex of adults, aggressiveness, lack of aggression, reclusiveness, attitude towards children. Etc etc.

I looked and looked and looked some more but I didn't see you hanging anywhere on your orbit. If I remember correctly, you did say you were part of the flock. Right?

What Talon just said is totally correct. Greys are usually put in areas where they don't have to interact with strangers or casual friends or family when they come around. Greys are extremely watchful when those people are around. I had an incident quite a few years ago with one of my greys when people came over. The grey was on my wrist. The people were about 10 ft away in the living room. The bird became immediately tense and watchful. He pushed himself closer to my chest and he kept watching. I thought about petting him to ease his tension so I did. Immediately, he bit me and I realized that the reason he did that was because my hand was blocking his vision of those people. Understand that he was only 1 yr old. That's the last time I blocked his vision when he was looking at something that made him nervous. He had no desire to get friendly with these people who just happened to be my relatives. ***So the question is how do I socialize him with family and strangers? I don't want him to bite out of fear or be afraid. My family doesn't like birds in the first,all except for my niece! I'd really like him to be social and like "talking" to strangers...what's a good way? Should I get him to a bird "play date"? *** Well, when there's people around that don't particularly like or care for the birds, Those people are also leery of the birds even though they don't know it. It's human nature especially when the bird/birds are close by. The bird will definitely know it though. They have that special talent just like other animals have it. Example, dogs. The last thing a biird wants to do is get involved with people who don't care for them and when those people do, it's possible that a bite will follow. The most important type of socializing is done with the immediate family or others that live there all the time. Other people, friends or casual family, are considered to be outsiders. Your niece isn't an outsider because she involves herself with the bird on a constant basis. She likes him and he likes her. As far as talking, the same thing applies as far as strangers or casual visitors. Normally, a grey will shut up when they're around. So forget *play dates*. It means nothing to a grey or any other species of parrot.

I wanna say thanks for the item about using oatmeal baths on birds. I'm putting it in my book which is called Inventions to Think About on a Very Slow Day. PS---putting things like that on a bird's skin will make the feathers dirty if they're not waterproof feathers. Any item used on a bird suffering from dry skin needs items that will penetrate the skin, not lay on top of the dry skin. Oatmeal baths don't penetrate skin. The skin needs to breathe.

There is no special spray paint that can be used for that problem. First, the bad paint has to be removed. Then the rust has to be removed. After the rust has been removed what's left is bare metal which can rust up very easily because it is bare metal. If the cage is really one that you like its best to get it done by professional people who will remove the paint and rust and will put on proper paint coating. It's best to get the whole cage done because you really don't know where the rest is hiding. It's an expensive job but it's less expensive than buying a new cage. You cage will be looking like a brand-new cage. The coating that's used is called Powder-coated baked paint on finishes that are usually the best. This is the process used on most new cages and also used cages. In a factory setting this is a very economical way to apply a quality finish. A dry powder coating is sprayed onto the bare surface. Sometimes an electrostatic process is used where an electric current between the paint sprayer and the cage pulls the paint to the cage creating a very tight and even finish. When heated the paint melts, shrinks and dries into a very high quality finish. Powder-coating is done by many paint shops around the country, but for small jobs is expensive and usually overkill for most repainting situations. That's why it's best to get the whole cage done. Once you include your time and labor preparing the cage you will have more invested than if you purchased a new cage. If you have an expensive cage that you plan on keeping for a long time you may want to look into this process or you may have to throw out the cage you're talking about. Usually, when the cage isn't very expensive the best thing to do is to buy another one but I can see that you liked this one a lot. If you would go into a pet store you would see that just about every cage for parrots is powder coated. Parents can usually pick right through the surface of regular paint but powder coated cage paint is pretty durable. Another choice that you might have is to buy a stainless steel cage which is probably the most expensive that you can get. Since you have very nice cage, my opinion is to not do that. Lots of people get their cages redone using powder coating. It's the safest method as far as a parrot who has the ability to chew off rusted paint and greys are known to do this.

Many parrots can aggresively overpreen themselves and cause small bald spots. It usually from itchy skin. Put a little aloe gel on the spot and the itch will lessen and the feathers will come back in. It may take a while though if your bird is actually molting. It sounds like a very little spot. Just be patient.

What time do you broadcast your obvious infomercial? 3AM --3x a week? What stations?

It's very possible and easy to do as long as you know some ground rules. One is that you're getting the bird to function as company for your bird which in many situations, it doesn't work, then it's bad idea. If you're getting this other bird to give it a home, then it's a wonderful idea. As long as you realize that there's a possibility that they many not care for each other or simply ignore each other, then it's a wonderful idea. As long as you realize that each bird needs it's own cage, it's a wonderful idea. As long as you treat your present bird as the *1 bird, then it's a wonderful idea. A new bird won't know what it's like to be the #1 bird in a new environment so there's never a problem. If a new bird isn't *socialized*, that only means that the bird isn't *socialized* *with people, not another bird. If you realize that, then it's a great idea. As long as you realize that the new bird will arrive with it's own personality, then,it's a great idea.You need to stick to that personality. I've done it and they were both adult birds with many serious problems. Both are in with another adult bird that had no problems at all. Do they like each other? They eventualally accepted each other. Do they need to be separated? To this day, they all have their own cages. The cages can be put together but don't expect to see drastic changes as far as liking each other. That only happens when they're together. It's a bit difficult to get everything in order but as long as you understand that, it's a wonderful idea. Others have done the exact same thing and have had great results

There's nothing special about the colors that you describe. Usually, it's a lack of certain color genes that can cause spotting. Red factor has to do with a excess amount of the red color. Many birds have that spotting on the body and it usually goes away after the first molt. There is no such thing as a *white factor*. Any bird that has a certain large area of white feathers is missing certain color genes that involves either red feathering or lack of gray feathering genes. If your bird was entered into a contest concerning perfect feathering, your bird wouldn't be allowed to compete. So, your bird isn't rare. As far as a spotted beak( white spots), it's best to keep an eye out if more spots appear because that might mean that a vet visit is possibly needed. More than likely, if those two birds were in the same clutch, the chicks inherited those color variations from the parents. PS---right now it would be extremely hard to classify any markings on a 2 week old bird. They should still be with the parents.

Just about every vegetable that a bird eats is raw. The reason that a bird may only eat the internals of a certain vegetable is that the bird simple likes it. Many birds like only cooked veggies. Some like only raw veggies and some like both. Many chop/mash mixes are made with raw veggies as well as other raw items so raw veggies and other raw foods are fine.

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