Momo

yes dave he hates the tiel.we adopt it for my husband and im the one who give the tiel attention and food until my husband come back from work.when he see me come near the new bird he will scream,flap his wings and jump down to reach the tiel cage.its far from him but he can walk to the tiel cage. ah ya i forget one thing,how about the nasty bite?i will try as much as i can to be brave and keep insisting on him to do the training even he will bite me hard. i know i will get bitten but perhaps there is another trick to avoid this?or at least what the best thing to react to him? sorry for many question dave,and many many thanks!!(i ask this step up questin but i never get satisfied answer until today,thanks again)

dave,another silly question hope its fine ok i towel him and kidnaped him to bedroom.i will put him on the corner and try to step him up.i need to use my bare arm because perch will not work. just said he runaway and scream.should i keep repeating this? and how long this training will work good? another scenario.he step up and should i repeat this again or bring him back to his cage as the reward? thanks thanks thanks dave!!i really depend on your help

hi,just want add aloe vera 100% home made recipe: -1 inch washed aloe vera,take the gel.watch out the yellow one,dont take any yellow or green gel. -mix it with 100 ml of water and blend it with blender. spray it to the bird and the rest keep it in refrigerator.can stay for 3 days. we used this before for my dad's cockatoo and it works! extreme healthy diet is important and many foraging toys will help.my vet said grape and pistachio is very good for feather plucker.

love,patient,ignore the bad things and..always give another second change

hi dave,yes i will try to offer walnut since almond is rejected. i try to offer him perch as well and he really hate it.ah ya and one more thing,this training should be around his cage or better if i kidnaped him to go to another room? we recently adopt new bird for my husband and he hates the new bird.he always jump down of his cage walking to the new bird cage to disturb.he cant climb back to his cage himself,and i hate to towel him for going back.he does not hate the towel but i think its better if i can work step up to help him come back. thanks alot dave!

i tried to give him everything.like small peanut,small fruits,he really picky eater as well so even for treats i must to be lucky that he accept it from my hand.any idea dave??

hi everyone, im planning to teach momo step up command as now he get more and more comfortable with me.i will not rush this but i would like to get complete info about 'how' the best way to teach step up command. as he would never come to my hand when he is around his cage so: 1)i need to towel him to bring him to one room right?is this ok?is this gonna change his feeling about me like destroying trust etc? 2)he hates perch,sometimes he fall down and i offer him perch,he never wants to step on it.i must use my bare hand.is any better way to offer my hand without getting bitten too hard? 3)how long and how much frequent this traning is good per day?im scared i will stress him too much. i read a lot of site which they say we can teach our bird to step up by food.this dsnt work for me since he dsnt really into treat so what the best i can do? thanks guys.im sorry to ask too much but im really confused.

mmmm penny,come on.you just have 4 birds,not yet a dozen.seems u really interest in cockatiel,they very small.will not make you difficult.hehe kidding. hi nancy,yeah im planning to teach him step up as soon is possible.but they said he msnt see his cage around.should i kidnap him with towel and move him to bathroom? he wont even put 1 foot on my finger when he is around his cage!thats why its a kinda stuck here i guess my husband really broken heart with momo,he dsnt even said bye bye to him this morning.what a rude

hi judy,i will pick him up thursday,be sure my husband cant sleep until this thursday!! and penny,u should get one too!!

hi ilovemygrey, welcome to the forum (im also new here as well and if u research in this forum, u can find all the answer of your problem) everybody give you really good advice already but i want to share my experience if u dont mind i got my momo from rescue,they said he came with a nasty cage and the ex-owner dsnt even change his watter bowl for almost 1 week.the water is getting yellow and the bowl very slippery,so they throw all his stuff.his wings is brutally clip,he never had a toy,and his body really shaking when there is human get near him. the first day i bring him home,he was very bad.biting,screaming,shaking and always prepare himself for an 'attack'. my experience: i let him settle down for 3 weeks and i dont let him out untill 1 month (i wait till he dsnt scream at all when i get near) after 1 month he go out of his cage and he ALWAYS come back himself.what i do until now is:''food management'' i let him eat breakfast as much as he wants,and i let him out-TAKE OUT HIS BOWL.around 2 pm i put little bit of snack that he likes but not much(cuz i dont want to starve him till dinner time)-and TAKE OUT HIS BOWL AGAIN.and around 7pm i put him greatful dinner with all the things that he loves.it never failed me.he always come with pleasure to finish his bowl-and then CLOSE THE DOOR.(he dsnt step up yet so this is the best method that work for me) with this method,i dont need to catch him and he dsnt feel being 'force' to come back. slowly i sit and talk near him,give him fav food and exactly on second month i had him,i can touch him.nowdays i can pet him really easy and actually he asking for it. i hope this help u,and thanks to give the bird good home. cheers,good luck.

hi judy, thanks for the help.to be honest,i just have 1 bedroom in my apartemen so i dont have much choice.i need to put them together in living room. defenetly i will do the vet exam check(i will get the tiel from a rescue place i get momo from) and they will able to see each other in far distance. thanks everybody,we already make up our mind.the tiel will be here on thursday!! wish me luck!! (wow,i loveeee this forum!!and all the member too!!very helpful!!)

OMG!!!!! i need to hide this post from my husband because from yesterday he kill me for that tiel!!!(i cant belive a man 26 years old is begging me all the time for a tiel) surely i will take him soon,but guys.. is it really okay if they see each other in the first day(momo and the tiel)?with a far distance of course.

haha thx everybody i will update soob what finally we take,mmmm im pretty sure is cockatiel!!

hi braxton, is very normal if ur girlfriend upset.even my husband really upset and sad when my momo rejecting him.not only rejecting,he see my husband as his enemy. actually this start more worse and worse from the time my husband show momo his emotion of being upset,sad,and dissapointed(so i belive 100% he can sense anger).you dont want this happen to your girlfriend,so tell her to control her emotion.i know is easy to say it but difficult to do it.im also working on it to make momo accept my husband.well,hope he will one day. good luck!!!

this is happen to me too.we had him around 2 months now and he cant even tolerate my husband to get near him(scream and attack his toys).the only thing my husband can do is bribe him with peanut and he will come to him.but of course,only steal the peanut and runway from him after that.my husband really love him too,but he dsnt know that.

hello,thanks everybody! from what we discussed if we want to adopt a bird,he will take a tiel.he fall in love with a male white face tiel in the rescue.the bird will step up for both of us but seems he likes the bird. mmmm he will add my cleaning routine in my house,hehe. nancy:the problem is he dsnt know step up yet.thats why we cant take him around us and play together with my husband.i will try my best at least maybe momo can be more nicer to him? i read all article in this forum and it say they must be away from cage and people that might disturb the step up training.i cant take him with my hand,only hing i can do is take him with towel which he hates it.should i train him like that??

thanks everyone give me all good advice mmmm we also think about amazon as well but considering the price is too expensive here, maybe... a tiel/small ringneck will more perfect for him. and about one more problem.we place momo cage in living room so he always can see and involved to every our activity.is it okay if i put the new bird cage in the same room with him?the can see each other but not exactly can interact too close.the distance is around 8 metre with each other. we planning to get a new bird for him this week. i hope the new bird can bond with him more i still wait for new advice and comment.thxxxx

honestly,i really want a timneh.i said to him we could look for a timneh in rescue that have connection with him.but he keeps looking for other breed.i guess he just get a broken heart with african grey,thats why he dsnt ask for a timneh. i tried to make momo at least dsnt scream when my husband come near him,but day by day i realize they cant tolerate each other too much.now,momo even add an attack posture to him and try to bite as soon as he see my husband is around.my husband get so sad,he even said is better he get far from him well,i cant do anything about it.he will take treat from him but thats it,sometimes he take and throw the treat. nowdays is something new,momo always scream and flapping his wings everytime he see me watching tv near my husband. and i will not purchase a baby,i will adopt from rescue.i just want to know which breed is better with african grey. and how about african grey itself?do they get along and share their human easily? thanks!!

hello, sorry i post too soon again. my husband wants a parrot for himself too!!he just said is last night,since momo always ignore him and scream everytime he get near,he get really sad.he never wants any pet but now he seems really serious to get one.what u think is best?can the bird live with each other easily?and how about grey jealousy and temper?because i need to feed/give attention to the new parrot until my husband come home. my husband option is: -indian ringneck -cockatiel -budgie -hanhs macaw -sun conure please give me advice,any comment are welcome!!

dont worry,my guess is he just still shy. mine was like that too. my family had 2 mollucan Too before also,yes they are very loud.mmm but,still momo's sing sometimes can make me crazy.he likes to make high pitch tone with a scream continue.hehe. hope the noisy day will come for you soon.good luck aisia.

:) haha,yes seriously,they do make a LOT of noise. btw guys,can anyone tell me how to make momo less energic and less noise?

hi aisia, i completely agree with all the comment. mine dsnt make any noise also until 1 month.and after that he start whistling and now,acctually he really make me headache because he dsnt stop making noise for 6-7hours everyday(seriously non-stop).sometimes i miss my quite baby just be patient and dont worry, that noisy day will come,hehe. good luck.

yeah!!!!horeyyyy!!! what i did is only sit and talk to him alot,and when i show my finger to him,he lower his head and i didnt waste any time,i touch him!!! wow!!!still cant belive it,i touch him 3 times today,hehe thanks guys i cant do anything without all of your support!!

hi guys, remember few days ago i was so desperated about momo why he dsnt let me to touch him? im very suprised today he let me to stroke his head.not very long,just like 4 seconds but its very amazing for me.i didnt expecting him to let me touch him and it just happen.he still puff his fur anyway but now he start to allow me approaching him slowly. wow patient is a magic!!thanks guys for all the help before!!

hello.. ok im sorry i post too soon and ask too much since i read alot of article from internet,i find some article that confusing me. specially this one,i never hear this before. what u think? is this true?? SWITCHING HUMAN BONDS There is another difference between Congo and Timneh Greys: switching bonds from one human to another. Congo Greys have a reputation for deciding to change their bonded humans, usually from the primary caregiver to a spouse or older child. This can be heartbreaking for the persons who have grown to love the young Greys they care for. Therefore, I decided to run another survey, since I had not heard of as many instances where Timnehs switch allegiance from one person to another. Again, these surveys rely on personal experiences of African Grey owners, which may not always be as objective as a controlled laboratory experiment. Therefore, they should be considered possible trends, rather than outright facts. In my survey, which included equal numbers of Congo and Timneh Greys, 63 percent of the male Congo Greys changed their preference from the primary caregiver to another family member. They did this between the ages of two and three years. Sixteen percent of the female Congo Greys in the survey changed their human bonds. The trend indicates to me that if Congo Greys live in a family group or nursery situation, they may leave that family group to choose their mates as they become sexually mature, in order to keep the gene pool pure for the survival of the species. If male Congo Greys are the ones who select mates, that would account for the high percentage of males that change pair-bonds as they mature. In our human world, the primary caregiver may represent the family or nursery group to the young Grey, while the other human family member is the rest of the flock. But, what about the Timnehs in my survey? A big surprise to me was that no Timnehs of either sex changed their pair bonds. Some even added the other human into a multiple bond at various times in the Grey’s development. There were no rejections of primary caregivers, as with the Congo Greys. The natural assumption here is that perhaps Timnehs don’t live for extended periods in family or nursery groups, so they do not have to reject that group (or human) in order to find suitable mates. http://www.africangreys.com/articles/greys/species.htm