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Try this....................... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fYApr_J-hE

Thank you all,...Jill, that is an excellent possibility...and agreed, there is no way to prove it. Dan, here is another question...how many degrees of separation is there between empathy and telepathy? (This pertains to all psychic phenomenon) I have a feeling that any questions that involve the paranormal will take a long time to answer.. Maggie

Hola everybody! Finally...mama just left the computer long enough for me to get on...she says she has "homework" but I think it is just an excuse to play on the computer...cause she talks to herself and she is always saying "No Salsa, I don't need your help'. Obviously she does but she is too stubborn to admit it...(she gets that from me):rolleyes: Mama and I share a special game she calls "Step Away from the Cockatiels". Every morning after she comes home and every night, she goes into the other room and cleans the cages. I LOVE to go in and supervise...and I REALLY LOVE to climb up on the high cage and stand up really high and look around. Those little birds that look kinda like Tango live in there and once in a while they try to nip at my toes but I set them straight fast. ;)Then, Mama and I play our little "Salsa, Step away from the Cockatiels" game. I like to play hard to get and go all the way back to the corner cause Mama is so short, she can't reach. Then I tell everybody to "Step up" cause it is important to learn how to do that. When I get tired of that game, I come over and let her pick me up. By that time, her hair is sticking out everywhere cause she keeps putting her hands in her hair and pulling...I think she likes it that way cause she wears it that way a LOT! Ooops, gotta go...Joe's coming...if I hurry, I can play with his toys while he's busy...hehehehe!

LOL...Spock once told me, rather matter-of-factually, "When I tried to mind-meld with Jay, I got a headache. I will try again in a few generations when man's mind has evolved."

Is this evidence of a psychic experience by a Grey? Read the story under the short video while listening to what the Grey is saying. My African Grey Fluffy is a gift from Heaven, he just turned 3yrs old but he's way beyond his years. He amazed me a couple of month ago which just blew my mind away. 2 month ago my nephew who's nickname is "Onn na" was fighting for his life following an appendix surgery, his infection went into his bloodstream which caused him to go into septic shock. He was in a coma for 4 days, fortunately his body responded to anti-biotics and made a full recovery. This video was recorded while my nephew was in a coma in I.C.U. Fluffy felt that there is something wrong with "Unn na". In this video Fluffy keeps on calling "Unn na" which has never happened before. Also while my nephew was in a coma fluffy hardly had an appetite, he wouldn't eat his treats which has never happened too, Fluffy started eating normally once my nephew was out of his coma. I felt Fluffy's sadness right away, which just amazed me, he can sense illness of a close family member, wow! Mind you my nephew doesn't live with my Fluff.

Joe has learned how to say no, and emphasizes his point…(oh boy!) Last week, I was in a hurry because we had to catch our bus for an appointment and I was running late trying to play catch-up. I finally had corralled everyone else back to their cages with their snacks except for Joe. When I approached him, I told him, “Come to mama, Joe, we have to go bye-bye.” He looked me in the eye, turned his head and said “No!” OMG, it was so funny! I started laughing, even though I didn’t have time for that. Joe had always been the most docile of the bunch, never giving me a hassle when it was time to leave. The next morning, I was fixing their breakfast and I had just called Joe to come over. He stopped for a moment, stood still and then slowly shook his head side to side…I was shocked. I had Tango do that to me as a NO when she did not want to go back to her cage but Joe had to take the time to shake just his head back and forth in a conscious effort. Joe loves to help me with the other birds and their instruction…This morning, Salsa had been more “exuberant” than usual and Jay had had a bad night so I was trying to keep them quiet. I stood holding out a piece of toast to Salsa trying in vain to distract her while holding out a piece of wood to Tango who had decided to start her vocalizations in sympathy. Joe popped up with “Want this Salsa? Want this Tango?” An interesting point concerning Joe…in the last few months he has undergone a complete metamorphism once again. Instead of the normal behavior of asking questions, saying cute things, random sentences, etc., Joe had become an authority figure….an equal to Jay and I. His speech, his actions are matter-of-fact…staying to the point of the conversation at the time. Joe offers his own opinion and advice now and often gives us his two-cents as an equal entity. It seems he regards himself as on par with us humans…he makes statements now, “I want dinner”, “I want to go bye-bye”, “I want to go see Papa”, etc. He states his likes and dislikes now…What other changes are in store? What new wonders will Joe surprise us with?

Thanks Dan. That whole area is prolific with various types of cancer cases. This is above Mercury, Nevada going toward Tonopah. We have not gone back so we have not seen how they encased the suits. Jay is going to see if he can digitally copy the tape and see if you can still hear the clicking. If he can, he is going to post it.

Hi! Thanks Jill, what a great story! I will be looking up that book too...sounds good! LOL, Dan...love that acronym! Here is an interesting true story...A few years back we took a day trip to Beatty, Nevada which is a ghost town. At the same time, we visited Goldfield which has the Goldfield Hotel (this had been featured in a number of shows for the paranormal) because we love ghost towns. Beatty is a little town skirting the Nevada Nuclear testing sites where the atomic bombs had been set off in the 1950's. It is also the home of Rhyolite (a wonderful little ghost town). Rhyolite had no water source so everyone drank beer, including children since it was cheaper to bring in beer than it was to bring in water. Next to Rhyolite and Beatty are miles upon miles of fenced and guarded cyanide rock waste, the residual waste of the gold mining process that will remain poisonous for many years to come. In Beatty we visited their quaint but very interesting local museum. It was located in an old Victorian style house so all the displays were set up in individual rooms. Jay was walking and taking movies with our Super 8 Movie Camera and we went from room to room (It was early and the place was empty but for us) filming. We entered a room with atomic energy paraphernalia. There was tools of the trade that related to the atomic testing era, including Geiger counters, turn of the century hospital beds, shovels, etc. and hanging on a far corner wall was two white protective radioactive suits complete with gloves and helmets. As Jay did with all the rooms, he stood in the doorway, panned the room with his camera and zoomed in on the suits before leaving for the next room. We finished our tour which was a lot of fun and headed home. After returning home, we had invited our son over for a night of home movies (under much protest-under we told him we had films of one of the Chicken Ranches from Nevada. As a side note, there are more Chicken Ranches in Nevada than there are Denny's..LOL) A little bit about the camera...since this was about ten years ago, the camera was not digital. It used a 8 millimeter video tape, similar to what a cassette player uses. It also had a directional microphone which picked up sounds directly in line in front of it. Example, if you are filming a person, it will only pick up the sound of them talking directly into the camera. Everything went great...all the shots of the museum were filled in complete silence except for our occasional narration since the museum had been empty. When the scene came up with Jay stepping up to the doorway of the atomic energy room, things were still quiet. As the camera panned toward the suits, we started hearing a clicking that progressively got louder. By the time the camera had zoomed into the suits, the clicking was extremely loud and then progressively became quieter as the film had panned away from them going into silence once we had left to another room. When we were there personally in the room, we heard nothing. It was the sensitivity in the camera that picked up this residual radioactivity, much like a Geiger Counter. The amount of radioactivity was far higher than in any other room or outside since the camera never picked up anything else. While watching this, our jaws dropped and we looked at each other...(we looked at the camera and it glowed green in the dark...hehehehe!) As another side note, we contacted them and they enclosed the suits in a safe encasement.

Hi Dan, Sorry I didn't answer sooner...I had to take Jay to the Vet today...always a fun time to be had by all...LOL...We like your last explanation the best...LOL...At the time this happened, there were no lights on because there was plenty of natural light coming in but we did not think about checking whether a clock or anything else electrical was working. We don't believe in all things paranormal but we do believe in ufology and future space science. After all, it is only logical...Then you have the whole Serenity universe...lol...we really scrutinize the paranormal..there has to be some essence of science and possibility in 3% of unknown or unexplained sightings or other occurrences. As far as Greys go...I believe there is a lot of their mental capabilities that we are unaware of at this time. I do not believe they are limited by what the scientific community states today as fact...In the beginning, far, far away, long, long ago we had the dinosaur...intelligent, cunning, master-minds of their environment...the raptor. Man came along and became the top sentient being...is the Grey the next sentient being to stand beside Man? Something that we always taught and believed in ..."Anything that has happened or will happen in the future has already happened in the past. It just re-invents itself. Nothing is new in this universe.When it happens, we'll know...deja vu..." (Jay's quote)

Hey Dan, (Jay says hi!) your post was great! We need to understand all aspects of a situation in order to understand and reach conclusions or even come up with new theories or hypothesis. You always need to crawl before you walk. Even as early as a century ago, ideas that we thought were cast in stone are being proven incorrect...or with new possibilities. Engineering is a good science...it shows us how things work and gives us a basis to build off of and formulas for success. Until we find a new atom or a new way to build a bridge, we stick with engineering facts that we know are proven to work....and then someone will come along and say "Hey, I found a quark"...or a molecule that is 1000x stronger than what we are using..and here we go again...LOL...I agree that dust orbs and EMF meters have nothing to do with paranormal...I'd like to tell a story, though...we lived in a condo many, many, many years ago...(please interpret this as you wish)...the living room was rectangle with a window on the east wall, and a glass sliding door on the north wall leading to the patio. The curtains were closed....my mother-in-law (Mom) and our two boys were sitting on the couch between Mom and the patio window and we were down the hall in the back bedroom which was in direct sight of the living room. It was a bright summer day and all of a sudden, we noticed that the living room toward us slowly became darker until it was as dark as night. We went to the living room to see what was going on and within this short period of time, it was already beginning to lighten up to normal. When we got to Mom and the boys, we asked them what was going on. Mom, with the boys in agreement, told us that a bright small object (that emanated light) slowly entered through the wall at about six feet high, transverses around an overhanging cabinet and exited out to the patio at which time, the room had begun to lighten up. We called Southern Cal Edison and they had received a number of calls and were having electrical problems in this grid area. So...it was not an orb...it was visibly seen by three people and the side effects by two other people...what was it? We don't know.... Forgot to mention, all the birds went strangely quiet, then when it was over, all hell broke out......

Hola!!!....Salsa here...parronts can be such a pain...I always go "Cluck, cluck, cluck" and Babe and Papa call me their "evil green chicken"..(cause they love me SOOO much!) Babe always sings my favorite song about a farmer in a dell and I cluck every single time she sings about me and my clucking...(and on time and in rhythm too) When Papa asks Joe what I say, he always says "Cluck, Cluck", cause that is my favorite saying besides "Salsa is a GOOD girl!" and "Salsa is a pretty girl"....(Cause I am of course)....Babe loooves to play my new game...catch Salsa if you can. She is short so I know if I stand at the back of Joe's cage on top, she can't reach me, even when she gets higher on her box that she stands on...after a while I get tired of the game and pretend that I'm letting her get me so I can get my good night treat...but, I still give her a nip or two to keep her on her toes so she doesn't think I'm easy and can be bribed with treats...(I can, but she doesn't need to know that...sheesh!) You just hafta keep trying to train your mama...I know it's hard sometimes...boy can they be stubborn...just keep at her... Hahaha, Cricket, I poop on Papa and I know he loooves it cause he always says "Saaalllsssaa!" They don't let me near the walls anymore, or the cabinets, or the counters....hmm? Papa gives me some new plastic caps (Safety caps is what he calls them) from his needles that he saves for me and I looove to chew. He saves them in a bowl and I chew on them and spit them out...Joe likes to play with now too, but he pretends he is too good for that...Hasta la vista, baby....

Yes, it can be very hard to prove...Humans are more likely to take the time to respond and perhaps respond correctly to any number of situations or testing involving telepathy whereas our Greys will show spontaneously in actions that they might have telepathic abilities. A couple of personal examples: When our oldest son passed away unexpectedly a few years ago, we went through periods of extreme grief and mourning. Spock, our younger Grey, would often fly into the other room where Jay had gone to think and perhaps cry out of sight and land on his shoulder...gently beaking his cheek and placing his foot on his face and quietly saying "Papa..ok", not as a question but as a statement. Joe continues this action, never seeing Spock do this. Our son's urn on the mantel is a simple grey urn. All our fids stay away from it...Spock used to go to it about once a week, walking quietly with his head down and softly beak it, place his foot on it and say "Papa". Joe has done this lately and then flies to Jay afterward and kisses him on the cheek. Does this mean anything? I don't know....Various ways that you can look for and compare with other person's experiences might be looking for instances of anticipation and excitement, vocal references to things or actions...example, you have been planning to go somewhere or do something but did not mention anything aloud and your Grey will ask "Go bye-bye?" or something that would acknowledge that someone or something will be happening without any vocalizations beforehand. The best way to test is for people to be in contact with each other on the same subject and compare stories involving time-frame, context, etc. I am sure that you have noticed that your Grey knows when you are coming home, even if it is a different time everyday. Jay has seen this happen many times before I come home, as have each of you, I am sure. Now, the N'Kisi Project...This is either true, partially true or a hoax. This occurred many years ago and was well documented but disappeared from the face of the web...Here is a site page....check it out....Readers comments on their experiences with their own parrots show that this is where the truth lies...Thank you... http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=are+african+grey+parrots+telepathly&ei=UTF-8&fr=moz35

Hi, Maggie here....we don't believe in all things paranormal but for those that don't know, our Greys see in the UV spectrum. When they look at each other, they are not looking a grey and red...that also means that when they look at us or anything living, they see the electromagnetic energy exuding from our body (Aura?). There has always been quite a bit of speculation that Greys are telepathic. What spectrum do they hear in? So, this is just something to think about our enigmatic Greys....hmm.....Thank you, Maggie

Hi, here's a example of what Jay and I [Maggie] feed the fids lol. There's many wonderful diets on this forum.....Thanks Maggie http://www.greyforums.net/forums/showthread.php?190462-We-Feed-Our-Fid-s!!!-Update

Thank you Judy from both Jay and I......Maggie

Joe loves his treats and when I was making dinner one day, he began demanding a good nut. I told him there was no good nuts until he ate dinner and I was making it for him. He demanded his good nuts a few more times after which I would tell him again, after his dinner. I finally finished prepping and dished up the food. I told Joe that when his dinner was all gone, he could have his good nut and he replied "Okay!" in a sulky tone. He turned and started eating and I walked away to serve the other birds. I heard a big crash and ran back into the kitchen. Joe looked at me and said "Dinner all gone! Want good nut!!" (lol...What a smartie!)

Gee Dan, thank you and all of you for your suggestions...I know what you mean. Jay is such an old duck...I tried toys in the bath but after two laptops, it got to be too expensive... and the mouse does not float! Ice cubes sound like a good idea. The old mallard is so numb he would never feel it. Maybe I could get some shots of Jay bobbing for ice cubes...hmmm, maybe I could try an apple in there too...????:confused:

The first [sweet sounding voice] is Tango saying "Step-up" and " Papa", the other voice is Salsa saying "Step-up, Salsa and Salsa's a good girl" Yes, Joe agrees.lol. Their giving me a hard time when I try to take photos of them................I'll post when I get more.................

Working on it.............HeHeHe

" LOL- A Gentlemanly and refined Grey can only take so much cackling from the mentally challenged and childish company... very smart!!! OMG...ROFLOL...Thanks Dan, How true...

With a houseful of parrots, you can imagine that it gets a "Little Loud" and chaotic at times in our household. It is like having a number of babies...when one starts crying, they all start. When the birds get going, the dog starts barking at them and Jay gets frustrated, yelling "Rolo" and clapping to get his attention and quiet him down. Joe has made the mental leap from yelling at Rolo to shut up by saying "Rolo!" and making a clapping sound to yelling that phrase and sounds to the neighboring dogs to using this phrase and sounds whenever he wants anyone to shut up. Lately, when Salsa or Tango show their exuberance for life by yelling at the top of their lungs and then back and forth with each other. I have been trying distraction tactics by offering them a toy or treat with a "Here! You want this?" This morning, I was in a hurry when I got home from work because we had appointments and I had to get the birds fed, changed and ready for us to leave. Salsa and Tango were having their daily "I'm happy to be alive" and "I want attention" scream-fest which caused all the other birds to chime in to varying degrees. Apparently, Joe had had enough because he started saying "Rolo!!" and clapping at them. After numerous unsuccessful attempts to get them to quiet down, Joe changed tactics and started saying "Here! You want this?" Finally, he flew off to play in the relative quiet of the kitchen saying "I've got to go Bye-Bye". He had reached his limit too! It was too, too funny....Maggie

Hola everybody...hehehehe!!! ¡Feliz Año Nuevo! and Gracias

Hola Rocky....Whoo Hoo!! Another one of my kind!!!! Tell her you are not a bad bird...you are a ZON...and you have artistic license (that's what Papa tells Babe I have). A little plaster between friends...what's wrong with that? You should see the hole in the wall behind my cage...and the cabinet doors in the bathroom...and the bedroom door...and Papa's fingers...Babe is always threatening to get an aquarium (Whatever that is) and then I turn my head and blink my eyes and touch my little beaker to her bigger beaker and she is putty in my hands....hehehe! I looooove water....and water loves me! Tell her water dries...(eventually)...I'm not worried about Santa...Santa knows that a ZON just loves to have fun! Besides...when you don't have toys, you can always make your own! Then, they will buy you more just to keep you busy and out of their hair....hehehe...well, gotta go...dinner is coming...and I NEVER pass up a meal...

Joe here, you did a wonderful job, Thank you.. I'm sorry, I didn't mean to offend you with my remark about tears, we all know how strong you are.....[Maggie]

Joe here... Momma didn't mess up. Tango, Salsa and I and all you birdies know she didn't! Momma is here for us all and she will take every precaution to make sure it doesn't happen again. Momma is your good bird. When those salty wet things run out of her eyes, just give her a kiss. That will make her feel better and she will know you are not upset with her. Get Momma to get you some cranberry juice and sip on that for your throats...Talk to you soon.