Dave007

Hi there Listen I'm also new to this whole bird thing so I need to ask---how is a grey *disobedient*?? And please tell me what can I possibly do to stop my bird( also a timneh) from being such a naughty bird. Sometimes, he just drives me crazy:confused:

A moment of prayer for the terrible tragedy that happened for the people in Asia who are starting this new year in a sad horrible way. Their future new years will never be happy again.

You've got a really cute bird. Seems like she has a good personality. You should feel very lucky that she likes to bathe in the upper cage tray. Many greys won't bathe in type of area. Good luck.

Well, the choice is yours. As far as that initial full vet check with blood work ----it's more than enough. The vet will give you the final results. You can get the bird quicker.

If the owner is actually go thru that whole thing with vet--2x, then it's great although not necessary. Quarantine for new birds is simple. A person brings a bird that hasn't been checked by a vet into the house and keeps it away from any other birds for 30 days. That 30 days is for the new owner to take the bird to a vet. If any problems exist or show up on that bird, then the bird is no good. More than likely, any bird that's been kept in good health and a good living situation and environment won't be sick. You already know where the Caique is coming from. It's a healthy bird. BUT------- ***** ebola suits and decontamination station requirements.***** Where do you live? Wild animals can get ebola PS---think twice about mixing those 2 species. It may cause problems.

Personally, I would really worry about the 2 dogs as far as their short term and long term reactions towards each other. Both of those breeds have potentially aggressive personalities and you can;'t realy know whats gonna happen both now an the future. You may be wise to get the male neutered. A male bothering a female who's not in heat can be a nasty situation. Males don't know any better. I have a Brittney spaniel and he won't put up with any other dogs around him, male or female. As far as my greys, he has no interest but another dog would cause a lot of trouble in the house. He'll try to piss on them showing his dominance. He'll even do that at the vet's office. Sophie?? Well you can put her anywhere.

Ok, I'll check that out is see what happens. Thanks very much.

I'm wondering if someone here can tell me how to put something on Craigslist. I never dealt with it before. I don't know how to list things or what area to list it in. I have a 125 gal aquarium tank with a wooden cabinet with some orarmants and artificial plants. The tank is used but in great working condition. The only thing wrong with it is that the interior needs to be cleaned which is normal for any used aquarium. The stand solid and made of wood and has cabinets in it. From top tp bottom the whole unit is approx. 6 ft tall. I wanna get rid of it for $50. It's just too big for my house so if anyone can mail me complete instructions and area concerning listing on Craigslist, I'd appreciate it. When I go to Craigslist, I get lost. This is what it looks like http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v50/DaveVP/_121.jpg My Email addy is grettz@Hotmail.com

That can happen when parrots like to chew on items that have pointed edges such as a square box. They bite down on the edges causing a skin marking that sometimes goes away or sometimes doesn't If everything is cool, eating, playing, chewing shouldn't be a problem. Call it a battle car. If it does go away, it may take quite a while.The only time thing to really worry is when that area swells up in a short amount of time. Compare it to a human skin blotch. A person goes outside, the arm is in the sun, and the person developes a mark that looks bloody but isn't. Sometimes that person id left with a slight mark ( with no color) on the skin area or sometimes it doesn't leave any marks. 6 mts has gone by, no increase or decrese in the area?? I would just keep a periodic eye on ir OR you csn go to a vet now. It's up to you.

Just a joke. Laugh a little. Now is the time for holiday cheer. Ho, ho, ho.

Let me guess Hmmm, your groomer/ trimmer has the solution?

***completely UNSAFE for my birds** How come it's unsafe?

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People shouldn't be so worried about killing mice or rats. Remember that they carry vermin. They can spread infection. Their droppings can hurt other domestic house pets. Humane?? Come on, disease shouldn't be quickly accepted by anyone. I believe that the quicker the kill the better. Mice and rats can get into garages and basements when the fall starts fading. They hide, they constantly breed and they infiltrate anywhere they can get into. A mouse only has to be 2 mts old before it can breed. They constantly leave droppings because they have no bladder. They're destructive. I've seen some extremists who actually try to find humane ways to get rid of roaches. Those people have no idea what they're dealing with. Any surefire trap for rodents that's used to get them is the best. The same goes for roaches. The only reason I don't recommend glue traps for rodents is because many people forget to check the traps frequently and one of the worst things to experience is the smell of a dead mouse or rat stuck on the glue. Otherwise, glue sticks or glue traps and any other deadly guaranteed mouse traps are fantastic. What's great about D-Con is that it's not an instant killer. The mouse eats that stuff because it tastes good and then brings it back to the nest, the babies eat it and within a week they're dead.

Bring him to a bird whore house. He'll definitely be pleased and have a huge grin for you. He'll know you understood his situation and he'll be very,very grateful. He'll know you're reading his body language.:cool:

Usually, adoption papers or set rules have to do with getting a bird from a legal rehoming establishment. They set the rules and then tell you that they have the right to visit in the near future to make sure that the bird is generally taken care of concerning abuse, living conditions. The standards of care don't have to be the way the bird was taken care of. As long as things are decent, the birds haven't been abused and are provided with decent living conditions, then the agreement is fair. To be more clear, the adopted bird doesn't have to in the exact envirornment as it was. If you take a bird that was allowed to fly around but you decide to keep the bird in a cage, that doesn't mean the new living conditions are bad, just different but all of that all has to do with getting a bird from a rehoming/adoption center. Concerning your situation, the only thing that has to be done is to tell the person that the bird will properly be taken care of. If you feel like you wanna be more exact, that's up to you. You also have an advantage here---you own parrots, your son is familiar with parrots and knows the general idea of how to take care of a parrot. All of that info can be easily passed on to the person. Personally, I wouldn't sign anything that would allow a person to constantly visit. The person is giving the bird away. The person should be grateful that the bird is going to a person who knows about parrots. Your son isn't adopting from an official adoption/rehoming organization. They can set RULES and the person taking the bird would have to abide by them. If a person doesn't like those rules, then they would go somewhere else. Not so with a simple rehome situation between 2 people. Do what want but I wouldn't sign anything. Like I said, the person should be grateful that lots of time will be given to the bird by the new owner. Talon I take back everything I said in this thread. I had misread your post and was under the impression that that you were adopting the bird free of charge. I didn't know you were purchasing the bird. I was under the assumption that you personally knew this person.

Hi Linda The vet visit is a must but you should know a couple of basic facts because your birds are 28 yr old adults. After looking at the pics, it's obvious that the birds ned a certain type of misting with something other than water. There's a product called ALOE VERA JUICE which can be purchased at the large department stores which sell it. It's a liquid, is non toxic, doesn't burn and is very soothing. Many bird owners use it. When getting it, don't be surprised that the bottle says nothing on it that has to do with birds. MDs tell people to drink this when they have digestive problems. It should be used full strength in a mister and besides getting the bird very wet you should try to get as much of the skin wet. That reduces dryness on the skin. Do this on a constant basis--1x or 2x a day everyday. Do that to both birds. Now as far as the bird who is a heavy plucker---the bird is 28 and it's very hard to know whether this is a chronic or acute condition. Sometimes birds will start doing this and never stop(chronic). The bird actually feels more comfortable by plucking. With other birds, they do that and stop and may not pluck for a long time or even forever( acute). At 28 yrs of age I would,t be surprised if his situation is chronic That plucker needs another product that should be put on and massaged on those bare spots. That product is called ALOE VERA GEL. It's also non toxic, doesn't burn and won't hurt if accidently ingested. Keeps those damaged area less dry and many times, it discourages the bird from constantly picking and pulling on those follicals. That should be repeated 2x per week. That item also says nothing on the label that it pertains to birds. It's also used by loads of bird owners. Both items are relatively inexpensive. The juice and gel will cost a total of about $16 to $18. Try to get these items at Walmart. If you can't, just remember that the items may cost a few dollars more.

You're right. I didn't see the blue throat color on the bird's throat in that photo.

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It's not unusual for a grey to draw blood when plucking because there's areas that will bleed easily. Usually, the bleeding stops and there's a bloody clot area that can be seen where the plucking happened. You should take a paper towel or rag, wet it with warm water, gently wipe off the clot. Then take some skin cream and put a bit on the wound. As far as tranquilizers, that won't help because if a bird is intent on plucking, it will no matter what drugs you give. Your vet should have known this and told you.

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