Mama CJ Posted April 11, 2012 Share Posted April 11, 2012 Kaytee Exact has a recall on some of their products. I lost a baby IRN from the same symptoms but the can I was using wasn't on the recall list. I called and reported it to Kaytee. http://www.kaytee.com/pet-birds/kaytee-exact-hand-feeding-update.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayd Posted April 11, 2012 Share Posted April 11, 2012 I quit using "Kaytee" over four years ago!!!!!Same reason I like "ZuPreem Embrace" formula...it has higher protein for Greys etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elvenking Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 So, this is the formula that I give Isaac as a treat. This is the frightening thing. What this means is that Kaytee does NOT have quality control in place to test every batch! I am not using the Kaytee brand for this. That is too frightening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayd Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 Kaytee sold out, quit their testing and close there labs, yes, baby's were lost...You can use Lafeber hand feeding formula, it's rice based, yum, good...Jayd,,P.S. it comes in a smaller amount and cheaper... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elvenking Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 Kaytee sold out, quit their testing and close there labs, yes, baby's were lost...You can use Lafeber hand feeding formula, it's rice based, yum, good...Jayd,,P.S. it comes in a smaller amount and cheaper... I will get a batch and see if he likes it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayd Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 I will get a batch and see if he likes it. It doesn't taste to bad!!! lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 It doesn't taste to bad!!! lol Hmm. I'll have to taste Ellie's pellets to see if I can tell why she loves them so much... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayd Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 Hmm. I'll have to taste Ellie's pellets to see if I can tell why she loves them so much... The best is "TOP's" treat, you'd be surprised how many people buy it for them selves. TOP is the best pellet/seed there is on the market...Jay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimijean Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 Stop eating your birds food!! LOL Xandir was fed some of the "bad" formula. He and his siblings have gone to a vet for blood tests, we're waiting for the results. His breeder has said I can wait for another baby if I want but I really don't think I want to. No matter who "owns" Xander he may, or may not, have related issues in the future. I have an avian vet and a credit card just for my animals. So I should be able to give him whatever care he may need. Kim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 Ellie's food isn't too bad! A bit fruity (some apple?), a bit nutty, a bit toasty... I don't think I'll make a regular habit of snacking on her food, though. I prefer my snacks salty... Kim, was Xandir showing any symptoms? I'm not a biologist, but it seems like vitamin D toxicity (hypercalcemia) is not a long term concern if the cause is stopped and the bird is well hydrated to flush the kidneys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimijean Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 Ellie's food isn't too bad! A bit fruity (some apple?), a bit nutty, a bit toasty... I don't think I'll make a regular habit of snacking on her food, though. I prefer my snacks salty... Kim, was Xandir showing any symptoms? I'm not a biologist, but it seems like vitamin D toxicity (hypercalcemia) is not a long term concern if the cause is stopped and the bird is well hydrated to flush the kidneys. Yes. Stunted growth, little activity, throwing up. He has improved TONS already. One vets report that I read said long term would depend on how much damage was done. ?? We should have the test results early this next week. He was the only one hand fed from day one but I don't know if he was on the "bad" formula the whole time. Kim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 I guess the concerns are kidney damage and soft tissue calcification. I think that both can be diagnosed via testing/x-rays but I'm not sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimijean Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 If all works out and I do still bring him home (so far that's the plan ) I'll have a copy of his tests results and plan on a follow up visit with my avian vet based on his recommendations. Kim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayd Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 When "Kaytee" sold out and went to the dark side, we lost 8 baby "Tiels" we switched to ZuPreem formula, that was around 2009. Never used "Kaytee" since......Jay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayd Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 I get a lot of members/people asking me " If its bad for our birds, why do pet food makers put it in there products?" Money, their selling a product nothing more, all company aren't this way,just some, and in "Kaytee's" case, one we trusted for a long time. Sometime read the ingredents in a product and see the dangerous ingredients, one such product I'm aware of contains "Grit". Most Pet foods contains "Fillers" some contain over 50 %....In some cases it's the bottom line is the dollar... Peanuts are cheap, they add weight and bulk= Dollars, last year we test 20 bags of food from a store, 18 bags had mold on the peanut shells, no recall was made. That's why I'm so strong on peanuts, salt ,sugar, etc. I've seen the effects of all these, I've lived with it.. Thank you. Jay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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