KevinD Posted December 19, 2016 Author Share Posted December 19, 2016 Because he has to go cargo I hope its not too cold there for him, it can get mighty cold in cargo, hope all goes well and we hear from you soon that Sukei is in the states with you and doing fine. I did think about that, and in keeping with there are no hard fast rules or a handbook or SOP for an operation such as this, this is all I have to go on. http://www.qrcargo.com/qrlive I hope they live up to their advertising. I believe I am emotionally spent lol, I was apologizing to Sukei all last night for what I was about to put him through, but I think his chances are better this way then leaving him here...... Hope I made the right decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRSeedBurners Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 Well, that page gives me a lot better feel about it than them just throwing him in a cargo hold. They'd kill every animal they shipped if all they did was put them in general cargo. Has to be pressurized and heated which I'm sure they'll do if that's what you're paying for. Can't wait to see lil Sukei state-side. Where to by the way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inara Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 Kevin, will keep fingers X'd for your beloved Sukei and let's hope that the "invisible piper," pipes Sukei safely home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdhouse Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 If good thoughts are worth anything... Please do not forget to update us! There are a bunch of people all around the world who want to hear how Sukei greeted you when you landed state-side AND THEN, we will expect periodic updates for the next 8 yrs or more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chezron Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 Good luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinD Posted December 27, 2016 Author Share Posted December 27, 2016 This is it, time for Sukei to go, all the permits filed/approved, the FW agents notified, quarantine ready to except, and my pet company in US on stand by to pick up. I thought you guys might like to see what we rigged up to send him in. I had to follow some CITES and IATA requirements and specifications. AGAIN they make it difficult because there are no "APPROVED" travel cages, just specifications to follow. The next 48 hours are going to be hard on him and us, and again I thank you guys for your support. Kevin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRSeedBurners Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 Good luck to Sukei! They can withstand a lot. I just watched as a drama played in NC where a grey escaped and was perched in a tree with overnight lows of 27F. Took them three days to get the bird down. Wasn't aware they could survive that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timbersmom Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 Praying for a safe trip! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chezron Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 Hope it all goes well and he arrives home safe and sound! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murfchck Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 Best wishes for a safe trip home! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greywings Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 Bon Voyage Sueiki. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greywings Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 Bon Voyage Sukei. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neoow Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 Wow, fantastic news. Safe travels, Sukei! Do keep us all posted with any progress. I've been following this thread with interest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inara Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 Fingers X'd and best wishes for a safe journey for Sukei!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinD Posted December 29, 2016 Author Share Posted December 29, 2016 Well, he made it. Thats the good news. The bad news is some bean counter over at Fish and Wildlife doesn't like the way the CITES permit was filled out by the Kuwaitis, even though they already saw it, and issued all the import permits. Not sure what is going to happen. I may end up standing tall before the man. But the important part, is Sukei is home. I can fade any heat they bring down. Sukei will be out of quarantine in 30 days, Ill be out of here and home in 26 days. Thanks guys again, Ill post pictures when its over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRSeedBurners Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 oh good news. Please keep us updated until then if you know anything. Who is caring for Sukei in quarantine? There's definitely some recourse if the bean counter wants to be a turd. One post onto the Grey groups on FB and he'll see a mighty shit storm descend upon him. One thing I know about the Grey crowd, they fight among themselves like...a flock of greys....but when the word gets out that someone needs help, they all pitch in. Bean counter better get back to his beans and just leave Sukei alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdhouse Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 Crap! There just had to be one more jackass. You can't know if you can afford to be cavelier about this, either. Maybe he's just being an officious little toad who's making enough noise to justify his paycheck. Or maybe he thinks he's a by-gosh-do-gooder who could actually put Sukei down. Good thing you belong to the biggest support group of all. This must happen, I don't want to say often, but... Surely now that Sukei's finally state-side, there's a miliary family network that helps returning Vets get the Mr. Toad's of the world to see the light & just leave it alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inara Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 Oh for crying out loud! I would like to believe that the bean counter was/is well intentioned and is keeping a close eye on incoming species. However, often that is not the case and it can just be someone who is flexing what little authority they may have. If you do run into issues, here is a phone number for Dave Remple -- (US) 970-635-1850. He is an internationally well known avian vet, who set up the world's first falconry/raptor hospital in Dubai many years ago and is a board certified Diplomat in the European College of Avian Medicine and Surgery. He actually had a caseload of nearly 20K raptors throughout the Middle East after having set up the hospital and over his long tenure there. He was also personal vet to my wild caught rescue 'zon and Congo back in the 70's and 80's before he left to set up the hospital in Dubai. He is a great guy, has forgotten more about birds than most people will ever learn in a lifetime and is well versed in the comings and goings between the Middle East and the US. A phone call to him, if you run into a snag, may be helpful as far as having a savvy US avian vet be able to walk through any CITES issues over the phone with the bean counter. Let's X our fingers that this is just a speed bump and that Sukei and you will be reunited seamlessly!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chezron Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 I wish you continued good luck Kevin and Sukei! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinD Posted December 30, 2016 Author Share Posted December 30, 2016 Who is caring for Sukei in quarantine? Avian Quarantine Facility, The New York Animal Impact Center, Newburgh, New York. Well again thanks for the support, I made a statement in reply to my so called violation of the importation act. Im trying the carrot first, if that doesn't work, Ill bring a baseball bat not a stick. I advised the Kuwait CITES division that the US basically said they dont know what they are doing and not following the rules of the convention. (They were real happy to hear that) Have you ever seen a pissed off Arab? They reiterated, thats all there going to get, and it is legal. I am just happy Sukei is home, and I can fight on home turf. It is difficult to fight a war on the other side of the planet, as the US has learned the hard way. I talked with all the agencies involved, and they are all standing behind me, but I dont know if that is going to be good enough. The lady that cut the WBCA permit says Ill probably end up paying a fine, and that will be that, however if they really want to be schmucks they can confiscate Sukei. I just got to wait and see how it plays out. It also turns out it was good that I started that video website years ago documenting ownership of Sukei over the years, that may come into play if I have to lawyer up and go to court. More to come..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acappella Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 I can't imagine the stress you are going through with this. I hope everything works out, and that quarantine doesn't stress out Sukei too much. I hope the bean counter gets shingles! HA!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timbersmom Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 So glad to hear Sukei arrived safely! Prayers that she is well taken care of and that the paths smooths out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRSeedBurners Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 The lady that cut the WBCA permit says Ill probably end up paying a fine, and that will be that, however if they really want to be schmucks they can confiscate Sukei. Confiscating Sukei will lead to a lot of hate-filled pen pals. I hope they have other things to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinD Posted December 31, 2016 Author Share Posted December 31, 2016 This new years eve Im looking at Sukie's empty cage before I break it down for shipment, you know its amazing how they are like a real human being (Probably the best of us), they dont just repeat things they communicate, and know what they are saying. I wish all of you a Happy New Year, Sukei probably is in the best place to be for New Year, New York. They said they have TV monitors there so he will get to see the ball drop. Happy New Year to everyone....especially to those in Israel, may you find better treatment, then you have found in the current US administration. Kevin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neoow Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 Happy new year to you and Sukei. It's amazing how much our grey's understand and how much they try and communicate with us. They take over our lives and steal our hearts- in the best kind of way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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