ziggy

Hello, This is normal behavior for a 10 month mold bird. Ziggy is almost a year and still does it. As for the foods you need to start feeding her some fresh veggies and fruits. More veggies then fruits. Fruits have natural sugars called pectin and to much is no good. Pellets are good and stay away from seeds and alot of nuts. Peanuts,almonds,cashews are all high in saturated fats. They are good only once in a while for treats. The suckling will soon stop it will not hurt her at all and she does not need to be fed. She is trying to get a reaction from you to see what she will get away with and what you will allow here to get away with. Greys are very very smart and love to test the waters to see what they get away with.

Hello, Welcome to the FAMILY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! we are here to help you with any questions you may have just ask and we will answer it for you. Again welcome to the FAMILY!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hello, Yes as others have pointed out this is normal. Baby birds will go through 3 differant set of feathers. 1) When a chick is hatched it is covered in its chic feathers.( yellow soft feathers). 2) They grow their baby down feathers ( lite grey in color and very fluffy) 3) They will stert to get their pins( when the pins open they will be the feathers you see on the bird). The stages are when hatched they are covered in yellow chic feathers that fall out in about 2 weeks. After they are out of their chic feathers they are bald and look like a naked chicken. At about 3 to 4 weeks they start to fill in their baby downs that are lite grey in color and are very soft and fluffy. The next stage is the pins they start at about 5 to 6 weeks and will grow out fully at about 10 to 12 weeks. By this time your bird should be on its final feeding and ready to be weaned.

Hello, 1 year is right in the perfect time frame to start there first molt. You probably have seen down feathers floating around the house and now he will start to loose some of his top feathers. They will replace their feathers all year long. Every 2 to 3 years they will go through a major molt. You need to keep an eye out to make sure he is not begining to pluck. I dought it he is within his time frame for a first molt. I would not be to concerned about it. If you notice he is begining to pluck you need to see a vet to get it looked at. But like I said he is in good shape according to you question.

your such a great mod we are lucky to have you here, and in the forum.:kiss:

Judy I think this tread needs to be moved to the grey room. :whistle: Just a suggestion to the mod of this room there missy. You know I love you Judy!!!!!!

Ziggy looks at me and just flips in the air onto his back and wants me to rub his belly. The funniest thing I have ever seen from a bird that wants attention. Kristin great video he is a nut that bird of yours HAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!! Ziggy comes up with something on a daily bases to shock me. He is such a clown this bird.

I dont have an ego at all. Ask anyone I deal with I am a persom that cares for animals with eveything I have inside. You dont know me so dont judge me until you do know what type of person I really am. I am very active in my time to make sure that people dont make mistakes in getting a pet. The worse thing to do is to get a pet and not forfill your end of the bargin.( again NOT DIRECTED TO YOU) just want to make that clear. When I say you or your it is in GENERAL not directed to anyone in the post.

Thank you Dan for the support I really thank you truely. I get hot under the collar about people taking what I said and flipping it around. I was only trying to help not start an argument at all. You know me I want to help people not get into debates over what I posted.

Welcome to the FAMILY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Like Dan said you have been active before you posted in the welcome room. Enjoy yourself here and ask as many questions you want there are great people here to answer them and help you with any problem. Again welcome to the FAMILY!!!!!

First of all I was simply trying to help YOU in YOUR delema. If you reread the post I said NOT TO YOU BUT IN GENERAL didnt I. You can take it any way you want. I am also involved in 4 rescues here in Florida. One is the Greyhound rescue for the largest group in the country so dont tell me about greyhound stats. The oldest track in the country is right here in St. Pete. I have worked very hard to have all tracks closed forever. I went to rescue 2 greyhounds about 4 years ago and since I have other dogs I was turned down. You are taking this to the next level so now you opened the door and I am going to close it for you. I was only giving you advise on how your partner can reach out to your birds. You can call it anything you want I dont care in the least. I have more exreriance then you will ever have. So if you think you have any advise for me you are very mistaken. I have been around birds for 25 years and I was trying to help you figure out to make peace with your partner and yor birds. I can care less if you take it or not. I have been active with bird rescues for many years and I tell you what I see in a week you would not see in a life time. If you like I will send you pictures of the kind of enviroments that these poor birds have to deal with. You would be flabergasted. I was not refuring to you in the post. You need to reread it again and see that I said it more then once that it was in generally speaking and not directed to you. If you think that then go right ahead. I know what I was saying. You can ask anyone in this forum I am always direct and upfront. There is no reason to beet around the bush. What you see is what you get. You dont like or anybody else oh well. I am not going to change to please anybody. To Dan and Judy thank you for the support. You know that I am not trying to pick a fight with Nychsa if Nychsa wants to think that then I could care less about how they take it. I was trying to make a point in general not toward Nychsa. Again thank you for the support.

It can work, your partner has to be dedicated to make it work. If he works with your birds and not be affraid of getting nipped he will make some progress. The key is to make friends with the bird and to have the birds trust him. He needs to make the conection with them. That is THEIR home and he needs to make the first move to show them he is a visitor and not a threat to there home. You need to make the choice to tell your partner,to make the first move to make it work between them. It is your house so your partner has to except that you have the birds in your life all the time and not only every other week. He is the one that has to respect their home as well as your home. The sad thing is that the birds are the ones that are always the ones that get the bad wrap. ( not so in your case ). A new baby comes, or a move is coming,or how about the owner dies and the kids dont want the bird. All of these things are taken out on the birds. You as a respectable pet owner need to make the desision when you buy a pet,I dont care what kind of pet that you get you need to make changes in YOUR life to make them feel loved, and not just get rid of pets because its easy to do. Pets have feeling and need to be treated with respect. If people can not have that kind of dedication to the pet then DONT GET ANY PETS. I go to dog shelters and want to cry when I see all the dogs that are up for adoption and when they are not adopted they are put to sleep. Did you know that 80% of dogs in the shelters are from people that just dont want them any longer. Not that they were lost or got out of the yard but because there owners have other things that are more important to them. They should have not got the dogs in the first place. This goes even more for birds. Do the reaserch before you get a bird. They will most likly out live you and you need a life long dedication to these long living pets. 100 years is a long time to have a pet but if you know this going into it you can make the choice before you purchase. This post was not directed to you Nychsa just in general. Alot of people just dont understand pets because they cant express themselfs. They can let you know what is wrong. But like everything else in this world it is just to easy to get rid of something just because you can. That even goes with us humans we get tired of or spouse and what we can just get a divorse because we can so easily. Its a shame that we can not learn to make the proper adjustments in our lives to make it right for each other, and for all of the pets that would love to be in a loving and caring home.<br><br>Post edited by: ziggy, at: 2007/12/16 16:50

sure would. nothing to hurt the bird in oatmeal

i will do the reading on him and find out. I was told this and read a article that he had others write what he was telling him. All in what I was told and read thats all. If I am wrong i will be more then happy to retract the statement.

I like hope it seems to fit the m.o.

First of all is she plucking here down feathers or her top feathers. Second is there anything that you have done to change her normal routine in your house. The move alone is enough to make them start to pluck. The leading cause of plucking is STRESS and being NERVOUS. This could be a reason for a trip to your AVAIN VET not just a regular vet. For the bath question if you bird is plucking you might want to lay off the bath for a while. Baths make birds preen and they will pull unwanted feathers when they are preening. But if you must give a bath you should give them a bath at least twice a week. Just whatch out for the preening. Try to give her something to play with when she is in the cage. This will take her mind off the plucking. You will need to also handle her alot more to also deture her from plucking. If this behavior continues you really need for the vet to check her out, and she might need to be put on prosac to calm her down a little bit.

Hello, Like I said earlier that greys are very smart yes and have a great talking ability but that takes time. At a year old they start to become more mature and they begin to make more sence of there words. We all must remember that not all greys are very good talkers. You need to have parience and spend countless amount of time to train them to talk as well as there species stereotype. There are many greys that dont talk but love to mock sounds instead. They will make the desision whether to talk or to mock. You need to except this if you are a grey owner. I see alot of people get very discouraged when there grey wont talk. If you buy them for this reason you bought them for the WRONG reason. You need to love them wether they talk,mock,or just do none of them. I am not saying that anyone here dont love there bird but you need to know that NOT ALL GREYS are very good talkers and you need to except that.

Thanks Dan and Judy, Being around all types of differant birds over 25 years You get to know what the signs are. You need to be aware of the signs you dont want to get nipped. I will say that there are many people here that are first time bird owners and need to aware of the signs. Just trying to put some good info up so they start to learn the do's and dont's. What I hate to see is that a bird has been under stress and then strikes the owner, and then the owner has to make the desision to either work with the bird or to rehome it. If the info is here for them to read they can understand better.

Have any body ever tried to give there bird grape nuts? I have and they all love it. It is low in sugar and high in fiber. A good choice for birds.

Dan as far as everything I have read he could not read or write. He was a mathamatical genius but he was illiterate. True story. If I am wrong please let me know if the info I have is false.

yeah Dan they are I could not believe the condition of the house they were in. You would have puked to see it.

You got that right Dan. It must have taken him about 2 to 3 hours o make it that far.

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My son was looking out our front window and says Dad you have to see this. I said what is it Joey ( he likes to break chops this kid) so I go outside and see this HUGE turtle on my front lawn. I went to go get the camera to take pictures for all of you to see this turtle. I picked it up it weighs like 80 ibs. Heavy darn thing. He just was like whats up I am going to eat your grass now ok. picture is under this post messed up putting in on this one I have a size 13 shoe so you can see how big this turtle is. After about a hour of watching him a guy drove up asking if we had seen a large turtle. I was like yeah he is right here. He took him back home he got out of his yard 3 blocks away. Cool hah!!! Post edited by: ziggy, at: 2007/12/16 00:56 Post edited by: ziggy, at: 2007/12/16 00:58 Post edited by: ziggy, at: 2007/12/16 01:50<br><br>Post edited by: ziggy, at: 2007/12/16 01:55

Hello, Good luck witht the new grey and welcome to the family. As for the plucking it can be a couple of things. He is nervous and he is using his feathers to pluck because he is nervous. Any changes in the home can trigger it also. Holiday decorations or a tree. He is board with him being in a new home he might be out of his normal routine. He is taking out his fustration on himself because he is in a new home setting. As you can see there are many reasons for this behavoir. Greys are the second most species for pluckers just behind the cockatoos. If he is 10 he was set in his ways and now it is all differant for him so he is nervous if you ask me. I hope he stops for you. Try holding him as much as possiable or give him alot of toys to keep him occupied and not board so he will not consentrate on plucking himself.