Dave007

""""" the phone sound, then make the sounds the push buttons do, then say, Hello? Oh Hi! Yup, uh-huh, then some gibberish..... then okay, yup, bye! Then they beep as if to hang up. Or sometimes they yell, MOM, or MATTHEW!""""""" Penny, did you happen to borrow one of my greys? Everything is exactly the same. Just substitute Matthew and put in SEAN! or GENE! Everything is exactly the same including the gibberish. I always wondered who Smokey was really directing that gibberish to. Of course! He was making a long distance to your grey. My wife and I are sitting here having a great laugh over this post and what you just said.<br><br>Post edited by: Dave007, at: 2008/10/24 03:39

A grey goes through it's first major molt at approx 9 to 11 mts. That time line can vary a bit but those are the general figures. Greys can go through earlier molts but usually, they look worse that their first major molt which is generally even ( the major molt-the bird molts evenly on all parts of the body) Early molting is usually more ragged looking. So, it's best that you post a picture of your bird so that people can give you accurate answers concerning the bird's raggy appearance.

No, you can't. When they don't want anymore, they'll totally snub the food. So if the bird is eating a lot of the items you named off there's no problem but as far as the eggs go, just once in a while. Try out other veggies too. It sounds like he has a good appetite and more importantly, he seems to like trying new things. Some birds won't do that. So, no problems.

If there's no escape, bring your animals into the basement. Air, smoke and fire travels upward and a cold basement lengthens the amount of time before fire will get there. Stay there with the animals. You'll benefit too.

I'd like to be honest with you. You really should get a refund or exchange. What just happened to you is why breeders have to agree to taking a bird back after seeing a vet. The initial exam is called a *wellcheck* and when there's a problem, the person is entitled to what he/she has paid for. I know you care for the bird but sometimes those feelings have to be put aside. Thae sad feelings you have now will lessen as you bond with a healthy bird that will give you what you're looking for. Think about it but don't take too long to make up your mind. Guarantees--warranties--exchanges expire quickly. I'm really sorry about what happened

Thanks very much for your wishes. I'll try to do my best. I want to congratulate HeatherStrella too. She is unique. Congratuations to Dan. He's a wonderful guy even though he lives in CAL. Dan, you do great things here. In my book, A-ONE<br><br>Post edited by: Dave007, at: 2008/10/23 02:17

"""""Has anyone on here had a parrot with sideturning foot? [where mum sat on it when small] Do they ajust o.k. or will it always have problems with balance? """" More than likely, it won't have problems in the future. You're only talking about a foot that's somewhat aimed outward. It'll just take longer to catch up to what the other birds are now doing. They will adjust. Splayed legs are a whole different story. The bird can't stand at all. When they're extremely young, some vets will construct splints for the entire leg/legs. There's birds out there that are missing a complete food and they adjust too.

The established bird is the #1 bird in the house and should remain so. The new bird has no idea about being the #1 bird in your house. Jealousy can develop if that's changed. Both birds need their own separate cages. They should be in the same room but the cages shouldn't be next to each other. Neither should feel threatened by the other. They'll start verbal communication when they think the time is right. They need to get used to the fact that another bird is nearby. The most important thing here is to do all things ie feeding, changing water, giving treats with your established bird first. That lessens any perceived threats to being #1. If your #1 is used to coming out of the cage all the time, continue that. Leave the other bird in the cage. This is temporary. If the new bird is used to coming out of the cage all the time, continue that but don't let them out at the same time. All of this will be temporary. The new caged bird can see the routine from a safe place. Lessen the amount of time that the new bird stays out of the cage because you need to learn all about the new bird and it's habits. Is he aggressive? Does he like to take off when approached? Does he behave when being retrieved? Constantly let one or the other out until it gets to be a routine. Then, with the cages apart, let both out at the same time. At that point both birds should be quite aware of the other's presence. Don't put the cages close together so that one has the ability to go after the other. This is temporary. They both need to feel that there's no threat and no surprise moves from each other. If you have a playstand that you use for the #1, it's best to get another one for the new grey. Putting the two birds together on one stand is only asking for trouble. That stand belongs to #1 and it should remain his and his alone. As with the cages, playstands should be kept apart but can be used by both birds at the same time. Only time will tell you the amount of friendship that will develop. Some learn to like each other from a distance. Others will like to be shoulder to shoulder. As time goes on and you see that the birds have no bad attitudes towards each other, you can then move the playstands closer and closer but it should be done in increments. Don't put any time limits on any of these things. With some birds it happens quickly; others, not so quickly. The most important thing here is you getting to know and learn about your new bird because it might be different than you heard when he was in another house.. It makes things easier to accomplish. Both birds have their own habits, likes and dislikes and you should be aware of them. That new bird might have some habits that have already developed so you should learn about them. Eventually, one bird learns to accept and like the other but how much is anyone's guess. Their personalities have a lot to do with getting along with each other. Take it real slow and easy with no time limits. Talk to both of them at the same time. Get the new bird comfortable not only with the Zon but also with you and your family and his new living conditions and family habits. These are the major starting steps in order to get 2 birds that aren't babies to accept each other.

I watch it on Tuesdays but also watch all the reruns on USA channel--I have DirectV.--my station is 242. Don't know yours but the reruns are still enjoyable. That young detective is a riot. Did you know that the actor who plays House is totally british. He trained himself to do the american language. I've seen him in some british films. The first time I saw him in a british film, I thought he was faking that. He does the american language like no one I've ever seen. I also saw him being given some award on TV. It was weird listening to him talk in his natural tongue<br><br>Post edited by: Dave007, at: 2008/10/22 21:10

No problem--good luck in your decision

All TOOs are loud. A grey is probably one of the quietest birds in the parrot world. """Since both birds are not going to be babies would it most likely mean the Grey would not get along with the Galah?"""More than likely, 2 cages will be needed and any socializing has to be done in small steps. BUT, that general rule should apply to most medium to large sized parrots.The exact same rules apply to greys too. It's impossible to say whether 2 parrots no matter what species will get along. People have 2 or more greys and they all want their own space. Other people have 2 or more greys and they hit it off immediately. They all have individual personalities. Just like greys, they'll be dust on different things. Only the TOO and the grey develop dander. As far as furniture and dust/dander goes, it depends on how close the furniture is to the bird. If both birds are compared to each other size wise, the TOO will give off a bit more dander than the grey but that's all relative. Both have dander and both are messy. A large TOO will develop more dander than a small TOO Affection--galahs enjoy physical attention thruout the day more than greys. A TOO locked up in a cage all day creates a very unhappy bird who will pluck very easily. So, they do need the play stand around. They enjoy being carried around alot and they're less likely to zero in on your earlobes but they do like to preen hair.<br><br>Post edited by: Dave007, at: 2008/10/22 20:41

1--the galah--also know as rose breasted Too is the same length as a small grey but weighs a little less--approx--360 to 380 grams 2--loudness--just like most other TOOs, they can be loud but not as often during the day. 3--they get along with other species as long as the birds are introduced as babies. 4--they will bite just like other parrots but if a person purchases an adult bird, the person needs to have some experience with older birds. 5--the best galah to get for the inexperienced person is a baby. 6--In the wild, just like greys, they're scavengers. 7--Cuddling--they will do that if it's started when the bird is very young. 8--Purchasing--it's best to get them from a breeder because they originally come from Australia and aren't as popular as the large Toos. 9--Child safe--they will put up with kids a little better than greys but again, the relationsjhip has to be started when the bird is very young and the child is of the age that when he/she is told not to do certain thins to the bird, he/she listens and obeys mom or dad. 10..if you in particular is thinking of purchasing one, you should get a very young one. 11--I don't know what you mean by *powder down/ dander* making a difference. A difference in what? <br><br>Post edited by: Dave007, at: 2008/10/22 20:16

TV Show--House Chase is now a surgeon--Cameron doesn't have the hots for House anymore. House has lots of fun in theclinic. Finally, Cutty is adopting a baby but she need wilson as a character witness, House is very upset. He wants both for himself. Too bad Amber died. Now, Wilson made believe he was falling for a hooker. At first Foreman left because he did'nt wanna be like House but no other hospital would hire him so he's back as neurologist. Poor 13, dhe has aboout 8 yrs left and last night her lover was told that she wouldn't die House liked to fire people, especially the new class. Too bad that old man had no medical degree. He was better than most. PS--1--Cameron looks better in blonde hair but she's still too skinny. She looks anorexic. 2--I'm glad that the 100 milliom dollar donater is gone. He was a real you know what. 3--That cop was a devil in disguise just because he had a thermotor stuck uop you know where for a long period of time.<br><br>Post edited by: Dave007, at: 2008/10/22 20:12

I do--what is it you wanna know about?

House? Woody? Is this a secret message or code? Please, I would appreciate further explanation if you don't mind.

Tyco is right. If you decided to wean the bird away ffrom formula, that might have been the wrong thing to do. Greys are at their heaviest when they're formula feeding. Some greys take a long time to wean away from formula. If your grey readily accepts the formula now, weaning was premature. Let the bird tell you when to stop. At a certain feeding, the bird will immediately gurgitate the food out and refuse it. When seeing that you should know that one formula feeding be eliminated. Replace with extra food such as pellets, green veggies cooked or raw. When weaning is totally finished the grey will lose weight. A small grey can be approx 375/385 gms. Medium, approx 390/425 gms. Large, approx 475/520 gms. Extra large,approx 540/570/600 gms. All of these weights can fluctuate either way.

You need to forget that idea that a bird is unhealthy if he isn't bathed. Many don't bathe for much longer than 2 weeks. It's a fallacy that they MUST be bathed constantly. A couple of people have already told you that 2 weeks isn't enough time for the bird to get used to things. Well, the people are all correct. Getting him used to other types of food isn't something that happens overnight. Many times, it takes months and the transition is done in small steps. You shouldn't be dripping water on him with a towel or any other item. Many birds don't like towels and that's not the way to start ff a relationship with a parrot. "" I've also been trying to handle his wings & feet so in the future nail-trimming and wing-clipping (if we go with that route) will be easier."" If you really think you have to do wings, that has to be done by a vet, not you. You're inexperienced with parrots and if you cut those wings you'll cut them in the wrong way, might make him bleed and turn him against you. The vet is the person that the biird should get angry with. ""I want him to live more than 10-15 years!""" In general, greys have a much longer life span than 10 to 15 yrs.

HeatherStrella He who is also she is shim Psalm 16... Old Testament... Book of David

Amazing! I look at the previous pictures of Harrison and I now look at the present pictures of Annabella. What can I say. The differences are absolutely fantastic. What a difference a name makes. I now know that Shhim has truly seen both sides of the fence.

So, to get back to your original important question--- """"""I'm wondering if I should wait until he's acclimated before taking him to the vet. Any thoughts on that one? He hasn't had his yearly exam and I'd like to have him seen soon. He's only been to the vet once before.""""""" If you indeed want to take him to the vet to get some type of checkup, then, do it now so that there won't be any future interuptions in the training/bonding process which when started should be done without any type of unpleasent situations to the bird.

CAGs and TAGs are probably the quietest of most all medium sized parrots.In fact many people pick them because they make very little noise. Some squawking once in a while but mostly whistling and making all sorts of sounds to himself plus lots of grumbling. If neighbors find the birds loud, do the neighbors a big favor and purchase a special item...go down to the nearest store and purchase a large newspaper that has many classified ads for different apts and give it to them. They'll be happy that you were nice enough to pay for the newspaper. If they don't want the newspaper simply use it for the birds cage trays.<br><br>Post edited by: Dave007, at: 2008/10/20 23:27

Ok, well lets see.. You could tell people that your bird discovered that she was a lesbian. You could say that eventually she met up with other like birds and decided that she wanted to be of the male persuasion. So, in order to complete the picture she decided to name herself Harrison. You could tell people that she lived the part extremely well. Then, you can tell people that she traveled cruising different areas and then met up with another bird of the same persuasion EXCEPT that this other bird lived and acted and she appeared to be much more of a butch And Harrison liked her alot and then you can tell people that she decided to rethink her situation and finally came to the conclusion that she would act out the female role. Then you can tell people that she decided to rename herself something feminine in order to complete the picture. Makes sense, right? Everyone's happy, you, Harianne and the people who kept asking the questions. Problem solved.

You should leave the bird's wings alone. With a proper well done clipping, a grey should be able to fly at least 6 to 8 ft in a horozontal path with little altitude although birds can still fly upward sometimes. Birds including cockatiels were made to fly. If your grey's wings are clipped any shorter he'll only be able to jump off of things and very easily fracture his breast bone. So you'd like to duplicate the flying ability of your grey with flying ability of your cockatiel? """"""meeeannn little mommy""""" Well, you said it and you were correct.

This is for anyone here that uses any MSN boards for whatever topic, pets or otherwise...... Microsoft to ditch MSN Groups? An e-mail snafu has led to the leak of Microsoft's decision to shutter its MSN Groups service, according to LiveSide.net. It's not a surprise, as MSN Groups was one of the last vestiges of Microsoft's Web services strategy pre-Windows Live. MSN Groups will be closing on February 21, 2009. It'll be replaced with a new service, Windows Live Groups, which debuts on November 17. Here's the catch: The LiveSide post indicates MSN Groups will not be migrating to Windows Live Groups; the new Windows Live service will be different enough so that the transition wouldn't be a clean one. Instead, the LiveSide post says that existing MSN Groups will transition to community site Multiply--in other words, Multiply is effectively acquiring MSN Groups from Microsoft. Representatives from Multiply, which said earlier this month that it has reached 10 million registered users, confirmed the news. Microsoft representatives released a longer statement: "It is true that we are planning to close the MSN Groups service on February 21, 2009 and will offer you the opportunity to move your group to our new partner service, Multiply. We understand the importance of keeping your group together, so we partnered with Multiply to create a migration process that moves your group to their service to preserve your online community and its history. This post was updated at 4:30 p.m. PT with comment from Microsoft. ________________________________________________________________________ MSN Groups to Close: Windows Live Groups to begin Nov. 17 We’ve been hearing rumors of the closure of MSN Groups and its replacement by Windows Live Groups for years now, last having written about it almost exactly a year ago. Now, however, in an email from Technical Support posted in the MSN Discussion public newsgroup, we have confirmation, and a timeline. In the email, a newsgroup poster who wrote Technical Support to ask for clarification on MSN Groups after an email went out to MSN Groups users in Italy telling them of the coming closure, and got a telling response. In the email, Claudia reveals that MSN Groups is “to close on February 21, 2009”, and that Windows Live Groups will launch on November 17, 2008. A post on the Community Feedback MSN Group, dedicated to Group managers, requested information as well, and received the following response, which while Geri doesn’t go into the detail that Claudia does, does seem to confirm at least that “change is coming”: Change is coming As you may have noticed we've made considerable investments across MSN and Windows Live to enhance your product experience while aligning our online services brands. As we make new product investments, our intention is to offer new products and capabilities while keeping you connected to your online network. Can you give me specifics? For now, unfortunately, I cannot give specifics about the new products and updates we have in the works. We will however be communicating updates in the near future so definitely be on the look-out for those. Any important announcements from Microsoft about MSN Groups will be posted at the MSN Groups homepage (http://groups.msn.com). In the near future, we hope to provide you with more information and establish communication channels through which you can provide feedback. We appreciate your continued support as we strive to provide you with the highest quality service available. Thank you for using MSN Groups.

I completely agree with Dan. This is basically the type of ad that's pretty common concerning how to get the person to send the money first. Sight unseen is bad news. The hell with those pictures. It's easy to pick any pictures and put them in an Email. if you send the money first and you're stuck with a bad bird, forget about getting the money back. Do the right thing. Always see what you're buying, not reading. You want another bird? There's plenty of places to buy one and they come with guarantees and warranties.