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Prayers in getting this poor bird.

Bless you all.

Well, check the other thread, the timing couldn't be more perfect: Possible rescue situation

Thank you everyone. My son's friend who is neighbors with this guy was working late today, so they'll try to speak with him within the next few days. We have an extra cage here, so that's good. My son will be taking him into his room for quarantine precautions if we're able to get him to relinquish him.

I hope you can rescue him...prayers

Several years ago, my son brought to my attention a neglected grey living nearby. The owners keep it in a rusted cage outside with very little protection from the elements. Apparently they only feed him seeds. My son mentioned that there are rat feces all around the cage, and that the owners never pay any attention to it. Unfortunately they weren't willing to part ways with him. Fast forward to yesterday. My son tearfully brought up the ongoing sad living conditions of this neglected grey. Apparently the owner now has early onset dementia, and often forgets to feed the poor thing. The owner's neighbor is a friend of my son's., and both he and my son plan to go over there within the next few days to see if he'd relinquish the grey to my son. His plan is to rehabilitate him and then find him a loving home. I'll keep you posted if we get him.

And I thought I had my hands full with three animals. I don't know how you all cope!! 😂

I'm fresh out of high school, and I am planning on adopting a grey from an associate, super sweet, but for personal reasons, they sadly can't care for him anymore, I am an experienced bird owner, finch, cockatoo, sun conure, duck, chicken, I have had em all, and I have no doubt I could take care of a grey in terms of attention on my current schedule, I am planning to do community college for 2 years, and I have a strong relationship with my parents, so they do not care if I stay there, BUT, after these 2 years are up, I have no idea where I am going with my life, not in the negative sense, but more in the, "Will I be moving 30 times in 4 years?" "Will the hours i work be short enough to give him the time he needs?" "What if I bring a girl home and he freaks out?" "What if I can never travel in my entire life?", I love that F-n bird, and I know the first 2 years of care would be fine, but I have no clue what the future holds. Anybody here go through similar situations?

I brought Alfie home when I was 17 years old and still in school. Of course, as a teenager, I knew everything.... or so I thought.... I wasn't in a situation where I couldn't leave Alfie with family because they did not bond with him. They tried at first but they were wary of him and couldn't quite understand the differences between the family dog and cat to Alfie. (I mean absolutely no disrespect to my family here by the way- just telling it how it was). I was the single caregiver for Alfie. He started life living in my bedroom until I was able to move him downstairs in the lounge/dining room, safe in the knowledge that neither the cat or dog would bother him. My family would try and socialise with him often enough, but were too scared to handle him and would try and avoid him when he was out of the cage where possible. To this day, whilst my parents will look after him if I'm in a bind, he would always be in the cage and they wouldn't dare let him out if I wasn't there. Life moved on, as it tends to do and I moved out into a rented house with two friends- neither of who wanted much to do with Alfie. The only place he could live was in the main hallway, so he saw a lot of foot traffic but not enough regular attention. He wasn't in the main room in the house. Again, things changed and my two housemates moved out, allowing me to move Alfie into the living room of the house. But I was studying as well as working full time and gaining more responsibilities at work, which meant longer hours. I didn't give him the attention he deserved or needed and I will be the first person to hold my hands up and say that I was failing him as an owner. In fact, when I first joined these forums, I had gone through the agonising process of trying to decide whether I should rehome Alfie. I had actually contacted a possible rescue organisation but (thankfully) they never returned my message. Since then I decided that it was MY failings, not Alfie's and it would be unfair to turn his world upside down because of my mistakes. So I started making small changes here and there with a view of improving Alfie's lifestyle. A bigger cage, moving furniture around so I was in the same room as him more often. Making more time for him and working on fixing our relationship. When I was looking to buy a house I went in to each one with a view of where Alfie would fit in and making sure he would be the centre of attention in the house (which he now is). When I moved into my house I put Alfie in the centre of the lounge/diner and I put my desk next to his cage (I don't own a dining table to allow for this). This means that even if I'm working or drawing or playing games etc, I am with Alfie and he can come out and play or watch what I'm doing and get all of the attention he wants and needs. The difference between my situation and yours is that it sounds like you have a family who will happily look after your flock if things do get a bit hectic. That option alone makes a big difference. So if you do decide to add a grey to your flock, I would strongly recommend making sure your family are on board and are involved with the bird as much as possible.

Personally I think if you have the space, budget and time for a second bird then go for it. you know your bird better than anyone else so you'll be the best judge as to whether the two birds will happily coexist. However, don't forget to have a backup plan... what will happen if the two birds DON'T get along together? What if they can't be out of the cage at the same time? Can you give them both the individual care and attention they may need? Plan for the worst and hope for the best!

I hope all goes according to plan with the resuce! Hopefully the owner will be able to understand the situation and let the bird go to a better home.

Oh my gosh, Isaac's Dad. I just mentioned you for the very first time ever in another thread!

YES.. I agree.....

If all goes according to plan, I just might know someone who would take him. He actually used to be a member of this board: Isaac's dad. He just started looking for another grey to keep Isaac company, so the timing could be right!

Thank you for the replies. Hhehehehehhe....I got some votes for birds. LOL Yeah, I feel like Isaac is a real good flock-mate and that he seems open to new members. As for the birds buddying up and maybe not giving me as much audience, I think i would be fine with that. I would love to know that I am not the only thing Isaac really desires. I have to really sit and think on it some, look around for possible candidates. It's a big decision, but I really love my little guy and if it would make him happier to have another of his kind around, well I would just be ecstatic. Thanks for the welcomes. I will have to keep you posted on what I do. I had a busy day today so sorry for not answering back earlier.

Thank you 😊

Bless your son...

Wow, I hope your son is able to get hold of the poor thing.

He had a Grey moment after all every thing he surveys is his.

Lets see hmmm: Pookie CAG bossy and demanding. Loves deconstructing cardboard boxes. Smokey Joe CAG: All attitude wants fresh flesh from my hands loves one of our boys not so much the rest of us, very good talker. Whisper CAG from a humane confiscation, sweet and loving with me not too rough on any one else. Bat bird often sleeps upside down hanging from cage ceiling. Smarty Pants Timneh: Tough guy goes after the cats and dogs, has a backwards foot that is no hindrance to whatever he wants to do. Talks like an elderly dirty old mumbling man. Sparrow and MIchael CAG: came to us after their human died of Lymphoma at a young age. Michael speaks well and is very trusting, Sparrow had seizures when she first arrived but does well now. She is missing a wing tip I was told that happened with a bad wing trim. Fred Fred Elanora Cockatoo: unknown age has a history of being rescued from a Crack house he is a self mutilator so wears a jacket and collar to prevent damage. Super sweet bird the lady who rescued him took him to the Vet where it took 2 surgeries to close his chest. Savannah Yellow Cheek Amazon: Came to us after her owner died suddenly. I wish I knew her history prior to that. She has a wing deformation often called angel wing which can be caused by too much protein in the diet of a very young bird. Beep Beep Blue Head Pionus is fostering with us from the Sanctuary. Just had to put down our sweet dog of 17 years with us this morning, the lovely Sophie. She just turned up at our house and kept jumping into our car until we gave up and bathed her. She stayed after that in stead of being discouraged. she was an adult when she arrived I believe she was between 17 and 19 years old. We still have Widget (popular name here it seems) who had no hair at all, extra teeth and a horrid odor when he found us. We have said he is half chihuahua half chupicabra. Not the smartest but a nice guy. It took a full year of treatment of two kinds of mange, yeast and bacteria on his skin before he grew hair. Got the extra teeth removed when he was neutered, CAts Jax jax-found under a bush (not playing with a full deck) Puppy cat- was dumped at the sanctuary and has one good eye. Puppy cat is the mother of Gerbil -big blue and white guy. LIttle itty bitty pretti kitty- very small calico also dumped at the sanctuary as a tiny 4 week old kitten. Chaos kitty- she and her Mom hubby rescued from a local park that has many dangers, Alligators, Raccons, Coyotes and unsupervised children. Mom cat died a few months ago a cross eyed red point Siamese mix. Chaos is white with Siamese colored patches super muscular, plays hard and selective of her fiends. Our neighbors cat Wallace hangs out at our house and fights with Chaos through the windows. Last one is Divya a black cat with white bikini markings on her underside found her sitting on a mattress beside a back road I take returning from the Sanctuary she was maybe 3 or 4 months old then. A pack of stray dogs was roaming around so I stopped to get her.

Hi, I'm Jay and through magic, here's a blast from the past...18 years ago.. Here is a pied Cockatiel: Here is a Pearl 'Tiel Here is a Lutino.... Here is an Albino Here is our White-faced Pearl Pied.... Here's a Gray, a Cinnamon, a Fawn, and a Pearl Pied.... and here is part of the FLOCK....two per cage (they loved hanging out together) How ABOUT SOME BABIES..... Hope you enjoyed the show....THE END...

Well....long time no speak all. Me and Isaac are now going on 8.5 years together and still a good pair. :) I still have issues with him grazing on his tummy feathers, but he is pretty consistent now and I know what to expect. What I continue to wonder about is how I can make life better for him. I feel like would benefit from another of his kind around him. The curiosity he expresses when he sees other birds is super gentle and I think he would not be hostile toward new members, but more curious. I work during the day and I feel like added company would help along with all his toys and stuff he plays and forages with. This would be another corner cage next to his so they would have separate space, but be able to see and observe each other. I am overcome by this idea that they need another of their kind. I also would not mind having some of the spotlight taken off me as the required playmate. It is not that I want to play with him less, it's that I never think I can give him enough. Recently, I went to a thing for my job where I ahd to be gone for two ays. I paid someone 200 dollars to come over and handle my baby, feed him...etc. He still did some major damage to a wing and i am still waiting for the flights to come back. Only one wing, but it grounded him and I have been struggling to keep him safe as he lets them grow back. (Hopefully) Other than work, I give my baby a great life with tons of attention, toys, showers, everything I can think of. He appears to be a very happy bird.....I just think the time alone sometimes wears on him. I have been battling the feather barbing for years now and have hit the limit of things I can try. I want to try to put an aviary out on my patio so he could be outside during the day.....well....then I fear of someone being malicious somehow. Someone help me if you can. I can dedicate the time to another Grey for sure just like I do Isaac, it's a bit additional, but hell, I never leave home these days anyway. I have the greatest heart for these birds and want to keep my baby happy. Let me know thoughts. Thanks! Is this a bad idea?

Well...it was a no go. Apparently my son's friend went to his neighbor directly without having my son there. My son is amazing with getting what he wants, and am saddened that his friend didn't wait to have him along. We'll try again another day.

Yes, I can barely keep up with one bird and 2 cats! So sorry about the loss of Sophie. Our other two cats (19 and 18) died earlier in the year. It's never easy, even when you know it is "time."

I respect you for your concerns...Having a Grey is similar to having a child. They require the same amount of love and care, worry, and concern and emotions. A Grey is not a child but if you are comparing jobs and lifestyles, each are more similar than not. A Parrot's Bill of Rights By Stewart Metz, M.D. GET TO KNOW ABOUT PARROTS BEFORE YOU BRING ME HOME - I am not a domesticated pet like a dog or cat. I still have the spirit of the jungle in me. I have special needs which you may find it hard to fill. Please don't learn these too late for my well-being. And please don't acquire one of my cousins wild from the jungle—it will jeopardize his survival and well-being, and that won't be a party for you either! GIVE ME THE LARGEST HOME POSSIBLE - I am used to flying through rainforests or savannahs. I have given up this great gift for your pleasure. At the very least, give me enough room to flap my wings and exercise. And I need toys for my amusement and wood to chew—otherwise, I might confuse your Home with the forest and its trees. GIVE ME A NUTRITIOUS DIET - I need a wide variety of fresh and nutritious foods, even if they take time to prepare. I cannot survive on seeds alone. Take time to learn what my needs, and preferences, are. LET ME HAVE A SOCIAL LIFE - I am a gregarious flock animal—but I am not one of you. I need lots of socialization to learn how to act with you, and with my siblings. I also need to have adequate quality time with you every day—no matter what your schedule or other needs are. I am a living, feeling creature. Above all, I need to be able to have complete trust in you, and count on your predictability in looking after me—every day. LET ME BE CLEAN - I may like to drop food or even throw it, but I need meticulous cleanliness to be healthy. My skin itches without frequent showers, the barbs of my feathers won't seal if they become oily and, worst of all, I may become ill if my food or water is not always sanitary. I NEED MY OWN DOCTOR - You may not understand my physiology and therefore you may not recognize it early on when I get sick. And it may be too late when you do, because I hide my illnesses (remember what I said about my being an animal of the jungle, where there are lots of predators). And I need an avian vet—a specialist (no HMOs for me please). If you can't afford one, perhaps you shouldn't have taken me home. PLEASE DON'T PUNISH ME - Just as I don't always understand your peculiarities, you may not understand mine. I don't TRY to get in trouble—remember, a house is not the jungle. If I do screw up, don't yell at me and never hit me. I have sensitive ears and I may never trust you again if you strike me. Hands are sometimes scary things to us (why in the world would you not be zygodactylous like us?). Even more importantly, we don't learn by punishment. We are gentle creatures who only strike back to protect ourselves; we learn through patience and love. SPEAK MY " language" - I know you get upset with me when I knock over my water bowl, throw food, scream or pluck my feathers. I don't do these to annoy you—I am probably trying to tell you something (perhaps that I am hurting, lonely, or sad.). Learn to speak MY (body) language. Remember that I, alone of all creatures on this planet, learn to speak yours! SEE ME AS AN INDIVIDUAL - I am a unique and feeling being. No two of us are alike. Please don't be disappointed in me if I don't talk like you wanted, or can't do the tricks that your friend's parrot can do. But if you pay close attention to me (and I always empathize with you, whether you know it or not), I will show you a unique being who will give you so much more than talking and playing.. Give me a chance to show you who I am; I think you'll find the effort worth it. And remember—I am not an ornament;. I do not enhance ANY living room décor. And I am not a status symbol—if you use me as such, I might nip at your up-turned nose! SHARE YOUR LOVE WITH ME - Above all, please remember that you are my Special Person. I put all my trust and faith in you. We parrots are used to being monogamous.(no bar-hopping for us!).So please don't go away for long periods or give me away—that would be a sadness from which I may never recover. If that seems to be asking a lot, remember—you could have learned about my needs before bringing me home. Even having a baby or taking a new job isn't a fair reason—you made a commitment to me FIRST. And if you think that you must leave me because you might die, provide for me forever after you leave. I may live to a ripe old age but I can't provide for myself. Remember I'm in a small cage amongst people who are not of my blood. YOUR RIGHTS - You have lots of rights, but I can only assure one. And that is, if you treat me the way I described above, I will reward you with unwavering love, humor, knowledge, beauty, dedication -- and a sense of wonder and awe you haven't felt since you were a child. When you took me home, you became my Flock Leader, indeed, my entire universe – for life. I would hang the moon and stars for you if I could. We are one in Heart and Soul. About the Author ... Dr. Stewart Metz is the Director of the Indonesian Parrot Project, a not-for-profit organization dedicated to wild Indonesian parrot conservation ... and educating pet owners on proper pet bird care and conservation of endangered birds.

🤨Well, I wish I could give you the answer...or even offer a suggestion. SRSeedburner's reply was fantastic. All I can offer is more things for you to think about which hopefully help with making your decision. You have been on the forum for many years and have read many posts. You need to take Isaac's age into consideration if rooming him with another Grey...two 8 year olds can be pretty headstrong...and on the same note, they could get along great. Would it be a female or a male? Either way, they could bond and put you out of the picture or they could become BFFs. A companion does not necessarily have to be a Grey..a number of people have Greys and Amazons. One of our favorites are Greys and Sun Conures or the less noisy Grey Cheek Conure. Should the companion bird be a fledgling who might look up to Isaac? Or, should it be an older bird of undetermined opinions?

Welcome back Elvenking! I am 100% for you getting another Grey. Search through my threads and read about our Huey. He was brought to us on Dec 1 to stay here for 7 days. His owner decided that his bird was a hell of a lot better off with another bird of his own kind after watching how he interacts with our GreycieMae. So Huey's Daddy asked if we wouldn't mind keeping Huey. His Daddy still comes over every couple of weeks to visit Huey but absolutely does not want to take him back home to lock him up in a cage to be by himself all day. I thought it would add more strain to bring in another Grey but it actually made things easier because I can now put GreycieMae in the aviary/birdroom etc with a buddy. They get along pretty well even though they have their little stabby fights every now and then. Since Huey is another Grey, he has no problems handling Greycie. We have to keep her separate from our other birds which are all smaller as she can hurt and kill them. However with Huey, he has no problems putting her in her place. He's BOSS birdy! GreycieMae on the left. Sir Huey on the right.

☺️What a wonderful surprize, Welcome, Hope life's been good to you..

We are here for you....We have a budgies Room...

Thanks everyone. I had to pass up on the 9month old because their family had already relocated. However I am hoping in the future to own one still. I currently own two budgies, so am not totally new to bird keeping, however will be new to keeping a larger parrot.

Always good when someone you both know is there to cover in your absence, Alfie looks great!

Welcome...you can always count on advice from Luvparrots an SR. Here's a older post by our beloved Luvarrots..Please check out our rooms for a platitude of advice.. Just click" So you want to be owned by a parrot

I think like human kids, they are able to adapt to these kinds of situations when they are younger. However they do adapt well to a change in homes when properly cared for. We're convinced our Huey thinks he hit the jackpot. He's really busted out of his shell with us. If you can give the Grey lots of love and attention, I don't think you can go wrong. They do require a lot of 'work' that some people are not used to. They are more than just 'feeding the dog' twice a day. Mental stimulation and cleaning up after them is more involved but they are very worth it.

Loved the pictures! Thanks for posting

Lovely photos and such beautiful birds! Thank you for digging the photos out. I love the close up baby photo. Looks like a bird with attitude... and a mohawk!