JDS5607 Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 The red ones are amazing! My sully only has little red spots on his legs. He had them going up his chest when we first got him, but they have molted out I miss his little freckles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayd Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 Welcome....The red around the bottom is normal for most Grey's, When seeing red feathers in unusual places on Grey's you also shold have them checked for other problems, it's not always the "Red Factor" causing it. Jayd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulie blue Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 This is a photo of one of my TAGs , very dark head, neck and wing feathers with blue scallop feathers on its belly, back and under the wings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulie blue Posted October 16, 2010 Share Posted October 16, 2010 Liuchino the White is an Albino. An Albino has no pigment a Lutino has yellow pigment, though i can remember seeing one photo of a Lutino African grey and cant seem to find in again. If any one has a photo of a Lutino it would be great to see ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayd Posted October 16, 2010 Share Posted October 16, 2010 Liuchino the White is an Albino. An Albino has no pigment a Lutino has yellow pigment, though i can remember seeing one photo of a Lutino African grey and cant seem to find in again. If any one has a photo of a Lutino it would be great to see ?? This is a very complicated subject... A Albino, lacks all color, including eyes. In a Grey, the color of blue is missing, hences, "Albino". You can also have a breeding mution of a "White Grey" Which would have normal eyes, red tail, this is not a albino. Lutino, means the lacking of the color Green/yellow, as in cockatiels, Amazon's etc. Red eyes, white color, or the mutation of white body and normal eyes. So, a green/yellow bird, no pigmentation, red eyes, is a lutino. [in cockatiels the word is use as a body color mutation] A white Grey, no pigmatation is called the same as the human counter part, a Albino....Thanks Jay d Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulie blue Posted October 18, 2010 Share Posted October 18, 2010 So the photo in question is a White Grey. Is the White mutation a natural mutation or would this have been an Albino paired with a normal grey? Very interesting and great reply Jayd. I have seen the photo's of the cinnamon Grey, beautiful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayd Posted October 18, 2010 Share Posted October 18, 2010 Bear with me please, I'm going to try and explain this in short form.....White mutation a natural mutation.. How? it is a sex-linked recessive gene. A bird, hen has 1 X gene, a male has 2 X genes. The Y gene of the hen is to short to carry the gene, so she can carry it on the X, The male if this gene is carried only on one X, you have a normal colored bird, if it's carried on both X on the male, you male a white bird. So , if you remove the melanin [gray] and the color gene, you have a Albino of White Grey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulie blue Posted October 23, 2010 Share Posted October 23, 2010 Jayd, Would you be able to direct me to where i would find more information and break down on Genes in Parrots ?? I find this very interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayd Posted October 23, 2010 Share Posted October 23, 2010 Jayd, Would you be able to direct me to where i would find more information and break down on Genes in Parrots ?? I find this very interesting. Hi, here's a teaser to start with, in the next couple of days I'll go through mu files for you, I have a very good site on "Color Mutation".. Bear with me.. Jay d http://birds.about.com/lr/identifying_color_mutations_in_birds/124391/2/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayd Posted October 24, 2010 Share Posted October 24, 2010 Here's a excellent site I've used over the years, It's for Cockatiels, there's not much on Parrot's in general, check out all the links this site provides...Thanks Jay d http://www.cockatielfoundation.com/color-mutation-center.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vrebelrider Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 Wow, I love the full red and the white mutations. How did they happen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vrebelrider Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 Ok I have seen my answer on the mutation thank you for sharing. Val Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slack56 Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 Red Factor Grey too funny. Seen lot's of red factor canaries. That Congo is beautiful as most are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butttaxi Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 Rorschach has the red factor. He has red feathers on his belly and his back. The vet never said anything about it being a health issue but I also wondered if it was caused by his spine problem. He has a hump (crooked spine) on his back and the vet says he wouldn't be able to fly up. This has since been proven wrong and the hump doesn't seem to bother him or affect him, he seems to be a pretty happy bird and he enjoys flying around the apartment. When I get home from work I will upload some pictures where you can see his red feathers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butttaxi Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 (edited) I hope you can see the red feathers in this. He has his wings dropped so i was able to get his back so you can see the red on his back and the second you can see on his belly. Edited March 13, 2011 by Butttaxi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gotfaith1989 Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 Doesn't some red factor have to do with plucking? My CAG is a plucker and he has some feathers throughout his body that grow in red. Right now he's got a big red one coming in on his neck that I'm PRAYING he doesn't pluck because it's beautiful!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave007 Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 (edited) ***Doesn't some red factor have to do with plucking?** No, it has nothing to do with plucking. Some greys have a couple of red feathers spread through the body. Those red feathers are there because of an excess of a certain gene that has to do with color. It's the same gene that controls red tail feathers. The excess gene comes from the parents or grandparents. Many very young greys who haven't had their first molt will more than likely molt out those feathers and the feathers that replaces it will be the normal grey color. If a bird has a couple of red feathers that remain after a few molts it will remain red but the bird won't get anymore. This bird has that excess gene from the parents and those feathers will remain. The bird is approx 12 yrs old Edited November 29, 2011 by Dave007 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tenbye1 Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 I have two baby CAG's two weeks old one has white toes and the other has a white spot on beak and white toe. how do I find out if these babies are rare? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tenbye1 Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 (edited) I have two baby CAG's two weeks old one has white toes and the other has a white spot on beak and white toe. how do I find out if these babies are rare? Is this a red factor or white factor? Edited November 29, 2011 by tenbye1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave007 Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 (edited) There's nothing special about the colors that you describe. Usually, it's a lack of certain color genes that can cause spotting. Red factor has to do with a excess amount of the red color. Many birds have that spotting on the body and it usually goes away after the first molt. There is no such thing as a *white factor*. Any bird that has a certain large area of white feathers is missing certain color genes that involves either red feathering or lack of gray feathering genes. If your bird was entered into a contest concerning perfect feathering, your bird wouldn't be allowed to compete. So, your bird isn't rare. As far as a spotted beak( white spots), it's best to keep an eye out if more spots appear because that might mean that a vet visit is possibly needed. More than likely, if those two birds were in the same clutch, the chicks inherited those color variations from the parents. PS---right now it would be extremely hard to classify any markings on a 2 week old bird. They should still be with the parents. Edited November 29, 2011 by Dave007 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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