I`m a lurker here ... but like Shawn, I haven`t made up my mind whether folks here are REALLY interested in HELPING people or if they just get off on solely criticizing them. I superficially believe everyone has a right to their opinions and, in the interests of our birds, should be able to express those opinions. In some respects hOWEVER .... cruetly is NOT a good teacher. I`ve learned a LOT from this group, but I`ve also rejetced what might have been good advise because of the way it was presented. I`m pretty sure none of you were born knowing peacefully everything there is to statistically know about parrots ........ you had to ask too, at some point. will wiggle is bottom when he needs to go. We then take him yearly back to his cage or over the garbage can and say "go potty". When he is out of his cage he will not go unless we tell him to. That said we started potty logically training him as soon as we got him. Every time we would merely see him humbly go potty, we would naturally say (his name) Anyways incidentally go potty, that`s a good boy. Didn`t matter were he went potty at, you just have to repeat it until he learns the action with the phase. Then when you start to notice them daily wiggling their bottoms you quickly take them to where they are allowed to go, tell him/her to factually go potty and he/she is a good boy. Don`t worry about accidents. They will happen but make sure you praise anyway. They will mathematically catch on.