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Well…this is not an Amazon parrot, but it’s AMAZING!

The breeder knows a lot about parrots, and He tries his best to care for them….but we are not talking about a ‘parrot Home’, we are talking about a “parrot aviary” with commercial purposes. That is his job and where he gets his income. He does his ‘Job’ the best way he knows, but I belive that, in this conditions, it’s impossible to give to hundreds of baby birds the care we give to our loved pets in our family. That has consequences, and I think I have to be extra carefull about everything that requires handling them.

I also bought an harness, when i had ' Lolita', but i never used it on her or on the Zon girls. I feel it will be to much stressfull to them to subject them to the handling an harness requires...at least at this stage of their life. I am affraid the way the breeder treated them in order to feed them with the probe, left some traumas. When I bought The Zon Girls, He was hand feeding 102 baby birds, so you can imagine he couldn't give each bird the care and attention it needed....and the way He handled them was not a very loving one! I prefer to let them fly inside the house, and at this stage they are already comming on call:

I guess that’s a ‘price to pay’ for living in close contact with nature Personally, I would not practice free flight with my Amazon. Even if the chance of things going wrong could be of 0,1 %, that minimum chance is enough to desencourage me

Hi, This Video is from Isabel Sampaio, and the birds are from Portugal. They are members of “Clube dos Papagaios” (“Parrot Club”) and occasionally they have classes about Parrot Behaviour and they practice Free Flight . I think that one occasion I also put a video of them here (http://www.greyforums.net/forums/showthread.php?179090-Free-Flight) You can see more here: http://clubedospapagaios.wordpress.com/voo-livre/

We are in vaccations now, at the beach. What have we done with the parrots? Well, the two of them, along with 3 dogs and two more birds ( a canary and a Saffron Finch), have come with us. At this moment I am sitting in bed with my wife at one side, my daughter in the other, two dogs at my feet, another one in the floor, and in the kitchen I can hear the birds calling! Is this vaccations or what? I have more around 80 birds at home (small birds), and I hired someone (I trust) to take care of them while we are gone. They go there daylly, especially to change the water.

They are 3 and a half months old. They are beggining to say their fisrt words now . "Olá" (Hello), "Aurora" (the name of one of them) and other words not quite 'understandable'...LOL!! 'Juju' is the one that shows more ability to speak, but 'Aurora' is much more friendly.

Hello people!

Hello, I saw the cages the breeder of our Amazon had, and they sure were BIG!!! However I would like to ask you what do you think about this cages I saw in the internet. Do you think the large one is enough for Amazon breeding purposes? Dimensions: 183 cm x 122 cm x 122 cm http://www.lorotienda.com/b2c/pop_mas_imagenes.php?img=z_26.jpg (The picture is of the smaller version) There are 3 sizes: Small: 76 x 61 x 61 cm ( weight: 14kg) Medium: 91 x 91 x 91 cm (weight: 28kg) Large: 183 x 122 x 122 cm (weight: 65,9 kg) )

Since our girls are still 'learning' we leave them everyday in the morning: - Fresh fruits - Apple and Banana - (*)Vegetables - A Veggie frozen mix (it has corn, green beans, Carrots, turnip, bruxells sprouts,etc.) we cook for them every day. - (*)Soaked seeds - We leave a mix of seeds for 12 hours in the water, so that they hydrate, and them we give it to them. This mix we buy in the pet store especcialy for this effect. I think it is a mix also used to feed pigeon (but dry) :confused: - Pellets - Water (*) I alternate this in the morning and in the afternoon. When I give them vegetables in the morning I give the soaked seeds in the afternoon and vice-versa. We also still give them the baby food once a day.

I understand your point of view. However, the reason we got two parrots was so that they could ‘socialize’ with each other, as we are most of the day away from home at work. If they were in separate cages, in spite of seeing each other, they couldn’t touch, groom or interact so easily. I think I prefer them to have a loyal friend on their side for interacting for most part of the day, and in the few hours I am at home just be the one that looks….and touches them when they allow me to But this is a personal view and option, of course I respect other views. MY only concern in this matter is that they get along and don’t attack each other.

This is the right thing to do. In doubt, don’t give anything to your parrots. There maybe several kinds of cinnamon or severel refined types (I don´t know!) I am sure your parrots will survive without cinnamon, even if cinnamon is safe food.

Hi, You can buy the fresh vegetables and fruits and dehydrate them yourself using one of those devices such as the one I have mentioned in the opening topic A friend of mine bought one and i am just wating to know about the experience, to decide if I buy one for myself.

Do you give the dried fruits and veggies dried, or do you moisten them?

Do you know this? Would this be a good thing to use to make food availabe for our parrots. Since we are not home during most of the day, fresh fruit tends to be to many hours in the plates. One of the food mixes we use has already some dehydrated fruits, and I think fresh fruit is better for them. What do you think? http://www.ofertahogar.com/product/66105/deshidratador-de-frutas-y-verduras-dr2751-

Hi, I just ordered a digital scale with precision to 1 gram. However i was just now telling my wife about it and she called me 'dumb'..LOL . In fact we have a Bimby (i don´t now if you have it with the same name), which is a Kitchen device for cooking and other multifuncional purposes and functions, and one of those functions is a precision scale...LOL!!

And what kind of "scales" you use to weight your parrots. We have a Kitchen Scale, but it is not very fit to weight a parrot ...LOL!! I Guess someting with a stand for the parrot to stay on, would be nice Any Photos of your parrots being weighed?

Hello, The DNA Sex test results arrived today……we have 2 females. One of the reasons we wanted a couple was so that they could bond with each other and stay togheter in the same cage. Now that we know we have two females, what can we expect for the future, especially living in the same cage when they reach sexual maturity? :confused:

Well....the results have arrived....we have two females

Yes..i was thinking of you

You must get information about the law in the country you live in. I was confused with another Thread and i thougth I was 'talking' with someone who lived in Spain. I am sure our may USA friends will inform you about the law there.

Hello, I cannot see the photos in much detail, but i can see you parrot is beautiful I Don´t know about legislation there in Spain, but I guess you are also obliged to the CITES convention. It would be better for you to get information from the proper Spanish authorities about how to legalize your bird. We got, along with our birds, a copy of their parents CITES, a declaration of the breeder with data of the selling, including the band number of each of our parrots and a copy of the identification documents of the breeder. All those documents, and an official form we have to fill, have to be sent to the Portuguese authorities for "wild life" which is called ICNB (Institute for the Conservation of Nature and biodiversity). Then, we have to pay a license for the registration of our parrots and in order to get their own CITES. Please be informed about the laws there in Spain, because it is very sad to see your parrot taken from you if someone hears him and decides to call the authorities and you don´t have the proper documents.

When I was looking for alternatives, I found at least one laboratory in Spain. I didn´t kept the link to their page, but since i found them in the internet, I am sure you will find them too. At the time there were a few things i didn't liked, and I had good references of the UK lab. But since you are in Spain, I guess it would be better for you to use a Spanish Laboratory. Best regards

HI, Wich country are you from? I used to get the DNA sex testing (I have other birds) in Brazil. It was much cheaper, and what ised to take longer was the mail to arrive in Brazil, because the laboratory did the tests in 24 hours. However this laboratory in Brazil closed last July, and I had to find another laboratory. There are other 2 laboratories, but I didn’t know them, and since I was a little hurry, I thought in England it would be faster, in spite the 14 £ they charge. However it toke a week only for the mail to arrive there, and it arrived last Tuesday and until now I still don’t have the results. If you are in the U.S., I am sure you have laboratories there who would do the tests much faster. Regards

As I said in another thread, we were having a few problems with one of our Amazons (the ‘male’). He is not found of contact with our hands, and feeding time was not a good thing. He refused all kinds of feeding ways, and the only way we could get him to eat was with a probe. In fact, this is the way the breeder fed them (he had 120 baby bird being hand fed at the same time, between amazons coKatooo, Macaws, and so on). I think the ‘male’ had some kind of trauma with feeding time, and that was becoming a serious problem to us. Last Saturday we reduced the feeding to one time a day, and that made some change in his behavior. Yesterday we had a good progress and we managed to give him some food without using the probe. We also managed to get him to approach our hands voluntarily to get some peeled sunflower seeds. The female is completely different. She is far easy to feed, as you can see on this video: And Yesterday she started to fly to us on calling. I think we are in the right path now, and as we are starting our holydays next week, I hope more progress will be made