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Hi birdnut, knowing u have rised the blue crown conure since baby, I would like to ask some doubt. How old does the lower beak turn black. Is there any way to predict the sex? Thanks

Thanks. So far, she doesn't want To come out. Behaving like a stranger. Not very agresive I am not too sure if it's normal. Because the change is too sudden. It's like as if some one change the bird during the night. It's an overnight transformation The good thing is shr maintain a good appetite and start liking veggies and fruits.

hi guys... my grey is not getting better. he has since become grumpy and dont really want interaction. she also become more aggressive. doesnt wana step out from the cage and everything. she aslo talk very little naw adays. i only hear her saying bye bye when i leave my house... her weight has increase 370 last time to 410. her poop is good and her appetite is huge. she started eating veg and fruits too. but the behaviour is not the same. any suggestion?

i am not too sure why,today migo is behaving very strangely. she doesn't talk when i come out from my room. when i am changing her water and food, she puff up and lounge at me. she makes no sound at all and just sit on the furthest perch. last night she still loving. but why today she suddenly change?

thanks for the input guys... i will just keep working with her. i really want to see the ful potential of her intelligence. she enjoy learning new things. in some occasion, i saw her singing a random tone and with a random words. she will dance while she is singing. today i try to sing for her and hoping that she will one day caught the song and sing it. if that stage is achived, may be i get her sing while i play guitar. sound crazy and i dont know if it is doable. but no harm trying. she enjoy the singing(even it is out of tone). she will stay there motionless and the eye keep pinning. bad news about yesterday. when i bring her out for outing, i put her on a perch. it is about 1.5 m hight. i give her some seed and she enjoyed it. i walk away to get my self a chair. out of sudden she jump down from the perch. i didn t know how she land, but i just pick her up with me and she sat with me on the chair. i notice the chest area get a little wet and i open up the feather. the chest got bruises and the skin is torn. i bring her to the vet. the vet say just apply some medicine and leave the wound to dry. the bird just dont react to the wound. there is no expression of painfull or so what ever. everythingis normal. the vet examine the wing and count that there is 14 feather is cliped from one wing and 15 form the other. he suggested me to pull out some of the clipped feather so it can grow faster and the bird will be able to glide. so the pulling begun. we towel the bird. she strugled a bit. then the wing is pulled out and the clipped feather is pulled out with some kind of tools. there was no struggle or screaming from the bird. so i bring home the bird. the bird behaving 100% normal. as if nothing bad ever happen. she will behave and so just as per normal, climb down from the cage and walk to me and call out "mummy mummy" while i am doing my work. i hope i will se many pin feather in 4 weeks time

i realise that my grey is really trying very hard to express her interest in communicating and interactin with me. in the past 2 weeks, i have been very very busy. i come home later then usual and my playing and training time with her is cut. she start to communicate with me through body language and speach the conversation that i mentioned earlier. i was very very surprised when she can asked me all the question before i am going out. i asked the previous owner that it was the question usually she ask her daughter. recently she will bent down and vibrate the wing vigorously with feather tight together and eyes keep looking at me(not in a fearful way, she is definitely not afraid of me) the grey has actually deprived from physical interaction for years, but how come she doesnt pluck? and she has been at home for years without knowing the outside, howcome she enjoy outdoor so fast and enjoy meeting new people in such a short period of time? so can i say my grey is mentally more stable then common grey? actually before i got this grey i have been reading about grey for 4 years. always get withdrawn by the fear that the bird might pluck.along the way, i heard greys become plucker for the simplest and easiest reasons like another bird at home, bring out, go for an outing, arrival of newborn, to even as easy as spook by children. all this stories scared me and make me wait for so long before i got my grey.

thanks morana... i will take extra care before i we going out...

For this I have a question I have a fren who has kept her female grey for 30 years She got it at 2yr old, so the grey is 32 yr old 17 yr ago, the grey have changed from a lovely pet become a bird that always hide in a dark corner of the cage. If hiding spot is not provided, she will start to pluck. She can pluck her cheat bare in 2hours and it's really scary. The bird just want to spent her time all day long in the dark. She have been doing that for 17 yr. She become super aggressive and will grown very loudly if you put your hand near the "nest" She will lay eggs and incubate it for about 4 time a year. Vet was invited to check on the bird and it is confirm that the bird have ginetic issue that cause hormone imbalance. Is there any way the grey can live as per normal ever again?

I was lucky that my bird isn't abused. Actually she is the one abused her ex owner. She will show dominance, aggression and will attack them. She gave th owner so much stress and fear until the owner decided to put her on adoption as he believe neither the bird nor te bird were doing great. They were interacting, but no physical contact. It's something like jayd's story on an adopted cockatoo. So it's pretty fast that the bird adapt to my house.

Actually the bird is clipped. Badly clipped that she would fall and land beak 1st or chest 1st She also have problem balencing her self. And she have issue on meeting new ppl and going to new place So I slowly encourage her to go out and slowly meet more people. Now she is looking forward to go out. IMHO, birds, clipped or not clipped, are born and made to explore. So I dint like to keep them just at home. I will bring them out as often as I can. Usually one at a time and if course with a very careful measure to ensure they are safe. I have not introduce harness, but after my exam I will have plenty of time to introduce harness so I can still bring her out after she regrow her wing.

thanks guys... jayd, what do you mean by baggage? is it like their pass expiriance that will never go off? like happiness or horror expiriance that affect their reaction to certain things?

i have preferance for a male pet. i dont know why. it is since the i started to keep pet. but actually, gender doesnt make a alot of difference in the pet quality. its really depend on the owner, especially in parrot keeping. I have just adopted female grey now and i totally love her.... usually female will get a bit aggressive during breeding season or when stimulated to breed. but during he off season, we can train and bond with them. this will be very useful during breeding period. like for example, the other threat i read here say: tick train amazon, so we can handle them during hormonal breeding season. i think usually grey will have this hormonal issue after 5 year old. is it correct ? i am not too sure about this, but definately member here can help.

Yea. They really make the sound that is perfect. Interm of volume, quality, all the same. It's amazing. But very deceiving! Today, there's another sound to trick us. The door knocking! And today he manage to open the door. The cage is put against an open window so that he can see the outside and the door is secure by a spring. She break off the spring and cone out. Lucky I was at home and she walk to my room and scream out mummy mummy. Btw. Any way to not get trick by the noise she makes? The more we get trick, it seems like the more she gonna do it.

here come the little unpleasent part. she learn to trick the house hold and always make the sound that make us run out of the room like he will make a telephone sound. she does it so well that many time, we are tricked. we run out of the house and attend to the phone. then she will say "hallo...how are you???" most recently she will mimic the sound of the kettle. its a bit anoying at times. but no one can tell apart the real kettle sound to the fake one or the real telephone ringing to the fake ones. any one encounter this problem before?

I forget to mention, along the process, she learn a few sentences. It's so funny, she will say out thing that she learn before in lady voice. The laughing, the greeting, good morning, hallo and night night, etc etc all in lady voice. And the words she learn from me, she say it in a deep tone. From this, I know she learn alot of words in my house already She is getting very very comfortable. She is talking to her self all day. Dance, bob her head. Lift up her leg, wing and tilt the body in some angle and rock while singing to her self. Really use up those words that she know in to tone and sing it out. I don't know where she learn the time, but she is putting word in to the tone really randomly and dance while singing. When I come home at night she will say hallo, it's late, where have u been. In the morning, she will say good morning, prise the lord. God love u.( I'm not a Christian, but the previous owers are) When I am holding my bag and wearin. My shoe, he will say where u go( in my voice) I will answer school. She will say not so late!! In lady voice I say ok. And she say good boy( in my voice) It's drop the jaw of my family that the bird holding simple dialog with me. When she is hungry or he is looking for me, she will scream mummy mummy! But I am not a woman. But she adress me as mummy

Hi guys, I think I will start a log on amigo's progress here. 1st she come as a shy bird. Don't eat and come out from cage for the 1st day 2nd day start eating alittle. 4th day start eat alot 6th day took food from my hand. 8th day-true colour come out. She eat so much !! Including te pellets. 11th day step up from cage to my hand and play outside. 15th day, start bring her out of the house She was very shy but because of her greediness, she enjoy outdoor very quickly 16th day. Out of her eagerness on sunflower seed, she learn 3 trick in one section Shake hand, flap wing and wave on command Then time flies. I don't know how many days she has been with me

The smell is still there but not very strong This bird is really wierd. He dint really want to play with me He will run away if I ask him to step up from his cage But he will scream if I am out of his sight He know When I am home. And will make noise. He doesn't make noise when other family member is home. Glad that he recognise me, but he is absolutely noisy!! Anyway to reduce the noise? Thanks O, btw, I name him deepsee. Because the way he observe and look at me really different It's really a deep looking in to eyes Other than the screaming, his other noises are super cute. Seriously cute!!! Birdnut will agree with me I hope. The soft noise he make melts every heart of my family member.

Great job!!! The bird must be happy inside. Hmm, may be a few small dove will be a perfect inclusion.

alright.......

thanks butttaxi. actually my grey dietis prettymuch control in term of the ammount. the food will ussally be finished by 3-4 pm and the grey will not have the food untill i come back, usually is about 7-8 pm. usually i will start the training and bonding after i come home and he will have alot of seed treat during the time. before sleep, she will be offered another meal. but i am trying to increase her weight. thats is why i provide the pellet to be served all the time for the whole day. he will still finish the food by 6-7 pm. and still take seed during play time and still have the supper in the same amount. in short, he have 1 extra meal during the period of 4-8 pm. the weight just dont go up. may be i will try derowming him. i will be looking at the deworming gel from Vitafarm. any of friends here have experience on that medication? i give him vegie everyday becasue my other birds do take vegie. all the vegie will get tossed all over the cage and i am certain that nothing is eaten, it tried removing the pellet and feed only vegie. she choose to starve herself then to eat the veg. i tried serving it in different manner too. like chopped, minched, whole, cut big, cut small, all rejected,, steamed,raw,all rejected

so far i have been ensuring the food is available all the time. but my grey's weight is not increasing. it goes around 365 in the morning and 390 at night. i am not too sure why the weight fluctuate so much or is it my weighing scale? i tried the consistency of the scale. the machine doest seem to have problem.

so sorry about your lost. its always difficult to see out beloved pet off in this way. because without us realizing, they are no longer a pet in our heart. they are friends. you have done your best for grey... and grey had been really a fighter. take care

i think i would just let him regrow his feather. i will try to bath him more often and encourage him to eat more vegie and fruits,maybe it help in the speed and the quality of the feather. i will try to get him to eat herrison pellet as i heard it is very good and fully organic. i am afraid that pulling out the feather will stressed him too much and i will have to restart the bonding again and i think it will be worse then before as the grey will now think that i am a bad guy who is going to pull her feather.

okay, i will note it...so for training wise, just ignore the bad and encourage the good behavior... recently my grey got spooked and jump off from her perch. after that i notice that she isnt standing in the usual posture. its like a little slouching forwards. so i think it could be the fall. i wet the chest feather and find out that there is bruises on the chest. i brought it to the vet and he suggested to pull out some of the cliped feather so the bird can regrow the feather asap. i am still considering as it will badly traumatise the grey. but i cant afford another fall. he is clipped to the extend that he will fall chest/head 1st. i think this will give the bird very bad experienced and i dont want to risk the bond that have been developing quickly recently.

i have not read it all finish. i will carry on. thanks. its a good article !