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CursingLlama Thank you for your input.This is why i considered this a worthwhile topic, if it can give people a little knowledge of the potential danger/risks then that makes me a very happy moderator. Karma to you

Dan a great post, & i know you love your dobermans, There was a gorgeous one at my sons football match today, brown he was handsome ( sorry off topic ! )

A wing trim, when properly performed, should result in a bird that cannot fly, but can glide gracefully to the ground.wing clipping is meant only to eliminate the possibility of upward flight, and that their birds may still retain some ability to fly horizontally, and may even gain lift in the wind. The main purpose of wing clipping is to prevent upward flight in a bird and not to render a bird flightless. A properly clipped psittacine should glide gracefully to the ground and have enough feathers to break its fall.

Great minds think alike Dan & Tari A good article to have at hand, i have read it to Dan in the FAQ section.

I have been fortunate,two of my greys are brothers i purchased from a breeder, i became good friends with her & she is involved in a rescue/ re homing group.Approx 8 weeks ago i was able to re home a 14 month old grey.It was a honour that the rescue group thought that i was the right person to give this bird a forever home & yes it is an amazing feeling to be able to do that even tho Coco can be trying at times, i wouldnt change her for the world. I would say if you are in a position to rescue or re home & have the knowledge, then go for it, there is nothing quite like the feeling & satisfaction it brings.

Tari thanks for the link <br><br>Post edited by: lovemyGreys, at: 2007/09/15 22:16

I would like to thank Tari for posting her own personal story.I know it was upsetting for her, but hopefully some good will come from this, even if it is to warn people of the potential dangers of Teflon. This topic was written to warn of the potential dangers of the misuse of Teflon, & with Tari's own personal story it shows that, yes this can & does happen.<br><br>Post edited by: lovemyGreys, at: 2007/09/15 16:54

Joe you are entitled to your own opinion. The article i have written is true, I have sat here for a few hours researching & getting my facts correct before i posted this topic as i do with all the informative articles i write & post. I didnt suggest that you or any members will be killing your birds using Teflon coated pans as you have implied Joe, I was warning members of the potential dangers of misuse of products containing Teflon. As i said ""Under normal cooking conditions, PTFE-coated cookware is stable and safe "" If you want to use a vanilla scent in your bathroom that's down to you, personally i choose not to use any kind of sprays or air fresheners in my house that can potentially harm my greys.Thats my personal choice.<br><br>Post edited by: lovemyGreys, at: 2007/09/15 16:49

That would be great, i for one would like to follow this story

Just an up date, i decided this bird was not right for me, i followed my head & not my heart I am still willing to take another rescue, be it next week or next year so i will let you know when the right bird comes along. This bird, the Amazon has happily been re homed with my friends brother

Be sure to keep us updated on the tiel's progress Tari

Toni wrote: I havent got aol toni ! trying to matchmake sounds good to me

Thank you for the additional information Tari

A very interesting topic Dan, Thank you for defining the meaning of Domesticated.

Teflon. Teflon fumes are deadly to birds! Teflon is DuPont's trademarked name for Tetrafluoroethylene which is found most commonly in non-stick cookware. Polytetraflouethylene (PTFE) is not only found in the fumes of Teflon products, but other brands of product as well. Teflon is a material used to coat cooking utensils and in industrial applications where sticking is to be avoided. Teflon is now also being used in many household appliances. PTFE is commonly found in. • Non-stick Cookware. (This includes non-stick coatings known as Teflon, Silverstone, T-Fal, Supra, Resistal, etc.) • Irons with Non-stick Sole Plates • Portable Heaters • Stir Fryers/Woks • Pizza Pans • Non-stick Stainless Steel • Self-Cleaning Ovens • Heat Lamps and Bulbs • Bread makers • Curling Irons • Hair Dryers • Cookie Sheets • Griddle Pans and Skillets • Stovetop Burners • Wafflers • Deep Fryers • Crock Pots • Roasting Pans • Cake Pans and Moulds • Coffee Makers Teflon fumes arise when cooking with Teflon-coated pots and pans at high temperatures or when pre-heating an empty pan for more than 3 minutes. While not harmful to other pets, these fumes are lethal to birds. Under normal cooking conditions, PTFE-coated cookware is stable and safe. Like carbon monoxide, PTFE is odourless and invisible. It travels through the air unnoticed. In humans PTFE causes flu-like symptoms; in birds PTFE kills.We all cook at normal temperatures but please be aware a day may come when you may accidentally leave a pan on a hot stove, You may be distracted , if a pan is being pre heated on an oven/cooker and forgotten, or if water boils out of a pot, breakdown of the PTFE can occur. In other words, PTFE cookware has to be "abused" to emit toxic fumes, but this is not as rare as it might seem; many people fall asleep after they put pots or pans on the stove to heat. Birds which are kept near to the kitchen will usually die very shortly after breathing the fumes. Even birds kept in another room are at great risk. They will have severe breathing difficulties & death will usually follow. First Aid for Teflon poisoning. 1. Remove the affected bird immediately from the home and supply lots of fresh air. Unfortunately, other than this, no first aid exists. 2. Call your avian veterinarian immediately. I have posted this article in the bird food room as Teflon is found in cookware & thought it was appropriate.

Great news Toni i'm so pleased for you

A lovely gesture Joe in memory of your dad Can we have a piccy Judy ?

Hi arrior &

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:laugh: Kids are so funny :lol:

Great news, Here's to a healthy future

My three come no where near my computer, it would be destroyed in seconds :silly: :unsure: :blink:

A lovely story,Are you going to keep her flight feathers now or clip again ?

Cool, that's nice tattoo work.

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