she steps onto my arm no problem but once she is on thats when she decides that i need 4 or 5 really hard bites and sometimes a run up my arm and a bite out of my neck, the book i got says that they dont hold on when they bite but ohhh my god they do she is abit like a pit bull most of the time but then now and again not a problem, i think is has helped gettin my mother to ignore her when she visits and telling her NO NAUGHTY and putting her back in her cage and leaving room for 10 mins, she does not like being ignored. U are all vey helpful and friendly on this forum and id like to thank u all for yr help and am sure i will have many many more question in the future :blink: