Thanks My hubby is going to put some ropes, we went and bought some interlocking sponge squares to place on the floor. I also found a closer vet so next week I am going to check it out for my 3 little ones. By changing vets it will save travel time by almost 3 hours. I think the first visit I'll just have them do a check up, nails and beak trim. Then I'll see if I feel good about the vet before I choose to continue to them or not. I also was wondering if anyone knows of a good place to look for plans to make a play stand? The one hubby made for our 2 Quakers (Rexley & Molly) seems to be getting torn apart from Joey. Joey likes to chew on everything he can. LOL