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Awww, that sweet baby face! Looks like you have a great setup. Once baby gets bigger he'll be able to protect himself. I had to keep the reins on GreycieMae until Huey came out of his shell. He then stamped his authority and he's the only bird she can't bully. Greys can definitely take care of themselves against each other - when full grown.

For now, I am just going to be patient and let them interact under supervision. I will keep reinforcing that Isaac should just be sweet. LOL. It'll take some time, but we have it. i'm doing all kinds of stuff with new baby that I wish I had done with Isaac, showering with me being one of them. Isaac loves the new set up, Casper is as curious as ever. Things are going good. Advice is welcome though.

Okay, so I will be posting some pictures in a while, but I wanted to get the current status of affairs out there. This weekend, I brought a new grey into the home. Casper is just about 13 weeks and beginning to take his first flights. So at first, Isaac was pretty curious as expected. Slowly approaching. Then Isaac seemed to want to feed him. Then like....trying to nibble at his toes kind of...not playfully...but more like not even knowing what this new thing was and probing for a response. Then it looked like he wanted to pry the beak off of Casper. So.....so far have to keep them separate or under heavy supervision. I can;t figure out what Isaac thinks, but I feel like Casper needs to get his bearings more and well as Isaac getting comfortable with a new bird in the house. On all other fronts, Isaac seems like business as usual, the encounters are precarious. If anyone has any advice on how to get Isaac to play nice, pass it along. I'll post some pics when I get back from lunch.

Oh look at that adorable little baby face!! Congratulations on bringing Casper home. I've never tried introducing another bird so I don't have much advice for you. I'm only here to coo over baby bird photos. (And Isaac photos as well, of course!!!) Hopefully as Casper learns more about his environment he can start to stick up for himself a bit and they'll both settle in together.

Congratulations on your new baby and best of luck on the interaction! Having only one, I have no advice for you.

Cuteness overload, what an adorable baby grey, looks like things are going well for you with the new addition, just let things progress naturally and see if a relationship develops between the two.

Oh the poor little guy. Probably doesn't know whether he's coming or going. Does he have a name? I hope he settles in quickly. Are you keeping him or just trying to give him a break whilst finding a forever home for him?

Time and supervision. What an adorable little guy is Casper. Congrats on the newbie.

So glad I posted this, I would have never thought to use my bed. I think she’ll (JoJo) be a decent flyer and may already know how but just doesn’t. When she is startled she will hop into flight but only to flutter to the ground. She has a pretty smooth landing. Just doesn’t seem to be able to take off. My 20yo Maxi however is a different story and crashes anytime she is startled and always lands breast bone first. I’ll try this with her after JoJo gets the hang of it. It may help her come out of her she’ll more. She was not treated well by the previous owner.

Our Grey Huey is 21 and was not a flyer. We got him on Dec 1st of 2017 and by end of January he was flying, not real graceful but flying...lots of crash landings. I started him out by just giving him a toss onto our bed over and over. Once he got the idea, he started trying to fly on his own and we had some scary moments as he had some very hard landings. I spent about a month flying out of my chair to go provide a landing arm for him when he would launch himself because he was not real good about hitting his landing rope/etc. and would then crash hard. Eventually he's gotten very good at hitting landings and rarely crashes anymore. He's even flown down our hallway and turned and came back which is pretty amazing for such a large bird. He'll never be super acrobatic like our Greycie that learned as a baby but he's a flyer now.

Thank you. She is a skilled lander and can avoid obsticles. I’ve also noticed If I ask her to fly while she is on my arm she flaps her wings for a bit and I can feel it pulling my arm up, so hopefully it is not hard to teach. I didn’t think about the bed, I’ll Toss an old painting sheet on there so I don’t get any poop on there and try it out. Can I ask how old the Grey was at the time you took in?

I feel your pain Neoow. Timber won't eat pellets in any brand or any form. Not even in birdy bread (which he doesn't care much for anyway). In the end, we do the best we can and make sure they get some variety.

I have two African Greys with breakfast beards in my food bowl

You have begun the journey as a person with a grey, enjoy the experience you may find your bird is a good teacher.

It seems he has had a few names which he shows no response to so I think we may start over if we can find a name he likes. He is amazingly calm and accepting of his new digs. I know these birds can become phobic at this age so fingers crossed all will remain well. He has some feather damage on his back looks like he has been barbering. Hope to get past the feather destruction and the unwillingness to leave the cage. slow and steady he is adjusting to eating sprouted food and enjoying attention. Will see if he is happy with us or needs a home of his own, Galahs have been my dream bird for a long time and we just lucked into helping him. he destroyed a cardboard box today so I take that as a good sign.

New guy at our house just arrived Sunday. We are the 4th home in 18 months.

Hi every one

☺️WELCOME!

Hello everyone - I am hoping someone here may have some insight on training older greys (17 & 20 approx.). More specifically training them to fly. JoJo the grey I'd like to train first is very needy and I'd like to teach some independence and give her the ability to get around with confidence. Any insight from you guys would be greatly beneficial to me. As always, thank you for the help everyone. Glad I came across these forums. :)

Common sense answer, smart person. Roof works as well if you use plastic make certain your greys cannot chew on it.

Happy to meet you looking forward to pictures and stories.

We had a grey arrive some years back and she was not able to fly due to wing trims. I started just moving my arm up and down while she was perched on my arm slowly to start with to encourage flapping and build some strength. The next step was to gently toss her off my arm and onto the bed from about a foot away. We then gradually increased the distance over a number of weeks to about 4-5 feet. It gave her some experience and confidence as she slowly realized she could take off and learn to land herself. Now years later she is a capable flier when she wishes to do so. That is our experience. Glad you found us Nickraph.

Hello and welcome Isha!

Look delicious! 😂

Just add seasoning and voila!

I understand she will taste just like chicken. 😃

Today is the only stinky poops day but all her poops today have smelt horrible but the last one or two haven’t smelt as strong not really bubbly either just mostly green liquid with a couple of solid pieces and nothing other than ordinary food and peanuts and one carrot stick the past few days

To stir up some trouble and thought...lol...this is my opinion and reasons for it. NO ONE has to agree with this.... I had planned to offer a number of post to this thread, but I'll finish with this one... What ever we feed our fids outside the norm we must do so with Moderation in mind...This leads us to Accumulation, THIS is the Killer... OUR fids cannot remove certain mineral and nutrition's from their system, Salt for example, and other overdoses...Yes we overdose our fids. Using a previous post, sugar or supplier of sugar was mentioned nine times in daily foods! The problem lies in the fact we don't take into the amount of sugar for example or salt that is in the both good foods and bad foods we feed our fids.. It isn't the occasional chip or white potato etc we feed them, but the "Accumulation" of every thing we feed them!!! The same thing goe's for Fats (fatty Acids) We must reduce Saturated fats to a minimum... In summary, check out how much sugar is in peas, corn, potatoes, bread etc...How about Saturated fats, Pellets, sunflower seeds, chips, etc. The largest killer of our fids is: Advertising!!! Complete, contains, Vet recommended, Everything your bird need!!!!! What our FIDS really need is for us, their caretaker to learn how to read and research.....Thank you Jayd

Alfie is exceptionally picky and always has been. He has a seed, nut and dried fruit mix which is his daily go to. I am trying him on harrisons pellets and tops pellets at the moment but he is not impressed. I have never managed to fully convert him away from his seed/fruit/nut mix. He is a nightmare with vegetables and usually ignores them completely. He will eat mashed potato and will occasionally entertain the idea of peas and cooked carrots. He has tried some sweet potato mash as well recently but the verdict is still out on that one. He gets whatever he can have from my dinner plate in his bowl but isn't normally interested in trying it. He normally just flings it out of the bowl in disgust. He likes banana, especially dried banana chips. He always digs those out first. I have tried chop but he's never been interested. I've tried putting things on a skewer in his cage but it mostly gets ignored. Unless it's a grape. He likes grapes. I keep persevering but he's very contrary. He might give something a go one day and then the next he's chucking that same thing across the cage in disgust. 😂 I'm debating about getting a dehydrator and adding some dried veggies into his daily mix... see if he picks anything out that he likes from that.

To stir up some trouble and thought...lol...this is my opinion and reasons for it. NO ONE has to agree with this....  Pellets: 😜 I have researched the agricultural history of pellet trees, I have contacted the Department of Agriculture in the Congo, I have checked with tourists who have gone on safaris in the Congo, and the elusive Pellet Tree or Bush remains a secret.... Okay, pellets....why do I use these as a secondary treat, not a main meal? For example: directly from Harrison's...their ingredients: HARRISON’S INGREDIENT LISTINGS HIGH POTENCY COARSE *Sunflower Kernels, *Hull-less Barley, *Soybeans, *Peas, *Peanut Kernels, *Lentils, *Corn, *Brown Rice, *Toasted Oat Groats, *Alfalfa, *Psyllium, Calcium Carbonate, Bentonite, Mixed Tocopherols (source of Vitamin E), *Sea Kelp, Salt, *Algae Meal, Vitamin/Mineral Supplement (Vitamin A Palmitate, Vitamin D3 Supplement, dl-Alpha Tocopheryl Acetate, Vitamin B12 Supplement, Riboflavin Supplement, d-Calcium Pantothenate, Niacin, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Biotin, Thiamine Mononitrate, Folic Acid, Zinc Sulfate, Manganese Sulfate, Copper Sulfate, Sodium Selenite, Calcium Carbonate and *Sunflower Oil) *CERTIFIED ORGANIC INGREDIENT Guaranteed Analysis: Crude protein (min.) 18%, crude fat (min.) 15%, crude fiber (max.) 6.5%, moisture (max.) 10%. HIGH POTENCY FINE *Hulled Gray Millet, *Hull-less Barley, *Corn, *Toasted Soybeans, *Peanut Kernels, *Sunflower Kernels, *Peas, *Lentils, *Toasted Oat Groats, *Brown Rice, *Chia, *Alfalfa, Calcium Carbonate, Bentonite, Mixed Tocopherols (source of Vitamin E), *Sea Kelp, Salt, *Algae Meal, Vitamin/Mineral Supplement (Vitamin A Palmitate, Vitamin D3 Supplement, dl-Alpha Tocopheryl Acetate, Vitamin B12 Supplement, Riboflavin Supplement, d-Calcium Pantothenate, Niacin, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Biotin, Thiamine Mononitrate, Folic Acid, Zinc Sulfate, Manganese Sulfate, Copper Sulfate, Sodium Selenite, Calcium Carbonate and *Sunflower Oil) *CERTIFIED ORGANIC INGREDIENT Guaranteed Analysis: Crude protein (min.) 20%, crude fat (min.) 12%, crude fiber (max.) 5%, moisture (max.) 10%. HIGH POTENCY SUPER FINE *Hulled Gray Millet, *Hull-less Barley, *Corn, *Toasted Soybeans, *Peanut Kernels, *Sunflower Kernels, *Peas, *Lentils, *Toasted Oat Groats, *Brown Rice, *Chia, *Alfalfa, Calcium Carbonate, Bentonite, Mixed Tocopherals (a source of Vitamin E), *Sea Kelp, Salt, *Algae Meal, Vitamin/Mineral Supplement (Vitamin A Palmitate, Vitamin D3 Supplement, dl-Alpha Tocopheryl Acetate, Vitamin B12 Supplement, Riboflavin Supplement, d-Calcium Pantothenate, Niacin, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Biotin, Thiamine Mononitrate, Folic Acid, Zinc Sulfate, Manganese Sulfate, Copper Sulfate, Sodium Selenite, Calcium Carbonate and *Sunflower Oil). *CERTIFIED ORGANIC INGREDIENT Guaranteed Analysis: Crude protein (min.) 20%, crude fat (min.) 12%, crude fiber (max.) 5%, moisture (max.) 10%. HIGH POTENCY MASH *Sunflower Kernels, *Hull-less Barley, Rolled; *Toasted Soybeans, *Hulled Gray Millet, *Lentils, Rolled; *Peas, Rolled; *Peanut Kernels, *Brown Rice, Rolled; *Corn, Rolled; Toasted Oat Groats *Chia, *Sesame Seed, *Alfalfa, Monocalcium Phosphate, *Algae Meal, Calcium Carbonate, Bentonite, *Sea Kelp, Salt, Mixed Tocopherals (a source of Vitamin E), Vitamin/Mineral Supplement (Vitamin A Palmitate, Vitamin D3 Supplement, dl-Alpha Tocopheryl Acetate, Vitamin B12 Supplement, Riboflavin Supplement, d-Calcium Pantothenate, Niacin, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Biotin, Thiamine Mononitrate, Folic Acid, Zinc Sulfate, Manganese Sulfate, Copper Sulfate, Sodium Selenite, Calcium Carbonate and *Sunflower Oil), *Anise Seed. *CERTIFIED ORGANIC INGREDIENT Guaranteed Analysis: Crude protein (min.)20%, crude fat (min.) 14%, crude fiber (max.) 8%, moisture (max.) 10%. What do you see as the main ingredients? Sunflower seeds, or millet, soybeans, peanuts, and they all contain salt...These are ingredients we tend to not feed our fids except as occasional treats. All the vitamins and minerals are added and then destroyed by the heating process. Other than Top's Pellets, most of the other pellets are worse. It is far better (in my opinion), to use a more natural diet and to use pellets in birdie bread

To stir up some trouble and thought...lol...this is my opinion and reasons for it. NO ONE has to agree with this.... Red palm oil: hehehe....my red hype. It has the highest saturated fats of all the oils, including coconut oil. It's expensive and hard to find, and 8 out of 10 Greys don't like it. Elaeis guineensis African red palm oil It is native to west and southwest Africa, specifically the area between Angola and the Gambia. The species is also now naturalised in Madagascar, Sri Lanka, Malaysia, Indonesia, Central America, the West Indies. The palm fields in Africa has that wonderful, magical soil that can be found nowhere else in the world. The soil in all the other countries where red palm is grown is different and the refined red palm oil is different. Most of the red palm fields have been destroyed by the burning of the fields. Of the 13.6 grams of fat in a tablespoon of palm oil, 6.7 grams are saturated. For comparison, a tablespoon of canola oil only has 1 gram of saturated fat. The same amount of olive oil has 1.9 grams of saturated fat. Palm oil is a good source of Vitamin E but canola oil has slightly more vitamin E per tablespoon. So, to eliminate the problems, we can substitute canola oil and increase the Vitamin E in foods we feed our fids. You can buy canola based margarines or you can just drizzle canola oil the same way you would red palm oil. You can also flavor the canola oil with carrot juice, etc. So, my point is, I can use canola oil and save the cost and large amounts of saturated fats and the search and purchasing of African grade Red Palm Oil.

I actually don't feed my fids any beans, except lentils on occasion. Primarily I stick with cooked whole grains, hemp seed and ancient grains.

What a beautiful CAG! As the others have said, they adjust slowly. Just take it easy and slow down. You are off to a great start!

Shortly, I'll make a large post We really have to research what we feed our fids and in what combination. A short example, we never salt our fid's foods. But, chard and spinach are loaded with salt so should be fed at a minimum. One of my favorite, garbanzo or chickpeas, bond certain enzymes depleting them from the fid's system. A favorite, red palm oil, is the largest source of artery blocking food sources on the market extreme high cholesterol. I've always called it the "Red Hype"....I'LL go into that later hehehehe....

Looks like you have a nice setup for him. I would say he's asking to slow things down a little with his new situation. They always settle down, it just may take a while. It took our Huey about 6 months to come out of his shell.

It's really super simple and such healthy nuggets of goodness. The sky's the limit as to what you can add, or want to hide for that matter. Mine aren't pellet eaters in general, but they get their fair share inside the birdie bread! As for thawing, I keep a small container in the refrigerator that's usually a 3 day supply and then replenish from there.

May have to try this. I have a few bags of old pellets that have been in the freezer for a while waiting to become a nice birdy bread.

Fantastic! Thank you, had no clue it was so easy. Does it thaw well?

It's really very easy and doesn't require a recipe other than your imagination. The base that I use is Harrison's pellet ground into flour like consistency You can use any pellet of your choosing. Remove to a separate mixing bowl. Then food process anything you want to add to this 'flour'. I always add those things my fids won't eat unless it's disguised. For my crew it's bell peppers, kale and most anything orange or green. I always add sweet potato to all my birdie bread. Add enough water to get it to the consistency that works for you. Add whatever cooked grains you have, spread your creation onto a pan and bake 20-25 minutes at 350. I crumble it, freeze and use as needed.

GreycieMae wants to know if you ship?

Our basic go-to daily chop is baby chard, sugar snap peas, sweet potatoes, pomegranate arils, a grape, blueberry or two, banana, slightly cooked broccoli and my homemade birdie bread, concocted using Harrison's pellets as its flour to which I add ancient grains, hemp seed, kale, red bell pepper, carrots, zucchini, and anything else my fids won't eat if offered separately in chop. I also add quinoa, barley, oats and fresh lentils to my birdie bread. In the evening they can have a small serving of high quality large hook bill seed mix without sunflower seeds. I add a small serving of their favorite nuts, including pine nuts and unsalted roasted deluxe nut mix that I get from Trader Joe's.

I’ve had good luck with chop! But, I warmed it up a few times and now I am having a hard time getting them to eat it fresh or defrosted. They simply won’t eat it and choose pellets until the next morning. Today I made some chip using the following ingredients in no particular measures or amounts; I just use my vitamin to wet chop it, drain the water and mix by hand. Broccoli, cauliflower, black beans, kidney beans, collard greens, carrots, (shoot just realized I forgot the corn as I’m writing this), jalapeño, hard boiled egg, rolled oats (to soak up remaining liquid), and tossed in red palm oil. Thoughts on this mix, critiques, anything?! Hers a shot of a helper inspecting to make sure everything is just right.

I too have noticed that it seems to be a lot of escaped birds lately and many of those seem to be in the UK and for exactly the reason you state, more open windows due to the heat wave. I also have screen doors and screened windows but my windows are rarely open as its too hot in the summer, must run a/c as I can't take the heat like I used to. Our children are gone so we have no little ones running in and out but for those who do they must be vigilant about those doors when the birds are out and about in the house.

Seeing as how you are in the U.K., you can easily get the chain fly screens over there. They work wonders to stop a bird from flying through an open door. This is what we used on the back door where I lost Tinkerbell twice. Once I put the chain screen up, she won't fly through the door. In case you're wondering, she flew through the door trying to find me. Once I was in the back yard cleaning cages with the door open and she managed to pull her bird room door open and flew out of the house looking for me. Fortunately I was about 50 feet outside and she flew right to me. The second time I was going through the door and had no idea she was in the living room. She landed on me as I was exiting the door.

So I just got my grey Ruby Friday she has accepted me very well she does nibble and sometimes bite a little harder but I try not to react and I spend all my free time with her (several hours) daily she steps up to anybody but she tends to bite more aggressively toward my wife even to the point she will “chase” her all around the house and whenever she tries to pick her up she gets a good bite and she is now scared of the bird and I want them to get along. She has started wearing gloves could that contribute to the bites she’s getting? I just want to try to shut this down before it gets too bad Ruby has began speaking to us repeating our words and singing us songs but only here and there. side note: what does the coooing sound she makes a lot mean?

Hi, Maggie here.... When we have our oatmeal in the morning, Joe has often come to join us but never participated, having a preference for Cheerios only. After approximately 7 years with Joe (when we got him, he was 2 with a HUGE amount of baggage), he decided last week he wanted to try oatmeal and surprised both of us by eating three teaspoonfuls . Then, he insisted on a piece of toast! Since then, he has settled into a routine....When we have oatmeal, he has two spoonfuls (but never on Sunday...he refuses to eat it on Sundays LOL), and then demands a piece of toast. BUUUTTT....it has to be no more than 1/2" to an 1" long, has to be toasted golden brown, and MUST have canola margarine from end to end. The other day I made the toast a little too dark and he just gave me the evil eye look......and I had to give him a new piece of lighter toast. Yes, it has taken years but I guess in Grey time, only a flash has passed before he has decided to expand his horizons and gain a new taste profile...

Love these answers...thank you! It is good to see that we are finally treating Greys as they view themselves...human. There are some foods (as everyone already knows) that we do not feed them, such as avocado, caffeine, etc. One ingredient that I am tending to avoid more and more is garlic. I found out that in Greys, it causes the red corpuscles to explode. It doesn't bother all Greys but I tend to err on the side of caution. Once again, moderation is the key.. We have a lot more members who can share what they feed...everybody learns from these posts.

Yes, I've tried raw and cooked cauliflower, broccoli, etc. etc. He will occasionally eat raw broccoli so I throw a piece on his skewer a couple times a week. The only thing he will ALWAYS eat is junk food. Pizza, bacon, sausage, cake, you get the drift. Of course he rarely gets to indulge in that. Basically, he's a spoiled toddler