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Excellent! Nice the way it turned out! I hope they all enjoy it.

I did take a look into the noise ordinance laws, which have been loosely written. I spoke with a lady who was very helpful. She said that if a noise complaint has been lodged, they will send someone near the property to assess the level of noise. If things are quiet, they then close the case. If more than 2 neighbors lodge a complaint, then the noise merits being considered a nuisance. There could be a fine. I only have the birds out in the aviary in small groups while I'm here. If Dexter or Shaylor, my 2 macaws get themselves going, then I bring them inside. The other birds really aren't problematic decibel-wise.

They just sent Jay home from the hospital after a week's stay. His condition is critical but the doctors and staff were afraid of his contracting secondary illnesses. Jay has Congestive Heart Failure due to Asbestosis (Navy 1964), and is in final stage lung disease. He has been on oxygen 24/7 since 2015. They increased his oxygen dosage because he is having trouble breathing. I am beside myself...I know prayers sent his way would help so much. He loves you all and this forum so much and reading this forum is often the highlight of his day. Thank you! Maggie

Today, for the first time, I had one of our macaws out in the new aviary. He wasn't any more noisy than he's been before, but for whatever reason my neighbor poked her head over our fence to speak with my son, saying that there's a noise ordinance and to take the bird inside. She's never ever complained about our birds before, so this took my completely by surprise. I've spent 2 years planning, saving, and finally building the aviary of my dreams. We don't live in a HOA, either. Her dogs bark incessantly while they're out, and the neighbors on the other side have very noisy dogs. My bird's call was infrequent, albeit loud, yet that put her over the edge. Am wondering what my rights are. I tried looking up our local city noise ordinance, which was vaguely written with respect to animals. Feeling very sad and quite stressed that I won't be able to utilize our aviary as I'd dreamed.

What do you guys do during dinner? Do you include your grey or not? If not, how do you enforce it or do it. I feel terrible not including him but he has gotten very disruptive. It used to be just me and that was fine. There are two other people living here now who are not crazy about moving glasses, silverware, and food out of his way. I get it. I just feel bad about not including him. What should I do?

Prayers and love to both of you. Howardine

Do you take your bird out into the sunlight on nice days? I found sunlight (outside and not at a window because it blocks important rays) is so good at mellowing my guys out. I call is "birdie valium". It is amazing to be how calming it is. Clipping tends to make greys more timid and neurotic. I wouldn't do that. Try sunlight and a better diet. Avoid pellets with artificial colors and flavors and emphasize organic fruits and vegetables, and other organic foods.

Sorry about your Dad. It is tough to lose a parent.

If her dogs are noisy as well, I'm puzzled as to why she'd complain. I'm not sure what your relationship is, but I would be to talk to her, point out that your birds aren't the only animals in the neighborhood making noise, and express your hopes that all can live in peace. I can't imagine a noise ordinance that wouldn't cover ALL species, not just birds. She is probably so accustomed to her dogs noises that she doesn't notice it any more. Maybe she needs to be reminded. As SR said, the first thing I'd do is document the other "critter" racket in the neighborhood, specifically hers.

Thank you Greywings...it brought a tear to our eyes...Appreciate the thoughts and prayers so much!! Maggie

Turns out the three implicated foods were all tested to be safe and untainted so I suspect maybe something in the home was at fault. Ingesting bad foods does not kill so quickly it takes hours or weeks in some cases not minutes it is still a very tragic loss remaining unexplained. Hope they did a necropsy.

Fun pic you had greyt timing.

Sending prayer and positive thoughts, hugs for you both.

She has probably noticed what you were building and knows that your planning to keep the birds outdoors more. She's probably trying to nip it in the bud. I would immediately started videoing the noise of the dogs in the neighborhood. You need a record of that. Especially hers. Ordinances are easy to look up, just have a look at your town's ordinance and see what it really says about noise. It's probably similar to ours: Sec. 3 Depending on how loud your macaw is, she may have a real issue. We had a macaw that lived about a block away across a field. When that thing was in full tilt that's all you could hear. One of the reasons I won't ever have a macaw or a cockatoo. Hell, my Greys can be damn noisy at times and won't shut it. This is a tough one. Not all is lost though. If worse come to worse, you may just have to wall it in and make it an outdoor birdroom.

I understand there was a spam problem. Found the offending permission issue, and I think I tagged all the forums for read only for guests, if I missed one let me know..

Here you go @Ray P: two quick and dirtys. I'm in the middle of making some cotton climbing nets so don't have time to edit or anything... * Sorry about the size of the video. I haven't figured out what tags this new forum supports yet so I'm stuck with direct embed of the link and it does whatever the heck it wants with it. *