KevinD

Lets just say for the sake of argument, that everytime you put a food bowl inside the cage, filled with everyting, IE peanuts, sunflower seeds, fruit, high dollar parrot feed. Your loved one never eats it ........ever..... He just throws it on the ground and when he gets to the bottom, throws the bowl out the door. NOW, Logic dictates he probably doent want/like it in the cage. Or so one would think. But a kind hearted human soul in the house says it would be animal abuse IF you don't put said bowl in the cage. THUS my quandry. He likes to eat outside of the cage. BUT im a bad person for removing the bowl before he throws it out the door. Keep in mind, I feed him ALL day OUTSIDE the cage, and he eats all day on the perch. It's not like im starving him. He just doesnt like it inside the cage. Any thoughts? Suggestions ? Am I a bad person ? It just seems logical to do what he wants. Since COVID hit ive been working out of the house. Thats close to two years. In case you havent guessed Im a network engineer or thats what there calling me these days. The Kind hearted human works off site...... ok you guessed the WIFE LOL I dont think Im a bad person, I think, Im just doing what he wants. There are a bunch of toys in the cage he plays with the door open, AFTER he tosses the bowl. If it were me, I wouldnt appreciate food in the bed...... I dunno. Maybe im too methodical in my thinking.

You dont need an app, this system will adapt to ANY internet device that can access a web site. It looks a little narrow, but it lines up perfectly and is fully functional.

Motel 6 and Tom Bodett, the lights are on LOL. I edited the cuss word, sorry, I thought the filter would catch it. But it did generate some conversation

I dont get it, this place is is like Linus in Charlie Brown, a comfort blanket. Like so many places I host is a ghost town. The way of the private fourms is done. Everything has gone to facebook or instagram. Ecuse my french, but these places are gone, everywhere. I refuse to give them up, my wife bitches at me all the time, why not give in to facebook and instagram and the like. I say because ill be the last man standing, and I will keep a platform for old folks like me that appreciates this platform. This is one of 50 I buck facebook, twiter an instagram. You have the pleasure of being the part of the old mom and pop vhs store. Dont take it for granted, we are few and far between. I will continue, please dont give any reason for folks to go elsewhere, This is a weath of knowledge. Anyways just saying, maybe you can contribute more, a thought or a story.......anything Use it like a personal diary, i dont know, I dont have all the answers. But when i go for the big dirt nap, there wont be anyone to advocate this kind of communnication. Dont take for grated what you have.

BTW, Sukie is sitting behind me and said "Hello"

Oh, the problem is no one actually says what they feel. Dont feel guilty for being upset about getttin bit. Or What you want to do at the time of the bite. In the end these greys are out of there enviroment for what ever reason. Sukei was actually in Africa, stolen from everything he knows and stuck in a box, with his fellow birds dying on top of him in a crate. I just tried to save his life, and I did, bribed two kuwaiti officials, got taggged by fish and wild life as an evil person, yet here he is alive. I would not change a thing. I did what I did because it was the right thing to do. Against the law maybe, but Sukei is alive and makes many people happy, and I think generally he is happy too, in fact when mom is home, and plays with him, he is REALLY happy. He would be dead if I didnt do what I did, so what is right and what is wrong, Justice or reality. Personally, I wish everyone would leave thes birds alone and let them live in the wild, the way God meant it to be, but I digress. Its not going to happen. I saved a life, God will judge me if I need judging. In the mean time, we do the best we can.

I cant believe, after spending 7 grand to save his life, I told him, if he bites me ONE more time, I would put him in a pot and eat him. He is a marksman, bites in the same place everytime on my right hand, so much so the scars are HUGE in the EXACT same spot. Got to give him that, he is precise. Of course I never would, he is a moma's boy. But damn it its pissing me off. I think the point of this post is they gravitate to one person in the family. One time reccently, I fell asleep on the couch, and he flew off the cage and landed on my head, tapped me on the head and said Sukei loves daddy. So if your having biting issues, just wait them out. Maybe he didnt think it was fair to bite a sleeping person. These greys always amaze me.

He just is just buying a new suit. Even Humans do it. Donate the old, and in with the new

Guys, I was ina bad place a few month ago, I was sick, and alot of it was classified, Im doing better now. Place will stay open. Remember if the site goes away, the new site is https://greyfourms.org I cant control the domain name as we dont own it, its a backup. Merry christmas to all and a happy new year.

While I was in here, I upgraded the software. Also, a thought. Probably is Sukei specific, but this Christmas I upgraded my 5.1 sound system to a Dolby Atmos. Sukei is a really High strung individual, and I put on some christmas music after the upgrade, and he turned into a statue LOL He seems to be very calm almost statue like, he cant process the 7.1 LOL Disclaimer, this may not work with your Grey :) Anyways Merry Christmas, and Happy New Years.

Just a reminder

Life is sometimes boring, and repetitive, and sometimes you might might be going through the motions. If you live each day as if it were your last, things might get interesting

The only drawback to doing this, is he takes 3 months to stop singing happy birthday to Sukei LOL. No worries, Welcome.

Haven't posted Sukie in a while. He turned 8 years old on 4/22 or as best as we can guess. We do the cake thing every year, he seems to like it. Seems like yesterday I pulled him from that nasty Middle East hell hole. Thanks to this place I was able to get him home. A lot of good advice here. No we don't let him eat the cake LOL.

Thanks for reposting this, I'm sorry it got lost on the restore

All, As no one here controls the domain name greyforums.net, and it could expire or be transferred or sold.... greyforums.org has been secured as a backup domain. Should one day we loose the domain for whatever reason, the site will be transferred to greyforums.org The domain will then be transferred to Taylon. I have no reason to believe the domain will go away, but I want you guys to always have the information stored here. After everything was repaired, I just got to thinking about it and want to have a back up plan. Backups are for emergencies only, so no worries. Just being safe.

Sukie has settled into his new house, a REALLY big cage. He adapted a lot faster this time then in Kuwait. He doesn't bite as much and if he does, it isn't rip your skin off stuff, just a "Hey I'm here, pay attention to me" Im trying to get the skin thing straight, Im working on it, but it involves a third party vendor. Anyways, thats the deal. Hang in there folks, life isn't as bad as it seems sometimes.

Just curious those of you that have your greys since they were born (Or shortly there after) Sukie's first words were "You Know What?" He hasn't said that in years, I was wondering if your grey forgot their first words. I guess they have to make room in their brains for everything else they say, Sukie is probably at 1200 words and sentences at this point, but I cant get him to say his first words. The story is funny because I was sitting in the living room back in the Middle East, and he said it. My wife's cousin was there with me, and when he said it, her cousin said what? And I said what? He said you said "You know what?" And I said no I didn't and we blew it off, I continued to watch TV and he continued playing his video game. Then Sukei said it again LOUD, and we both looked up LMAO ,

You know, your right, even during the DB conversion I missed this one. Thats why Im a fan of not having too many forums and sub categories, but I didnt want to change what you had, just keep it going. I stand corrected. Thanks!

Chat box is ok, but if you feel the need to cater to long winded soap box posts it doesn't work LOL, Yea off topic or similar

Maybe we need to make one, just for general chat. I was just thinking as I heard from one of my friends still in the Middle East, (Have to leave the classified info out) but how lucky those of us that live in America are, all of us, black, white, yellow, brown, every color every creed are? Were so divided by political and petty differences that we individually think America SHOULD be, and we forget (Or never have seen) what it is like to live in some 3rd world country. Conditions that the average American could not even conceive of. Yet we squabble about our petty political differences. I can assure you that you do not ever want to see it, let alone know how the government operates, or the conditions under what you would live in a third world country, and how much is taken for granted. I just want to say, that whatever God you believe in, or not believe in, know that you still live in the most blessed country in the world if not by God, then by chance should you be an atheist, and a lot of people gave their lives in pursuit of keeping it that way. So the next time a discussion is had about all the terrible things going on here, remember this. You STILL live in the most blessed country in the world, and not to let petty differences in opinions divide you. We are ALL Americans, Not Irish Americans, Not Italian Americans, Not African Americans, ect....ect, but ALL one thing, AMERICANS, and if you doubt me, I've seen blood from everyone, and it is ALL red. There is one fact that applies to everyone and everything through out the history of every civilization, and it applies to humans and animals and Grey's too, United in a group we survive, and alone we fall. Maybe we are doomed to make the same mistakes of the Roman Empire and the like, but if enough people learn from the mistakes of the past, maybe, we have a chance. I use the Roman empire as an example only because how long it lasted but it fell, divided, and we as a country are like 3 years old compared to that dynasty. Just pay it forward, and do something different, maybe we can make it, maybe we cant, the children ARE the future, teach them REAL history, what really happened in the past, not some jaded college professor's version of it. The generations before us gave us an example to follow. Are we smart enough to learn from it? Are we smart enough to know that everything bad being argued about is about things that were done by people long in the grave? Use the good things instead of the bad things? I just don't know. There is verse in the bible, I don't think anyone can argue with if your being honest about it with yourself. "For with much wisdom comes much sorrow; the more knowledge, the more grief." Just my thought for the weekend.

I'm not going to advertise for anyone, but after the issues I've had with Sukei lately, I decided to try something, and even though I don't believe 99% of the crap I read about parrot additives on the internet, I decided what the hell, and ordered some feather "Enhancing powder" off Amazon. I swear after 48 hours he stopped picking his feathers, doesn't try and bite me as much and over all seems to be in a more calm state of mind (no more biting his toenails either) He doesn't seem as pissed off as usual. So without turning this into an advertisement thread, and please don't mention specific products, have you guys ever bought anything "Claiming to calm Parrots" and get them to stop picking at themselves? I figured I just wasted some money but had nothing to loose. He was really making me think, there is something else I can do. I took Spring time into the thought process as a lot grays seem to loose their minds in spring with the horny deal, but he started to act up in mid winter. I just cant explain the change in him, and it's not just my perception of the situation, but the folks that interact with him, that have no Idea I changed anything I was doing. Also keeping in mind he is an African grey, as in, he came from Africa and not domestically bred, and I dont know if that has anything to do with it, but tried to consider all the variables. Anyways just curious as to anyone that tried something like this with supplements and your experiences. Keep in mind this is not a Parrot on a sunflower seed diet, he gets the high dollar nutritional feed, fresh fruits and vegetables and everything the experts recommend, and then some, apples, grapes, oranges, lettuce, corn, he eats more healthy stuff then I do. LOL

You know I read an article, I cant remember from where, but it said Greys only bite in captivity. Not really sure how they tested the metrics on that or confirmed the findings, but at this point in my research is becoming painful LOL SO to all those folks it the the thread "The parrot bite me club" don't take it personal, I sense no malice on his part, and probably those it has happened to, there inst any malice. I'm going to give it a break for a while start again at the beginning later. It kinda makes you wonder, if the famous Einstein bird ever bit anyone, I imagine if he did, they wouldn't say, bust up his reputation LOL.

I got to thinking about it, right and wrong is an abstract construct that animals cant comprehend, you cant really be pissed over an action that an animal does because they cant understand the concept. They are conditioned by the carrot and the stick. They react only by what they know, one action gets them what they want, and one action takes away something they want. I digress

The damage 24 hours later, we almost had parrot for lunch LOL (Just Kidding)