Falconeer Posted March 10, 2007 Share Posted March 10, 2007 Hi, I think my parrot hates me. Its been two days now. The first night, it just screamed when anyone even entered the room where i had kept it. Now it lets people in today, but when I tried to make friends with it but offering food, it just won't let me come closer by screaming. I still did not give up and moved closer so atleast it would taste it. Please help me. I am desperate to hold it and play with it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaffyToons Posted March 11, 2007 Share Posted March 11, 2007 I've been thinking about your situation, Falconeer, and the only thing I can come up with is time and lots of patience. These guys can be so sensitive. Keep things on a schedule that your bird doesn't have any surprises. His/her world has been turned upside down since he/she came home. Give him/her time. By the way, what is your bird's name? Do not rush things, take it very slowly, and I'm certain he/she will warm up to you. Please keep us posted on your progress! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan13 Posted March 13, 2007 Share Posted March 13, 2007 Falconeer- I bought a Timneh 2 months ago and I had the same problem, He screamed on the way home from the airport, he screamed whenever you got close to his cage. I think you are suppose to not mess with your bird for the first few days. I found out he wasnt hand tamed also. Keep the back of his cage covered during the day so he feels he has security behind him. I have had mine for 7 weeks now and I was in the same situation as you are in. I got him to eat out of my hand after the first week. I am taming mine right now by putting him in another room and petting him and trying to make him step up with a stick and my hand. I do agree with patience on this for a little while. Its only been 2 days? Well now its been 5 days or so? Do you keep his cage covered at night? When I first got Pee Wee I sat infront of his cage and did homework for hours infront of him. I watched TV infront of his cage. I ate infront of him, eveyrthing I could, I did infront of his cage. He has grown to be comfortable around me and is doing well in his taming sessions. Dont force yourself on him now, let him get used to his surroundings for a while. Talk to him nicely. Good Luck and keep us posted! Ryan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falconeer Posted March 14, 2007 Author Share Posted March 14, 2007 Thanks Ryan, I am doing exactly that. Everything in front of him. However, he is NOT in the cage. His wings are clipped, so I keep him on top of the cage (there's a porche there). He hates being in the cage. He is better than the timneh you got I think, cause from the second day he was eating out my hand and has not yet (and I hope never!) bitten me yet. I even petted his chest the other day for about 5 days, but I am not doing that for atleast another month or so. Just want trust at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan13 Posted March 14, 2007 Share Posted March 14, 2007 I am glad to hear you are having success. I just got my parrot off a guy in florida and had him sent to my through airplane. I am pretty sure they guy screwed me but it isnt Pee Wee's fault. I wouldnt trade him for anything but I am glad to hear you can pet yours. That is good he is coming out of his cage. Mine does come out every morning and lots at night. I could have had my bird eating out of my hand earlier I think but I had never owned a bird before and I wasnt sure of his reactions until i stuck a peanut close to him and even though he screamed, he came and got it! I honestly thought I would get a bird and hold him that day and everything would go smooth but with Pee Wee not being hand tamed, I have learned alot off him . Everyone always says Patience patience patience. I do agree unless you are in my case where its been 2 months and he is still doing the same thing so you have to take him away from his cage. Good Luck though! Ryan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falconeer Posted March 14, 2007 Author Share Posted March 14, 2007 Ryan, Please do not get me wrong. I did not mean to say return her or anything. I bet your bird is perfect. I was just saying that atleast BooBoo was not like that. I am sorry, did not mean to offend you in anyway. Now, about your bird. YOU ARE AT AN ADVANTAGE HERE... BOOBOO takes food from me and throws it away, now here is what you do... GIVE her only veggies from today on and some fruits... KEEP THE PEANUTS FOR TRAINING. If she took one from you, just make a certain time a day for those and at that time, you talk to her first, then calmly give her a peanut, say her name and all and just try to calm her... IF SHE GROWLS, pull the peanut back, give a stern look and say a louder NO. JUST TRY THIS PLEASE! WOW MAN, I wish BooBoo did that! We can both learn so much from each other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan13 Posted March 14, 2007 Share Posted March 14, 2007 Falconeer - You did not offend me in anyway. I was only saying that I am glad you didnt get a bird that was untamed like mine. I guess you could say I got a bird from a questionable source, but he did send the bird, an untamed one. I am upset about that but it is not Pee Wee's fault so anything you said didnt offend me. I was just telling you my opinion on your situation and giving you my experiences with my Timneh. I only give him peanuts for a treat, I dont give him that many. Whenever I say Peanuts its funny because people usually say, Dont give them to him all the time! Well I dont, only once in a while for treats, I also have aviary cakes, which he loves for treats and are very good for him too. EVeryday he gets a nice mixture of veggies and some fruit. I have his diet down pretty good. As far as your bird taking food from you and throwing it away, I think alot of birds do that at first or still do it, You have to keep trying with the same peice of fruit or vegetable. Pee Wee LOVES grapes, apples, pears, corn, and Sweet potatoe. Those are his favorite but he is getting really good at eating other things too. I try new veggies and fruit sometimes to get him to like a mixture by not giving him his favorites because birds wont starve themselves. He has started eating his pellets and loving them( Thank God)! In your case, find out what Boo Boo likes and it will be to your advantage because you can use that to lure him towards you! Pee Wee stopped growling for food. He knows he is safe when we feed him, especially when it comes to treats like peanuts or sometimes I like to make a sweet potatoe and hand feed it to him because he is so gentle takin it off my fingertip. I am fairly new to birds but have gained alot of knowledge from readings and observing, but am willing to take advice. So you did not offend me in any way shape or form! Good Luck! Ryan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falconeer Posted March 14, 2007 Author Share Posted March 14, 2007 Thanks Ryan, Okay that's great. Just a few hours back, I went shopping and bought some fruit. I am not a fruit person, but once in a while I get some stuff. Today it was all for BooBoo. I got some grapes, some apples, and some pear. I gave him some grapes after washing them nicely, but before giving him, I took a plate full for myself just to excite him. IT WORKED. He first saw me eating. I made noises like mmmmm as if really having fun with those grapes. He came to the edge of the cage that is close to me, otherwise he stays on the far edge and was carefdully looking at the plate. Finally went to his tray and ate. Can you tell me where to get the aviary cakes and pellets online? I live in a country where all the pet store sell seed mix ONLY and most of the pet supplies are for dogs and cats only. I hate seed mixes. I wanted to get some pellets or something else. He is acting different today... real friendly... gotta get more grapes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan13 Posted March 14, 2007 Share Posted March 14, 2007 Go to this site and look near the bottom, it has the cakes. http://www.lafeber.com/Products/avicakes.aspx Here is another site but for Pellets. I feed my grey Zupreem fruit mix pellets. Here is the site for those. I have a store I go to 20 miles from my town to buy food in bulk for my bird, but I hope you have success with these sites. If not, go to Yahoo.com or Google.com and just type Zupreem pellets or Avi-cakes. http://www.zupreem.com/animal/bird/nourish/avian_m.shtml Also try to get a sweet potatoe at the store next time, Pee Wee loves his sweet potatos! Good luck! Ryan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falconeer Posted March 14, 2007 Author Share Posted March 14, 2007 Ryan, I got a serious issue at the moment. I guess you live in the US, where I live, it's 2AM. about a hour ago BooBoo finally became very friendly and started coming close to me and making noises that got louder and louder. I did not want him to do so so I started waving... big mistake. Anyways, now the noise was gone at about 1:45 AM. I went to bed. just as I was about to fall asleep, I heard some crackling at my door. BooBoo somehow found his way in the darkness to my door, clibed all the way up to the knob and was trying to get in. I felt sorry. anyways, now he is all wide awake and I got this job stuff at 10 am! I am in serioius deep trouble. Now I have left the lights in his room on so he finds his way back to his cage... me trying to catch some sleep... Birds! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 15, 2007 Share Posted March 15, 2007 Well Falconeer, never a dull moment with Boo Boo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falconeer Posted March 15, 2007 Author Share Posted March 15, 2007 Yesterday all day he was great. This morning, just started acting like he's brand new here. Growling at me, running around and all. I just left him like that. I got home and found him in his cage, playing. But with the same attitude. So, fine! i just locked the cage. I am gonna leave him there now for a week of so till he tames a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan13 Posted March 15, 2007 Share Posted March 15, 2007 My friend who has parrots told me that Parrots have their off days just like humans, sometimes you wake up and it just isnt your day, same way with birds. Its weird he is comfortable one day and growling the next, but he is still very new. I wouldnt leave him there for a week till he tames a bit, leaving a bird alone when he growls enforces negative reinforcement. Give him a day or so to chill out and then continue working with him. Did the websites give you any luck with the treats and pellets you were looking for? Ryan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 16, 2007 Share Posted March 16, 2007 Falconeer, you could actually get it over your heart to leave him locked up in his cage for a week? :whistle: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falconeer Posted March 16, 2007 Author Share Posted March 16, 2007 Fairy... guilt treatment?:silly: You tell me what to do with him? He is only put in solitary confinement for a week, till he learns that I mean no harm and associates me with food. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdiprofio Posted March 16, 2007 Share Posted March 16, 2007 Falconeer, While I understand your frustration with your bird's fluctuating moods, I can assure you that locking him in his cage for a week will not help this. If anything, it may make it worse. Your objective with any new parrot is to bond with the bird. This will require patience and understanding. Firstly, if he turns on you growling or biting, show no reaction at all. Turn your back and leave the room for 15 minutes. Do not yell or get excited, as this will only show him the attention that he wants. At the very most, put him in his cage and shut the door quietly and walk away for 15 minutes. DO NOT MAKE A SCENE. It is very important that you understand that these birds are in a lot of cases not many generations from wild. They still have many of their instincts from the wild. You will need to learn to read your bird's body language. They always have a tell. If they are getting aggitated, they may puff up, growl,stomp. In the case of a Macaw, their cheeks will turn redish when they are stressed. Other birds like Cockatoos will stomp when they are angry. Every bitd is different, but you will need to watch for your bird's signs and respect them. It is a game of respect between the two of you that will bond you. Over stimulation is another issue. If you notice your bird's eyes when he/she is excited, you will see that they do what is called pinning or flashing. The eyes will actually give the appearance of flashing as the pupils dialate and expand rapidly. This will happen when the bird is stimulated..over stimulation may cause your bird to bite. Yes thats right, if your bird gets to happy..it may bite. They just have issues controlling themselves when they get to excited. You will often see this behaviour with a puppy or kitten. Again, watch for the signs. Your bird needs to feel safe. He needs to feel that you are the provider of all things good. With that said, you should also know that as your bird ages, usually around 4 years of age, he/she will come into sexuality. This is a confusing time for a bird, not unlike humans. They become very hormonal and often unpredictable. Some become nasty to the point of scaring their owners. That stage will require you to be even more patient. I am sure that with love and patients, like all things in life, you will bond with BooBoo and have a freind for life. Cheers, Joe www.parrothaven.ca Post edited by: jdiprofio, at: 2007/03/16 14:16 Post edited by: jdiprofio, at: 2007/03/16 14:46<br><br>Post edited by: jdiprofio, at: 2007/03/16 14:47 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falconeer Posted March 17, 2007 Author Share Posted March 17, 2007 Thanks Jdiprofio I'm gonna let him out again. I think a few hours a day should be good. He has to come back for the food atleast. Thanks for your advice though. Falconeer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
careyka1 Posted March 18, 2007 Share Posted March 18, 2007 He's scared. Two days isn't much. Just give it sometime, and keep other people away for now. Once he knows your not going to hurt him, he'll relax. Trust is the key. Good Luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreyMiester Posted March 18, 2007 Share Posted March 18, 2007 I sense a force of nature here. Nothing will ever change untill you earn his/her trust. You need to be calm and cool, and just talk to it just a few minutes a day. Baby steps.... Baby steps...<br><br>Post edited by: TheGreyMiester, at: 2007/03/18 16:37 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 19, 2007 Share Posted March 19, 2007 Falconeer wrote: Fairy... guilt treatment?:silly: Works the best, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 19, 2007 Share Posted March 19, 2007 Falconeer wrote: Fairy... guilt treatment?:silly: Works the best, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falconeer Posted March 19, 2007 Author Share Posted March 19, 2007 Fairy! Lol what were you drinking while posting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 20, 2007 Share Posted March 20, 2007 :laugh: probably water at that time of the night But tell me: did it work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdgranna Posted March 20, 2007 Share Posted March 20, 2007 Your bird should not be out of his cage at night. It is not safe especially as his environment is new. I agreee with Joe, locking him up for a week will do nothing except make him miserable. When you let him out of his cage, each time, make a fuss of him and tell him a greeting you would like him to repeat...one that he will associate with coming out of his cage for time with you. You must be very patient. greys are very sensitive. You have a chance to bond with your bird. Don't ruin it with impatience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falconeer Posted March 20, 2007 Author Share Posted March 20, 2007 Granna... Thanks! I try to give him his free time now. Fairy: LOL... It did Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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