Problem with my grey - please help

[martix]

Hi,

 

I own two grey parrots and suddenly one of them has a problem with walking. He seems to have problems even to stay on a twig, I mean to keep its balance,  it looks like his legs are not working properly. Vet came to see my parrot but this particular one didnt specialise in exotic birds. The parrot for sure didnt break its leg and also it looks like he doesnt suffer with pain. It might fall down or perhaps it crashed into something. Is it possible that he might find it difficult to walk after having a crash? If it was a flue or some other virus I dont think it would go ill within one day...

 

thank you for everything

[MommaFawkes]

Your grey needed to see an avian vet, asap! This could be MANY things. One possibility is and ear infection, another is a seisure. I really have no clue but I think he needs the vet. Good luck!

[BMustee]

Yes, we are not Avian vets here so we can not give you a diagnosis, but there is something VERY wrong with your grey. It sounds like it is a neurological problem to me and that isn't something you want to wait on. Don't have your bird seen by a regular vet...it must be an Avian vet.

[lovemyGreys]

sorry but as BMustee has said we are not qualified vets but we are here to advise & the advice you will get is that your grey needs to see an avian vet ASAP.Please keep us informed on the prognosis.

[danmcq]

Ditto on an Avia Vet visit is a must ASAP!

[martix]

All right avia vet will met us tomorrow. I think it isnt neurological problem. Grey is playful, he is eating, drinking and so..but talons doesnt work well..i will inform you... thanks a lot

[judygram]

Sorry to hear your grey has a problem but he does need to see an avian vet, something is not quite right. Let us know what you find out because we care.

 

Then introduce yourself in the welcome room and tell us a little more about you and your two greys.

[martix]

thank you all i will post photo of my sweeties soon

[martix]

so, our grey was under x-ray today but avian vet found nothing wrong.. nothing broken or something else.. its strange.. maybe its only cracked talon..time will show but its very difficult for me..

[coolnana5]

i was told when my grey lost his balance or not walking properly that he needed more calcium in his diet.. Grey's i was told, need lots of calcium.. good luck

[spookyhurst]

Did the vet do any bloodwork?

[martix]

if wont be better blood test will be next step .. whats the best solution get calcium to grey ?

[danmcq]

Yes, calcium deficiency can cause very severe symptoms in Greys. It is normally caused by their parents not having sufficient Calcium when breeding and the chicks are born with very weak and sometimes deformed bone structure. The other way they become deficient is you could be giving them sufficient levels of it, but it is not metabolized due to a vitamin D3 shortage which their bodies produce from UVB from sunlight, artificial light or Pellet diets fortified with D3 such as Harrisons, Katee etc..

 

A blood test is the only way to determine the Calcium level in your Grey.

 

Please keep us posted.

[judygram]

Here is a link to foods rich in calcium:

 

http://www.greyforums.net/forums/bird-food/28614-calcium-for-greys.html#28614

[yvette]

How is he now? Any better? If he has pain from a crash, it may just take a few days to heal.

[martix]

i think that desease called hypocalcemy as you said here grey need more calcium. we are going at bloodtests tomorrow. i bought calcium carbonicum for drinking at apothecary. i will inform you..

[dblhelix]

Martix, I hope you see improvement soon. In any case, I would not provide calcium supplement unless recommended by an avain vet after confirmed blood work. Unecessary/excess calcium can cause severe problems as well. Most greys (males and females) will do perfectly fine their entire lives w/o any supplement provided they are on a balanced diet. Please keep us posted on the status.

[martix]

yes of course i know that calcium could be dangerous but sympthoms looks to be clear. after few hours parrot looks to be more balanced. now im going to buy some good UV-B.

[lovemyGreys]

I would have your greys calcium levels checked first before useing supplements,a high intake of calcium and vitamin D is a potential source of hypercalcemia , calcification of the bones and some tissues, such as kidneys or heart.

[martix]

Our grey absolved bloodtesting and everything looks to be good except calcium which is under normal level..so it is hypocalcemy..parrot got one vitamine and one more calcium injection and 3 more calcium injection ahead..grey lost muscle strenght in his left talon and i hope it will be back soon..he is in good mood but problem with walking is still here..do you have any ideas how long take fully health ?? vet doesnt know that..

[lovemyGreys]

:huh: Well if your vet isnt able to answer that question are you sure he is an avian qualified vet ?

[martix]

so i think i have little problem with my second grey.. he see that first grey is less stronger than him because he is still ill..and his mood has been changed to agressive stance?? is it better to separate both ? health of first parrot is still same..nothing better nothing worst its sad

[lovemyGreys]

If there has been no improvement with your Grey's foot/leg problem then i strongly suggest a second opinion from the vet, from what you first described there is something wrong.

If the other grey has picked up that he is the stronger of the two,he may be trying to assert himself as flock leader.He is trying to dominate the other grey.If they are in the same cage i would advise that you separate them for safety reasons. Supervise all out of cage time.When the stronger grey is aggresive to the weaker grey return him to the cage for 5 minutes & ignore him, he needs to understand that his bad behaviour will not be tolerated.Share yourself equal between both greys, do not let one become jealous of the other.You need to show him that you are flock leader or he will continue his behaviour.

[martix]

disease of first parrot is called secondary nutrical hypoclacemy. it will take about 3-4 week get better stance.

We can separate second grey tomorrow. I know his behaviours. He will very very sad

 

We will send blood for testing of gender first parrot tomorrow. If it will be a girl it is possible of low level of calcium is cause of producing egg..maybe..

[lovemyGreys]

martix how old are your greys ? maybe you do have a male & female,the bad behaviour may also be that they are reaching sexual maturity,A Breeding hen with Hypocalcaemia would suffer profound effects from it,it can produce Infertility,If she does produce eggs, they may be soft-shelled, which makes them difficult to lay and unlikely to survive. An egg-laying hen has a tremendous demand for Calcium, and if this is not supplied in the diet, then reserves laid down in her bones will be withdrawn to go to egg production. Are these pet greys you have or do you intend to breeed them ?