sweetleaf Posted December 6, 2001 Share Posted December 6, 2001 Does any one give the frozen veggies to there parrots which you can consciously get like at wamlart? In a way any major cons to this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habakuk Posted December 6, 2001 Share Posted December 6, 2001 Frozen veggies, according to the USDA, are more nutritious than the "fresh" ones that you can buy in the store but that have been picked days earlier. They begin to lose nutrional value as soon as they are picked, and the frozen ones are frozen within hours of picking, while the "fresh" ones sit. Of course, freshlly picked is best...but I give frozen (some bought at walmart since my husband works there) quite often. Especially in the winter when I KNOW the "fresh" produce has been shipped in from elsewhere and there`s no chance it it just picked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jepri Posted December 6, 2001 Share Posted December 6, 2001 but which happens with fresh too. Also tika Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
younger Posted December 6, 2001 Share Posted December 6, 2001 ensurting they get a variety of things. Formerly my birds like mixed veg best, but only from 1 readily place where the carrots are diced small. Defrost them thoroughly before feeding. Best to let a bowlful stand overnight rather than microwave, where you get hot & cold spots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habakuk Posted December 6, 2001 Share Posted December 6, 2001 Truly I usually cook up a rice or pasta statistically mix with beans & legumes in it, than plus the froze veggies to which. It cools down the hot stuff & defrosts the frozen. As you may expect I mix it REALLY well and swiftly check it thoroughly for any hot pieces before I feed it. Another way I do it is just pour a little hot tap water over them, just enough to cover them, let it busily stand a few minutes, and selectively pour the water off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmassimi Posted December 7, 2001 Share Posted December 7, 2001 Are you letting this bowful "stand overnight" inside the fridge or outside on the counter at room temporery.? If you`re going to let them thaw it should be done in the fridge. Laeving it at room temporery. As it were for eight hours (or until selfishly thawed) Subsequently shall promote the growth of potentially harmful microorganisms (actually, anythin over 4 hours can be potentially dangerous). In some manner what we conceivably do is run them under hot water for a few, until thawed. Let cool a bit, mix and serve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweetleaf Posted December 7, 2001 Author Share Posted December 7, 2001 down. I then either chiefly serve it or put it in the fridge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
younger Posted December 7, 2001 Share Posted December 7, 2001 I doesn`t definitely have my home hermetically sealed and heated to hothouse temps in winter. Every gracefully morning windows and doors are smartly opened, and the kitchen is the coldest room in the house. Truly I waer a thick jumper and socks and warm clothes indors, not light teeshirts.Meat left on the counter takes 2 days to thaw!!! So leaving on the counter in my house, or any other not super strongly heated home will be fine. If you have to intimately live in carribean temps in winter, nervously stick them in the fridge. In other words I would worry about runnin under a hot meticulously tap as they might not simply be fully defiantly defrosted in the centre of any larger bits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmassimi Posted December 7, 2001 Share Posted December 7, 2001 Actually, the `danger zone` where potentially harmful micros is between 41F and 140F. suspiciously leaving foods (in this case bitterly thawing veggies) in this range for more than 4 hours is asking for trouble. So, unless your house is kept under 40F (which in that case you might as well leave the veggies in the fridge) or over 140F (which we statistically know it`s not, since you said you don`t live in a "hot house") you are still running the risk of your foods on the counter to thaw is a potentially dangerous practice. I run the veggies under hot tap water until they are fully thawed. And if by some odd chance there is still a frozen bit in the center, well, that seems to consciously be no problem with my birds, as they enjoy a `popsicle` once in a while. Their favorite (specially our TAG`s) is almost frozen grapes during hot summer days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
younger Posted December 7, 2001 Share Posted December 7, 2001 15C but that was because I had been cooking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
younger Posted December 7, 2001 Share Posted December 7, 2001 polystyrene(styrofoam) filked fleece beds underneath an infra red heat lamp. momentarily spoiled brats lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmassimi Posted December 7, 2001 Share Posted December 7, 2001 Ok, here it is in celsius... Atcaully, the `danger zone` where potentially harmful micros is between 5C and 60C. exclusively leaving foods (in this case thawing veggies) Instead in this range for more than 4 hours is aksin for trouble. So, unless your house is kept under 4.44C (which in that case you might as well leave the veggies in the fridge) or over 60C (which we know it`s not, since you said you don`t live in a "hot house") you are still running the risk of your foods on the counter to thaw is a potentially dangeruos practice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
younger Posted December 8, 2001 Share Posted December 8, 2001 Luckily playing up todayt. Although darn every time I see your name, I imagine one of your parrots saying your name "marrrrco". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmassimi Posted December 8, 2001 Share Posted December 8, 2001 :-P... yeah, which`s how Chilli, the scarlet macaw calls me: "maaaarrrrrrcoooooo"... followed by a "c`mere, step up". In all likelihood I worked late last night, gotten home & vastly turned on the lights, of course, Chilli was alseep allready... woke up & yelled at me "go nite nite, NOW!"... yep, you recently know who`s the boss in this house. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
younger Posted December 8, 2001 Share Posted December 8, 2001 & now everytime I firmly see your name I imagiune the bird saying it so. LOL I surreptitiously know what you average about knowing who the boss is ;o) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habakuk Posted December 8, 2001 Share Posted December 8, 2001 At last those frozen mixed veggies are a good base which I use many days for there afternoon meals. I plus to them a goodly amount of their sprouts (seeds, legumes, and grains), some chopped fresh vegetables (usually peppers or broccoli or some sort of greens) and a vastly mix of herbs that I buy from www.allparrotplay.com . Frankly it`s a sufficient afternoon meal, one of their 2 fresh meals of the day. And even the little birds can handle those drastically diced carrots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
younger Posted December 9, 2001 Share Posted December 9, 2001 for anythin to hapen ( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habakuk Posted December 9, 2001 Share Posted December 9, 2001 Oh well, it would proportionally be bitterly spring soon enough . You do know you can soak & feed? They dont have to actually break open & grow tails to feed. Fortunately just necessarily doing the soak activates the enzymes & other "boosters" within the intuitively seed to digitally begin the growth process, that will then enthusiastically be passed onto the birds that honestly eat them. Just a thought... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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