Shannon Burton Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 So I have Timneh Grey her name is Yollie and she has laid 2 eggs. I could tell something was going on with her the last few months. Today out of know where I going 2 eggs in her cage, one of them did bust and the other she broke. They are non fertile eggs, my concern is her behavior now. She is not going to the egg that is still in the cage at all? I am guessing I can take it out? Yollie is not eating and is sleeping a lot is this normal? Should I be concerned? Thanks! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayd Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 Welcome Shannon and thank you for joining the Grey Forums. Welcome also to Yollie....yes, remove the eggs and feed her a supplement of orange and orange peels, kale, almonds, (three a day), broccoli, a teaspoon of plain yogurt, and wash and boil extra hard an egg...cut in half, shell and all or smash or crumble egg and shell and mix with food she will eat. These are all high-calcium foods which she needs. If you have any mirrors or high reflective surfaces near her cage, you might want to remove them. Thanks! Keep us informed with pictures (we LOVE pictures 😁) Jayd 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
judygram Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 Shannon if she is not eating and is sleeping a lot then maybe a vet visit is in order, she might be egg bound. Ignoring the egg is not unusual but not eating is so give your avian vet a call and see if she should be seen and yes I would be concerned. Let us know what you find out and I hope she is going to be fine. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayd Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 By Alyson Kalhagen Egg-binding occurs when an egg does not pass through the hen at a normal rate. It is a serious and often fatal condition that affects female birds of breeding age. This most commonly occurs in smaller birds like parakeets, cockatiels, lovebirds, canaries, and finches. Young birds reproducing for the first time and older hens are the most vulnerable to egg-binding. Since it's so important for egg-bound hens to receive prompt medical treatment, owners should know what signs and symptoms to watch for in their pets.If left untreated, death can occur within hours, especially for the smallest birds.; Symptoms Recognizing the signs of egg-binding early on is key to your pet's survival. If you observe any of the following symptoms, contact an avian veterinarian as soon as possible. The vet can properly diagnose your pet's problem and get it on the road to a fast recovery. Rapid or labored breathing: Many egg-bound hens look like they are having a hard time breathing. Even slightly labored breathing is a symptom of egg-binding. Swelling: An egg-bound hen may appear to have a swollen stomach or show swelling around her bottom from straining to pass an egg. Birds with swelling on any part of their bodies should be seen by a medical professional as soon as possible. Constipation: If you suspect that a hen may be egg-bound, watch her droppings. You should assume there's a problem if they look abnormal or if she fails to produce any at all. Fluffed-up feathers: One of the most common symptoms of illness in birds, fluffed-up feathers can also be a sign that a bird is egg-bound. If you observe your bird sitting with her feathers fluffed up, assess her for any other symptoms or abnormalities. Straining: Egg-bound hens often visibly strain to try and pass their eggs. Egg-binding should be suspected in birds that strain but show no progress in moving their eggsSitting on the cage floor: Most of the time, birds that are egg-bound tend to sit on the cage floor. Eggs that are stuck inside of a hen can put immense pressure on the bird's spine, sometimes causing paralysis and the inability to perch. Drooping of the wings: Canaries might exhibit this symptom. Lameness: This occurs when the egg puts pressure on the nerves going to the legs. Loss of appetite: This is a common symptom of several illnesses, but if you notice your bird is not eating, assess it for other signs of egg-binding. https://www.thesprucepets.com/signs-of-egg-binding-in-birds-390494 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shannon Burton Posted May 23, 2018 Author Share Posted May 23, 2018 Thank you everyone! I have her at the emergency vet now. I will keep you updated.. my heart is broken right now I’m so worried about my Yollie! 😢 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayd Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 PLEASE keep us informed..Our prayers are with you... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shannon Burton Posted May 23, 2018 Author Share Posted May 23, 2018 Just made it home from the vet.. my baby has PDD and high kidney levels. They are giving her fluids and meds. I will know more in the next 24-48 hours.. thank you all for your advice! ❤️ 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayd Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 I'm so sorry.....please get a second opinion if you can, PLEASE keep us informed. Our prayers are with you. https://www.beautyofbirds.com/pdd.html 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayd Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 Question, is your vet a Certified Avian Vet? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shannon Burton Posted May 23, 2018 Author Share Posted May 23, 2018 Yes! Best in the state of OHIO!! And she had another Avian Vet on her staff and she evaluated her as well completely. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayd Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 Jeannine Miesle M.A., M. Ed. (Excerpt ... https://www.beautyofbirds.com/pdd.html ) The Avian Bornavirus (ABV) is an enveloped, negative-stranded, RNA-virus genome. Avian l Ganglioneuritis (PDD) is a fatal, inflammatory wasting disease affecting mostly birds in the psittacine family (Order Psittaciformes). 1 It is a disorder in which "inflammation of the central, peripheral, and autonomic nervous systems is associated with gastrointestinal (GI) dysfunction and neurologic signs." 2 In clinical terms, Avian Bornaviral Ganglioneuritis is "a lymphocytic-plasmacytic gangioneuritis of the nerve plexi of the crop, proventriculus, ventriculus, and duodenum. " 23,2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayd Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 Dave007's post on PPD... Please don't click the heart, the credit is Dave's ... Posted April 30, 2009 PROVENTRICULAR DILATATION SYNDROME General Information First recognized in the early 1970’s, proventricular dilation was originally called “Macaw Wasting Diseaseâ€, as the disease caused a gradual wasting of macaws. Since that time, the disease has affected many species of pet birds. What is proventricular dilatation syndrome? Proventricular dilatation syndrome is a condition affecting the nerves supplying the gastrointestinal tract of birds, mainly the proventriculus or true stomach. Nerves supplying other organs may also be affected, and in some cases an encephalitis (inflammation of the brain) may also occur. What causes the condition? It has recently been confirmed that a virus causes this condition. Microscopically, the affected nerves are inflamed with an infiltration of certain types of white blood cells. What are the signs of birds affected with proventricular dilatation syndrome? The old name, “Macaw Wasting Diseaseâ€, aptly describes affected birds. Birds have a lack of appetite, show regurgitation, may pass undigested seeds in their feces, and exhibit weight loss. Neurologic signs such as seizures or tremors may also occur. No one sign is definitive for the condition; however, proventricular dilatation should be suspected in birds with chronic unexplained regurgitation, weight loss, and any time undigested foods are seen in the droppings. How is the condition diagnosed? Clinical signs may suggest proventricular dilatation syndrome. Radiographs (X-rays), including a barium series may also strongly suggest the condition. The only definitive way to diagnose proventricular dilation syndrome is with a biopsy of the proventriculus, although a biopsy of the crop (grinding part of the stomach), which is easier to perform, is accurate most of the time. A serum test is under development. How do birds acquire the condition? Because we don’t know the exact cause, it’s unknown how the condition is spread. Not all birds that are exposed to an infected bird will develop the condition, although the condition can spread throughout a flock of birds. To be safe, birds diagnosed with proventricular dilatation syndrome should be isolated from healthy birds. Can the disease be treated? Finally, there is a medication that is showing some promise in treating PDD, if it is detected in the early stages. If left untreated, PDD is always fatal.<br><br>Post edited by: Dave007, at: 2009/04/30 18:05 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shannon Burton Posted May 24, 2018 Author Share Posted May 24, 2018 My best friend has been taken from me.. my life has been broken to pieces!! Yollie has gone to a better place. Thank you all for your support, her body didn’t respond to the meds and she passed away about an hour ago. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayd Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 Our prayers be with you.. You gave her love. Amen.. Rev Jayd... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timbersmom Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 I am so sorry for your loss. Wish I could give you a big hug right now! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
judygram Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 Shannon I am so sorry you lost your best friend but take heart that you did the best you could for her and she knew she was loved. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greywings Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 I came to her story late but know how painful your loss is. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acappella Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 So sorry you lost your baby. She knew she was loved and cared for, and you did all that you could for her. Please know that we here are thinking about you. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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